Exponential Devour 1 = 1 2 = 4 3 = 9 4 = 16 5 = 25 The mana cost starts out pretty steep already, though so watch out for removal.
Jayquaz
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
Well this will get stupid fast.
ClockworkSwordfish
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(6 votes)
It bears repeating here: Doom Blade. Does not make this guy bad, though. At all. It just means you can't sacrifice things willy nilly, fail to protect him, and fail to give him trample. As far as sheer size goes, this is outrageously cheap. He is going to be arbitrarily large whenever you sacrifice more than a couple things to him.
I nominate Hellions as {/}'s new giant legendary tribe. Even just this guy and Ulasht rule the board together.
RJDroid
★★★★☆ (4.6/5.0)(13 votes)
This card reminds me of my ex:
Expensive, eats everything, and occasionally smacks me in the face for 25 damage. And then the game ends and the deck gets shuffled, and I don't know if I'll ever see it again.
4wolf359
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0)(8 votes)
Bless the Maker and His water. Bless the coming and going of Him. May His passing cleanse the world. May He keep the world for His people.
Trygon_Predator
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(4 votes)
We have Wormsign, Muad'Dib! The most glaring absences on Thromok are Haste and Trample, but it's not as if doesn't have a way to give him those. Now, with that exponential growth and that-enchantment-that-doubles-counters, plus a swarm of tokens to munch on, you can get something huge. Why not add Pandemonium and Fling to the mix?
SocialExperiment
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Saccing just three guys or so is actually a pretty good bargain, seeing as tokens exist to die in the kind of deck that runs Thromok. This is what I like mythic rares to be--huge(ish), flashy, but not completely dominant, since he has no evasion.
RAV0004
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
"The sacrifices... Must flow." "Trample will cover this place! Trample will cover you!" "Tell me of the tokens of your homeland, Thromok." "Removal is the fun killer. I will face my removal I will permit it to flow over me and through me. When it is gone ONLY I WILL REMAIN."
MANABURNWASGOOD
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(7 votes)
So, I spend 5 mana, sacrifice 4 creatures for a 4/4 with no abilities? I don't know, there are other things I'd rather play than him. He can get really big for sure, but I don't see a wow factor the way I do with some of the other new legendaries from Planechase 2012.
JackTheStripper
★★★☆☆ (3.1/5.0)(7 votes)
@MANABURNWASGOOD Actually, you spend five mana, sacrifice four creatures, and get a 16/16 with no further abilities. This guy is the exponential worm.
TreeTrunkMaster
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Crazy! I think you could argue that this card would be too powerful if it had trample or shroud/hexproof at this cost. 10 creatures sacked = 100/100!
Another way to think about the calculation if anyone is getting mixed up (or just doesn't like math): number of creatures sacrificed times that same number So, 8 creatures sacked: 8 X 8 = 64 Also known as squaring the number if you're familiar with that. So take the number of creatures sacrificed and square that number.
SyntheticDreamer
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(8 votes)
"I'll play Thromok the Insatiable and attack you with the power of MATHEMATICS!"
Because apparently creatures are TERRIBLE after Doom Blade was printed. Because you know, we never saw Terror or Dark Banishing before.
This guy is amazing, well priced and frankly, for Green/Red, cannon fodder is available for lunch easilly for this big guy.
orisiti
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
His planar deck is most disappointing. Adding in Grand Ossuary, Goldmeadow, and Immerstrum will be fun though.
Yusuke23
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
With the deck he ships with, it is very, VERY feasible to be able to sacrifice anywhere over 5 creatures. I just played a match where I sacrificed 10 tokens on playing him. Nothing is better than being able to negotiate with a 100/100 beatstick.
Lord_of_Tresserhorn
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(5 votes)
*nitpick*
This is a geometric worm, not an exponential one! The phrase "exponential" seems to be used by many without understanding what it means.
