Now, some people might say this is crap, but I think it is an example of good idea, bad execution. Sure, a 7/7 Baneslayer for 7 is fun, but waiting till turn 7 (If your not running acceleration) is not fun. Thi is a card that I wouldn't pick first in a draft, but I wouldn't mind playing if there was nothing else.
But... ultimately... I just want to target Birds of Paradise with this and giggle.
Gavrilo
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It's good card, but high-cost creatures need to be ******* ****** ****** ******* great to be playable in standard, just good won't do. And he's rarity makes him odd guest in limited.
Yozuk
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Of course no one said anything about bloodshot trainee. It sucks and would use this card to its full potential. now if you said Spikeshot Goblin instead, that would be a different story. Because a creature with R tap: deal 7 damage is rather nasty.
Daikoru
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Phytohydra or Sprouting Phytohydra to scare your opponent from blocking them. You could also copy your opponent's overpowered creatures. Or maybe copy any of those Graft creatures for additionnal power!
catowner
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
anything with doublestrike, infect, or the ability to do something based on its power makes this guy awesome
Cheza
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Great in limited... wins a lot of games.
Troutz
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(1 vote)
I don't think this had to be Mythic. Great card, flavorful, lots of fun, but basically unplayable in constructed and overall pretty underwhelming in terms of power. Anything worth copying is usually already big enough where this ends up just being +2/+2 or something.
penatbater
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(3 votes)
I saw in mtgsalvation that when this card comes into play, he can immediately copy any creature on the battlefield, and that includes the creature's CMC. Is this true? i.e. I can put him down for 0 if i have a creature with 0 CMC on my field?
Dolmir
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
What happens when you copy a Mutavault with this? Do you get a non-creature 7/7 land or do you get a 7/7 creature land?
As for rules questions: Enters the Battlefield abilities DO trigger. It enters the battlefield as a copy of that creature, so it looks exactly like an instance of that creature entering the battlefield. Look at Clone's rulings, as this behaves pretty much exactly the same.
If you copy an animated mutavault, you get an unanimated mutavault. It has no power and no toughness. When you activate this mutavault's ability, it's still only a 2/2. In this instance, it behaves exactly like Clone.
TheKeiser
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Eldrazi spawn. Then sac him for 1 colorless. I think Blight Mamba gets the award for best copy in the set in a limited setting. Clone Shell is also pretty hilarious. Paying 2 more blue mana for +5/+5.
Nagoragama
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
What happens if I activate Gideon Jura's ability to turn into a creature and then play the Gargantuan targeting Gideon? Is my Gargantuan just a 7/7 that has all damage prevented to it, or is it a planeswalker?
Rainyday2012
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
At the prerelease, I was staring down a Liege of the Tangle and could cast this guy. Too bad he'd only be 7/7. Granted, most of the time he was bigger than what he copied, but still ... that was annoying.
Bowshewicz
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0)(5 votes)
My guesses on rules questions (and I could be wrong, so confirmation from other players would be appreciated):
Quicksilver Gargantuan is copying all characteristics of another card, but it does not copy power or toughness. If you brought him in as a copy of Gideon Jura, I believe you would have a new Gideon, which would cause them both to be sent to the graveyard (Planeswalker uniqueness rule). If you were to somehow activate the copied GIdeon's +0 ability, he'd become a 6/6 as normal.
Levelers are a bit more tricky. Their P/T is determined by a static ability. Let's look at Knight of Cliffhaven. At first, you would have a 7/7 Kor Knight with level up and the following static abilities: “As long as Knight of Cliffhaven has at least 1 level counter on it, but no more than 3 level counters on it, it’s 2/3 and has flying.” “As long as Knight of Cliffhaven has 4 or more level counters on it, it’s 4/4 and has flying and vigilance.” Once you level up the Knight, one of those static abilities will overwrite the P/T of your copied creature.
Hope that clears some things up.
Snafinturtle
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I LOVE the fact that the ability doesn't have "target" in its text, which means shroud is no shield against him >:) (take THAT Uril!), I believe that's one of the other reasons it's mythic as opposed to just rare.
Japicx
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Copying Aura Gnarlid seems like a way to put this card to good use. The Gnarlid is pretty good as it is, but starting as a 7/7 (thereby being unblockable to any creature with 6 or less power -- a way to get around Doran shenanigans) is wonderful.
