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Cinderhaze Wretch

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Cinderhaze Wretch

Comments (15)

SavageBrain89
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.7/5.0) (7 votes)
Insignificant trash.
Vinifera7
★★★☆☆ (3.7/5.0) (3 votes)
It's horribly costly to summon. I don't know how feasible this card would be even in a combo deck.
holgir
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (6 votes)
Combo with Slagwurm Armor. ;-)
ArgusDundalk
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0) (9 votes)
Trash? Quillspike would STRONGLY disagree...
MDStrawHat
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (2 votes)
@The critics Theres also immaculate magistrate and in an elf deck casting this on the 3rd turn would be no problem. I'd seriously consider it if i wanted discard stuff in a black and green elf deck.
frommerman
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0) (1 vote)
This is excellent in a Nath of the Gilt-Leaf EDH deck.
Mike-C
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Giant growth or 2 makes this able to force an opp into discarding their ENTIRE hand. That's flipping awesome.
Lash_of_Dragonbreath
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (1 vote)
3/2 for 5 with a discard/untap effect is quite underwhelming by itself. Plus, only being able to use it as a sorcery kinda spoils it. But what if it was in a deck built specifically around it? Let's think about that for a moment.
First, look at its creature types. Elemental Shaman. Brighthearth Banneret or Bosk Banneret would make it cost 1 less. It's also a shaman, so we could play it with Thornbite Staff, which also becomes cheaper with Bosk Banneret, so now your opponent discards one card every time a creature dies.
Putting it in a Green/Black Shaman deck is starting to seem more attractive, isn't it? Well, Green/Black is also the color for other combos people have already mentioned above: Quillspike or Giant Growth. A Increasing Savagery would mean your opponent would have to topdeck the rest of the game, too.
And since we've already got Quillspike and this, why not add a Necrotic Ooze
to the mix? Ooze becomes a real threat with these two guys out. And a Shauku, endbringer, maybe? Exile all of your opponent's creatures?
So, adding everything up, it is definetly not good by itself, but let's not forget that many cards that are real crap individually may be pure gold if put in the right deck.
OpenSeasonNoobs
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (1 vote)
With Undying Evil, you can go for a full hand discard. Good target if you get a turn 1 Lake of the Dead turn 2 swamp for turn three discard 5, that's a pretty incredible combo. And anything that they can't play off the top deck you can get rid of as well. Good to add in a Necrotic Ooze deck imo.
JaceIsAwesome
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Yeah, it's not great. The body is small for the cost and the ability is quite meh as your opponent generally has a substantially smaller hand on turn 5 than turn 1. There's some combos with it though.

3/5 for combo potential :D
darkterrorblade
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Use in your Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker EDH to make your opponent discard 3 cards each turn.
BreadandButter
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Pretty sure it isn't sorcery speed. Just has to be on your turn, so you can activate his ability anytime you could play an instant on YOUR turn. In other words, you could combo off before passing priority. They could still cast their kill spell, but you would already have their hand. Fair trade in my opinion.

P.s. necrotic ooze, grim poppet, and cinderhaze wretch = one sided board wipe and hand destruction (give it haste and your golden Thornling)

Edit: I still prefer devoted druid for the combo.
tcollins
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Swing with this guy.... if they let it through and you don't want to deal 3... cast Subdue targetting Cinderhaze Wretch... which will make it a 3/7.... that should let you get rid of an opponent's hand pretty quickly. Also, elemental and shaman are both relevant creature types... though {B} isn't the best colour for either...