Could you see someone copying Ali from Cairo with this? Suddenly, Ali seems like an inferior Platinum Imperion rather than an unplayable card that looks like it stumbled into the wrong colour.
It could be fun to copy a Fauna Shaman or Elvish Piper. But then, if you have seven mana free to play a creature, why do you need a Piper?
This card could have had more of a purpose -- serving as a double for valuable creatures that otherwise are susceptible to easy removal because of their small bodies-- but the insistence on making it so gargantuan and therefore cost-heavy makes its playability severely limited. It could've been satisfactory as a 4/4 so that it just gets out of the all-important Bolt range while preserving the original creature's abilities.
tcollins
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I think it'd work best in an infect deck, copying a Plague Stinger would be awesome. 7/7 infect creature with evasion, yes please!
in rockslide elemental because who doesn't want a 7/7 first strike that gets bigger whenever it kills something?
rinoh20
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
with the name changes of shape shifters, couldn't this copy myr propaggator? i would love 7/7s for 3 cmc.
coyotemoon722
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I feel like this card would rule in a ramp/clone deck. You just clone all of the other guy's creatures but make them bigger. I may have to scoop up a playlist of these for fun.
Lionheart5582
★★★☆☆ (3.7/5.0)(3 votes)
Don't know if anyone else said it but have him come in as a copy of murderous redcap for a cool 7 damage to the face, then persist him back in as redcap again or another creature.
Thaxan_Number_14
★★★★☆ (4.6/5.0)(10 votes)
-Mana cost
-Power
-Toughness
-Power (text box)
-Toughness (text box)
-Lines in text box
-QUICK-SIL-VER GAR-GAN-TU-AN
Oh look seven 7's. :3
scumbling1
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It's a fun casual / EDH card. It's amusing when you can use this to copy something like Akroma, Angel of Wrath or Sphinx of the Steel Wind, where you get a slightly larger version of the Sphinx for a slightly reduced price. But the real purpose is to add abilities to a body that's larger than what was intended for them. Spikeshot Elder would be a great target to copy.
@ Bowshewicz: you are correct on each ruling.
TPmanW
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It beats Titans! It kills legends! It turns into a planeswalker (with help from Gideon)! What does happen if it copies gideon though? If Gideon technically retains his planeswalker abilities (and loyalty) as a creature then it would follow that 'ol Quicksilver can copy Gideon to enter as a 7/7 creature with a suite of walker abilities (the wording on Gideon would keep the damage prevention clause from working though). The only rules issue I see is whether Quicksilver would become a permanent planeswalker capable of using walker abilities. Any help?
Edit- Oh yeah, and what about the multiple planeswalkers with the same name rule? Would it apply to this guy?
They should just make Quicksilver Gargantuan card of the day or something and explain it all to us.
You guys are thinking too small. Copy a creature with double-strike and trample.
Halaphax
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I personally use this to copy Protean Hydra anyway in my graft deck. Just move some +1/+1 counters onto him and watch it grow bigger and be unable to be killed by damage. Since it now has +1/+1 counters it can be regenerated with Sporeback Troll in case of a Go for the Throat or Doom Blade.
I guess what I am asking is this, is it possible to use the myr's infinite mana loop to spam a bunch of 7/7 Myr Propagators?
Ava_Adore
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I like my Cytospawn Shambler and Arcbound Overseer to be a 13/13
ajpinton
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Dose he target? I know he dose not say "target creature", by his wording I think he can hit something with shroud like Neurok Commando. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I consider that a win, hello 7/7 Kraken Hatchling?
Aaron_Forsythe
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0)(24 votes)
Aaron’s Random Card Comment of the Day #76, 4/18/11
I love this card. It’s unique, it’s fun, and it combines niftily with quite a few cards in the Scars of Mirrodin set, from Plague Stinger to Spikeshot Elder to Myr Propagator.
There is a bunch of design space yet to mine with regards to Clones that copy some or most of something in play but not all. (Yesterday’s Arcana shows a card from New Phyrexia--Phyrexian Metamorph--that also kind of does this.)
There were problems getting this guy printed involving the rules. The question I kept asking was, “What happens when I copy the card Tarmogoyf with this thing?” ’Goyf has a “*/*+1” power and toughness, with the stars defined in its textbox. So when you copy it with the Gargantuan, the *’s becomes 7s, but the creature would still have the line of rules text “Tarmogoyf's power is equal to the number of card types among cards in all graveyards and its toughness is equal to that number plus 1. ” So what would its power be, 7 or the number of card types in graveyards?
Our solution was to simply ask people what they thought the answer would be, and tweak the rules to reflect intuition. Most people thought the answer was seven, and to make that true we had to tweak the interaction between this card and “characteristic-defining abilities.”
Rules Manager Matt Tabak had this to say: “Previously, the copy effect of Quicksilver Gargantuan setting it to 7/7 would have been overwritten by Tarmogoyf’s own CDA. End result was exactly a copy of Tarmogoyf. Now, that CDA isn’t copied, so you get a 7/7, as advertised.”
Here’s the new rule:
706.8d When applying a copy effect that doesn’t copy a certain characteristic, retains an original value for a certain characteristic, or modifies the final value of a certain characteristic, any characteristic-defining ability (see rule 604.3) of the object being copied that defines that characteristic is not copied.
For completeness, here’s the rules defining “characteristic-defining abilities”:
604.3. Some static abilities are characteristic-defining abilities. A characteristic-defining ability conveys information about an object's characteristics that would normally be found elsewhere on that object (such as in its mana cost, type line, or power/toughness box). Characteristic-defining abilities function in all zones. They also function outside the game.
604.3a A static ability is a characteristic-defining ability if it meets the following criteria: (1) It defines an object's colors, subtypes, power, or toughness; (2) it is printed on the card it affects, it was granted to the token it affects by the effect that created the token, or it was acquired by the object it affects as the result of a copy effect or text-changing effect; (3) it does not directly affect the characteristics of any other objects; (4) it is not an ability that an object grants to itself; and (5) it does not set the values of such characteristics only if certain conditions are met.
Deadreject
★★★☆☆ (3.7/5.0)(3 votes)
How about Mirror-Sigil Sergeant? Always fun.
SeiberTross
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I love blue decks that keep a champion like this floating around. Yeah it goes against focus, but if your friend dropped that Baneslayer Angel, or maybe has that annoying Silkbind Faerie out and hasn't managed to actually finish you off yet. This is just a crazy game swing.
Dr.Pingas
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Quick question; based on wording, would Torpor Orb stop this effect(and similarly, mimeoplasms)? I only ask, because both abilities seem to be worded in such a way as to make them not triggered abilities.
humor_love
★☆☆☆☆ (1.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Holy Cow!!
Now I could clone a Clone! Or have 5 Storm Crows in my deck! I could even use it to copy Wall of Air, or Wall of Stone! Do you think it would work on Knight of Stromgald, or Elvish Archers?! I CAN'T TELL!!
Oh my gosh! The possibilities of what this card can do are at least as many as there are creatures in Magic!!! %O Can you imagine?! I could even come up with a limited trick for this one!
Let's see if we can get 5 MORE comments pages on here!! %- D
willpell
★★★☆☆ (3.7/5.0)(3 votes)
For Myr Propagator I'd much rather use the reasonably priced Phyrexian Metamorph and have some possibility of the combo actually happening someday. But yes, this guy plus a Spikeshot goblin (either version) is a good time.
I have a question about the rulings on this card and would love some comments and inputs.
If I have my Quicksilver Gargantuan enter the battlefield as a creature, but "before" it gets to enter another player kills the creature I wanted to copy. What would happend then? Would either, Quicksilver Gargantuan cannot copy anything and is then only a 7/7 creature, or! Since he did get to enter the battlefield it doesn't matter if the creature is removed or not, he still will be able to copy that creature?
If it is so that he cannot copy it, what would then happend if there are two identical creature cards on the battlefield that I chose to copy. I mean, after all. It doesn't say "target creature"
I've been wondering about this for a while, and I would like to settle once and for all how this is resolved.
Ok, just the list for standard is ridiculously good! Too lazy now to think of just how much more amazing this thing is in Modern and Legacy!
Other things to think about:
The usual "Kill a legendary creature" usage. Inkmoth Nexus will just be a non-animated one that will turn into a 1/1 if you animate it--not a good use of ! It's not as silly as it seems with titans! It curves up perfectly from them! Ditto for Wurmcoil Copying the "moon" face of your werewolves might be worth experimenting with since this wouldn't be able to transform back. But for the most part, I don't consider werewolves especially playable and it's hard to justify playing blue in them.
OK, just one thought about Modern: I WISHED this worked the way a n00b might guess with Bloodbraid Elf, but it doesn't. Just imagine how evil cascading for any spell 6 cmc or less would be! Zoinks.
There, I'll shut up now. Is it obvious that I LOVE this card?
Step 1: Have Murderous Redcap, any undying creature, and a free sac outlet on the field.
Step 2: Play this guy
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Profit
(Probably better with something like phantasmal image or something like that, as this combo doesn't really require the 7/7ness inherent to the gargantuan)
Tiggurix
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Yes, I always thought Storm Crow should be a 7/7 myself, in fact.
Joking aside, this seems like Kjeldoran Skyknight's and Kjeldoran Skycaptain's ultimate BFF. Why yes, I would like Banding, First Strike and Flying on 7/7 gargantuan!
CapnShapiro
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0)(2 votes)
@Aroel:
Yes. If you copy a vanilla (ability-less) creature, the Quicksilver Gargantuan is just an Enormous Baloth and would gain the benefit of Muraganda Petroglyphs. Some clones would not be, such as Cemetery Puca because it says "this card becomes a copy of ... and gains this ability.
Have fun bashing with your undercosted 9/9!
DukeofDellot
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Alright... Retarded question:
Could I build a Undying/Persist deck with Quicksilver Gargantuan... then copy an Undying dude so that when he dies and comes back he copies a dude with Persist so that when he dies he'll come back and copy a dude with Undying so that then he'll die...
And he's like an 8/8 half the time... that's pretty cool, right?
...
Also, I like to say Quicksilver Gargantuan... it's fun to say... but I tend to mess it up and call him Quicksliver Gargantuan... because lately when I play him, he's copying Might Sliver or Brood Sliver or if I'm feeling cheeky Harmonic Sliver...
...
Okay, I'm really bad at combos...
Goatllama
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Ohhh, the Gargantuan is copying the guy on the bridge. The art is more impressive now that I've realized this. Very nice illustration of the card's ability.
Something like Archon of the Triumvirate or hell, even a Soulsworn Spirit or Phantom Warrior, unblockable 7/7 is just mean.
gman92
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This is an interesting card. Obviously the best things to copy with this would be low CMC creatures with lots of abilities. I thought of Elite Inquisitor first but I'm sure there are better ones. Also, in response to a combo with Strangleroot that Paleopaladin asked for, I'd say a sac outlet + an Undying creature + a Persist creature for infinite whatever the sac outlet does. But it doesn't matter because this is accomplished better with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and a Persist creature, and you just want to win with such an expensive Clone rather than set up combos.
I love this, especially in a deck where you can get around hard-casting it. Unless there are literally no other creatures in play, it's almost guaranteed to be useful.
LordRandomness
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
There must be some incredible target for this thing...Chronozoa was a good one, upgrading to 7/7 is-
Spikeshot Elder. OUCH. Untap after that and you're looking at 14 direct damage given the probable mana situation. Gemini Engine isn't bad and curves nicely into this, (you'll want acceleration though, so blue/green is a thought), but the big winner is anything that comes into play with +1/+1 counters and is therefore a 0/0 to start with. Would be handy in Graft, therefore...Cytospawn Shambler. Fun times. Murderous Redcap isn't bad either.
Point is, if it copies something that gets most of its power from somewhere other than its P/T (and as boosts, not effects like Lhurgoyf) then this copies them and piles on another 7/7. Effects like Bloodthirst can be copied for similar result.
Another thing to consider is Sunburst: if you pay multiple colors for it, it'll get the effect as it comes in. Most Sunburst creatures just get bigger or you remove the counters to do something unrelated, but I just noticed Lunar Avenger...
Another great one for {U}/{G} is Phantom Nantuko. Phantoms in general, but the Nantuko is cheap to cast and comes with trample and the tap ability if you really have nothing else to do. Phantom Nishoba is also powerful for obvious reasons, but more expensive and off-color.
In fact, {U}/{G} +1/+1 (So, Simic) is really starting to look like the place for this guy. Protean Hydra copy gives you a 7/7 with damage immunity, although Darksteel Myr is probably a simpler option. Sprouting Phytohydra is just friggin' scary, especially if you have some way to ping it and/or Wakestone Gargoyle or some other way to strip defender. Stag Beetle if you just want it to be large. Unbreathing Horde makes it fit very well into {U}/{B} zombie, especially if you're using Deranged Assistant for acceleration. Cinderhaze Wretch keeps your opponent's hand locked for quite some time, although by this stage of the game there might not be much point. It's a good reanimate target as a result of this.
And to cap off my massive rant, using this to copy an opponent's Silverblade Paladin is priceless. (This is the only thing on the list that I've actually done)
dusty10755
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
this card loves (and opponents hate) being made a 7/7 Invisible Stalker
DM3921
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Not the best option against green in every case...but still hilarious if Clone can't cut it and you have the mana.
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Comments (85)
Venser, the Sojourner also has some fun with this guy.
But... ultimately... I just want to target Birds of Paradise with this and giggle.
2. Have Myr Propagator in the graveyard
3. ???
4. Profit
As for rules questions:
Enters the Battlefield abilities DO trigger. It enters the battlefield as a copy of that creature, so it looks exactly like an instance of that creature entering the battlefield. Look at Clone's rulings, as this behaves pretty much exactly the same.
If you copy an animated mutavault, you get an unanimated mutavault. It has no power and no toughness. When you activate this mutavault's ability, it's still only a 2/2. In this instance, it behaves exactly like Clone.
I think Blight Mamba gets the award for best copy in the set in a limited setting.
Clone Shell is also pretty hilarious. Paying 2 more blue mana for +5/+5.
Quicksilver Gargantuan is copying all characteristics of another card, but it does not copy power or toughness.
If you brought him in as a copy of Gideon Jura, I believe you would have a new Gideon, which would cause them both to be sent to the graveyard (Planeswalker uniqueness rule). If you were to somehow activate the copied GIdeon's +0 ability, he'd become a 6/6 as normal.
Levelers are a bit more tricky. Their P/T is determined by a static ability. Let's look at Knight of Cliffhaven.
At first, you would have a 7/7 Kor Knight with level up
“As long as Knight of Cliffhaven has at least 1 level counter on it, but no more than 3 level counters on it, it’s 2/3 and has flying.”
“As long as Knight of Cliffhaven has 4 or more level counters on it, it’s 4/4 and has flying and vigilance.”
Once you level up the Knight, one of those static abilities will overwrite the P/T of your copied creature.
Hope that clears some things up.
Could you see someone copying Ali from Cairo with this? Suddenly, Ali seems like an inferior Platinum Imperion rather than an unplayable card that looks like it stumbled into the wrong colour.
It could be fun to copy a Fauna Shaman or Elvish Piper. But then, if you have seven mana free to play a creature, why do you need a Piper?
This card could have had more of a purpose -- serving as a double for valuable creatures that otherwise are susceptible to easy removal because of their small bodies-- but the insistence on making it so gargantuan and therefore cost-heavy makes its playability severely limited. It could've been satisfactory as a 4/4 so that it just gets out of the all-important Bolt range while preserving the original creature's abilities.
-Power
-Toughness
-Power (text box)
-Toughness (text box)
-Lines in text box
-QUICK-SIL-VER GAR-GAN-TU-AN
Oh look seven 7's. :3
@ Bowshewicz: you are correct on each ruling.
What does happen if it copies gideon though? If Gideon technically retains his planeswalker abilities (and loyalty) as a creature then it would follow that 'ol Quicksilver can copy Gideon to enter as a 7/7 creature with a suite of walker abilities (the wording on Gideon would keep the damage prevention clause from working though).
The only rules issue I see is whether Quicksilver would become a permanent planeswalker capable of using walker abilities.
Any help?
Edit- Oh yeah, and what about the multiple planeswalkers with the same name rule? Would it apply to this guy?
They should just make Quicksilver Gargantuan card of the day or something and explain it all to us.
Copy a creature with double-strike and trample.
I guess what I am asking is this, is it possible to use the myr's infinite mana loop to spam a bunch of 7/7 Myr Propagators?
I consider that a win, hello 7/7 Kraken Hatchling?
I love this card. It’s unique, it’s fun, and it combines niftily with quite a few cards in the Scars of Mirrodin set, from Plague Stinger to Spikeshot Elder to Myr Propagator.
There is a bunch of design space yet to mine with regards to Clones that copy some or most of something in play but not all. (Yesterday’s Arcana shows a card from New Phyrexia--Phyrexian Metamorph--that also kind of does this.)
There were problems getting this guy printed involving the rules. The question I kept asking was, “What happens when I copy the card Tarmogoyf with this thing?” ’Goyf has a “*/*+1” power and toughness, with the stars defined in its textbox. So when you copy it with the Gargantuan, the *’s becomes 7s, but the creature would still have the line of rules text “Tarmogoyf's power is equal to the number of card types among cards in all graveyards and its toughness is equal to that number plus 1. ” So what would its power be, 7 or the number of card types in graveyards?
Our solution was to simply ask people what they thought the answer would be, and tweak the rules to reflect intuition. Most people thought the answer was seven, and to make that true we had to tweak the interaction between this card and “characteristic-defining abilities.”
Rules Manager Matt Tabak had this to say: “Previously, the copy effect of Quicksilver Gargantuan setting it to 7/7 would have been overwritten by Tarmogoyf’s own CDA. End result was exactly a copy of Tarmogoyf. Now, that CDA isn’t copied, so you get a 7/7, as advertised.”
Here’s the new rule:
706.8d When applying a copy effect that doesn’t copy a certain characteristic, retains an original value for a certain characteristic, or modifies the final value of a certain characteristic, any characteristic-defining ability (see rule 604.3) of the object being copied that defines that characteristic is not copied.
For completeness, here’s the rules defining “characteristic-defining abilities”:
604.3. Some static abilities are characteristic-defining abilities. A characteristic-defining ability conveys information about an object's characteristics that would normally be found elsewhere on that object (such as in its mana cost, type line, or power/toughness box). Characteristic-defining abilities function in all zones. They also function outside the game.
604.3a A static ability is a characteristic-defining ability if it meets the following criteria: (1) It defines an object's colors, subtypes, power, or toughness; (2) it is printed on the card it affects, it was granted to the token it affects by the effect that created the token, or it was acquired by the object it affects as the result of a copy effect or text-changing effect; (3) it does not directly affect the characteristics of any other objects; (4) it is not an ability that an object grants to itself; and (5) it does not set the values of such characteristics only if certain conditions are met.
Always fun.
Now I could clone a Clone! Or have 5 Storm Crows in my deck! I could even use it to copy Wall of Air, or Wall of Stone! Do you think it would work on Knight of Stromgald, or Elvish Archers?! I CAN'T TELL!!
Oh my gosh! The possibilities of what this card can do are at least as many as there are creatures in Magic!!! %O Can you imagine?! I could even come up with a limited trick for this one!
Let's see if we can get 5 MORE comments pages on here!! %- D
If I have my Quicksilver Gargantuan enter the battlefield as a creature, but "before" it gets to enter another player kills the creature I wanted to copy. What would happend then?
Would either, Quicksilver Gargantuan cannot copy anything and is then only a 7/7 creature, or!
Since he did get to enter the battlefield it doesn't matter if the creature is removed or not, he still will be able to copy that creature?
If it is so that he cannot copy it, what would then happend if there are two identical creature cards on the battlefield that I chose to copy. I mean, after all. It doesn't say "target creature"
I've been wondering about this for a while, and I would like to settle once and for all how this is resolved.
hey I just made a hexproof 7/7. no, it does not fly, but his friend angel does....
Serra Ascendant
Blighted Agent
Vampire Nighthawk
Invisible Stalker
Mirran Crusader
Flensermite
Spikeshot Elder
Falkennrath Marauders
If you copy a creature with no ability, will Quicksliver Gargantuan then be able to benefit from Muraganda Petroglyphs?
Standard:
Spinebiter :-O
Phyrexian Crusader (duh?)
Gladecover Scout
Tormented Soul
Neurok Commando
Drogskol Captain -- if the one you're copying is yours
Hero of Oxid Ridge -- especially if the one you're copying is yours
Adaptive Automaton/most lords if the one you're copying is yours
Drogskol Reaver (people might just rage quit if they don't have handy removal or if you have the captain out)
Etched Champion (helps make the leap to metalcraft too! This too might cause rage quits!)
Stormblood Berserker
Strangeroot Geist (haste + when it comes back it could copy something else if it had to!!! Hey, someone smart, please think of an infinite combo with this?!?!?!)
Birds of Paradise isn't as silly as it sounds and neither is Plague Myr. Mana dorks can power this out early and all the better that they can give it a decent ability too. I would strongly consider this in a
Champion of Lambholt :-O
Spellskite and any RDW player will now rage quit
Elite Inquisitor
Vault Skirge
Signal Pest
Suddenly, it's much harder for them to get back the stuff that's zapped by a Fiend Hunter or Leonin Relic-Warder
Hover Myr for a giant, less-pretty Archangel
Priests of Norn -- and throw an infiltration lens on it to be mean ;-)
Ok, just the list for standard is ridiculously good! Too lazy now to think of just how much more amazing this thing is in Modern and Legacy!
Other things to think about:
The usual "Kill a legendary creature" usage.
Inkmoth Nexus will just be a non-animated one that will turn into a 1/1 if you animate it--not a good use of
It's not as silly as it seems with titans! It curves up perfectly from them! Ditto for Wurmcoil
Copying the "moon" face of your werewolves might be worth experimenting with since this wouldn't be able to transform back. But for the most part, I don't consider werewolves especially playable and it's hard to justify playing blue in them.
OK, just one thought about Modern: I WISHED this worked the way a n00b might guess with Bloodbraid Elf, but it doesn't. Just imagine how evil cascading for any spell 6 cmc or less would be! Zoinks.
There, I'll shut up now. Is it obvious that I LOVE this card?
Step 2: Play this guy
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Profit
(Probably better with something like phantasmal image or something like that, as this combo doesn't really require the 7/7ness inherent to the gargantuan)
Joking aside, this seems like Kjeldoran Skyknight's and Kjeldoran Skycaptain's ultimate BFF. Why yes, I would like Banding, First Strike and Flying on 7/7 gargantuan!
Yes. If you copy a vanilla (ability-less) creature, the Quicksilver Gargantuan is just an Enormous Baloth and would gain the benefit of Muraganda Petroglyphs. Some clones would not be, such as Cemetery Puca because it says "this card becomes a copy of ... and gains this ability.
Have fun bashing with your undercosted 9/9!
Could I build a Undying/Persist deck with Quicksilver Gargantuan... then copy an Undying dude so that when he dies and comes back he copies a dude with Persist so that when he dies he'll come back and copy a dude with Undying so that then he'll die...
And he's like an 8/8 half the time... that's pretty cool, right?
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Also, I like to say Quicksilver Gargantuan... it's fun to say... but I tend to mess it up and call him Quicksliver Gargantuan... because lately when I play him, he's copying Might Sliver or Brood Sliver or if I'm feeling cheeky Harmonic Sliver...
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Okay, I'm really bad at combos...
Gigantomancer!
Wait a second....
5/5
Storm Crow
Lord of the Unreal + Jace's Phantasm + Mill Cards + THIS GUY. copy Jace's Phantasm and go nuts with a 12/12 Hexproof flying Illusion
Spikeshot Elder. OUCH. Untap after that and you're looking at 14 direct damage given the probable mana situation. Gemini Engine isn't bad and curves nicely into this, (you'll want acceleration though, so blue/green is a thought), but the big winner is anything that comes into play with +1/+1 counters and is therefore a 0/0 to start with. Would be handy in Graft, therefore...Cytospawn Shambler. Fun times. Murderous Redcap isn't bad either.
Point is, if it copies something that gets most of its power from somewhere other than its P/T (and as boosts, not effects like Lhurgoyf) then this copies them and piles on another 7/7. Effects like Bloodthirst can be copied for similar result.
Another thing to consider is Sunburst: if you pay multiple colors for it, it'll get the effect as it comes in. Most Sunburst creatures just get bigger or you remove the counters to do something unrelated, but I just noticed Lunar Avenger...
Another great one for {U}/{G} is Phantom Nantuko. Phantoms in general, but the Nantuko is cheap to cast and comes with trample and the tap ability if you really have nothing else to do. Phantom Nishoba is also powerful for obvious reasons, but more expensive and off-color.
In fact, {U}/{G} +1/+1 (So, Simic) is really starting to look like the place for this guy. Protean Hydra copy gives you a 7/7 with damage immunity, although Darksteel Myr is probably a simpler option. Sprouting Phytohydra is just friggin' scary, especially if you have some way to ping it and/or Wakestone Gargoyle or some other way to strip defender. Stag Beetle if you just want it to be large. Unbreathing Horde makes it fit very well into {U}/{B} zombie, especially if you're using Deranged Assistant for acceleration. Cinderhaze Wretch keeps your opponent's hand locked for quite some time, although by this stage of the game there might not be much point. It's a good reanimate target as a result of this.
And to cap off my massive rant, using this to copy an opponent's Silverblade Paladin is priceless. (This is the only thing on the list that I've actually done)
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