The Devour X means the hellion's size grows geometrically:
1 --> 1² = 1
2 --> 2² = 4
3 --> 3² = 9
4 --> 4² = 16
5 --> 5² = 25
A true exponential worm would grow as e^x, such as:
Also, longs for trampling and hasting...
*/nitpick*
CraftedSteel
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
Add asceticism, and maybe an enchantment or two then watch as a single tear rolls down your opponents cheek before old Thromok devours their hopes. Mmmmmmm hope.
if you run a token/devour deck, this guy will become a god. just watch out for removal.
Rokukel
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This guy is fantastic. Simple yet powerful. While this guy need some sort of protection and evasion it would be overpowered if it already had it in the card, especially with how ridiculously big this guy can be when he enters.
And if you're feeling particularly troll-ish, Rupture. He's become known as "the king of hilariously one-shotting people" in our EDH playgroup.
sincarnation
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
OM NOM NOM
Scorium
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Thunder-Thrash Elder costs less mana, it's bigger or almost equal if you devour 4 or less creatures, only has one colour, it's non-legendary and it's also cheaper. Nevertheless, it has 4 stars and this card has 4,5 stars. I don't understand you.
chrismus
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Step 1: be on the plane Selesnya Loft Gardens Step 2: have a Parallel Lives on the field, as well as at least 3 creatures Step 3: play a Mycoloth, devour 3, get 6 +1/+1s on it Step 4: gain 24 tokens on your next upkeep, play a Requiem Angel Step 5: devour your 24 saprolings with a Thunder-Thrash Elder, get 96 spirits(times 2 for the Parallel lives, times 2 for the plane) Step 5: devour your spirits with this card, have a 9216/9216 creature. Step 6: give it trample and kill everything ever.
This is what my modified planechase deck looks like. I'm pretty happy with it.
(Sidenote: replace Parallel Lives with Doubling Season and you can get Thromok's p/t up to 73000, if my calculations are correct)
Atali
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Though he packs quite a punch, I would not call him General material. More like a Corporal under Ulasht's leadership.
Swiftfoot Boots and the go to town. Rancor helps too and its even the same color.
majinara
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Yesterday I played my first Commander game with this guy. I had an akroma's memorial in play, and sacrificed five creatures for him, so he was 25/25. One opponent had yosej, the morning star as a blocker, so only one more commander damage was missing for the kill. But since he was at 28, he was down to 3 after the attack, so my magmatic force, the only creature I didn't sac, finished him off. The next few turns, the yosei and a frost titan kept Thromok tapped, but once I managed to get rid of the titan, he finished off the other players too.
"The Worm is meant to riot. By his breath he changes man, and then he consumes him. All men. Everywhere. There is no escaping the Worm. When all is done, the Worm will tower over the wasteland he has made... He will call out to the stars that the thing is accomplished. And that, finally, will make the passing of man... Then the three hundred and sixty-nine children of the Ogdru Jahad will wake and come up out of their prisons in the earth and in the sea. Then the Ogdru Jahad will wake. The Seven Who Are One. The Serpent... They will cast off their chains, come out of their prisons, and burn the Earth... Make of it a blackened cinder... And that will be the end."
-Hellboy: Conqueror Worm
All hail the Conqueror Worm!
gman92
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Eat all the creatures you just took with Insurrection in EDH. Then feed him players.
Arachnos
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
Otherwise known as ThrOMNOMNOMNOMNOMok the Insatiable.
Mmmmm, saprolings. Delicious.
EtherBunny41
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(7 votes)
EDH, this as General. Feed the Pack. Let's say you starrt off sacking 5 creatures to make him a 25/25, then break him open at the end of turn for 25 2/2s. Then next turn you pay 7 and sack those 25 for a 625/625. At end of turn, break him again, giving you an army of 625 2/2 wolves. And then on the next turn, if you're feeling particularly dickholish, pay 9 mana for (I shit you not) a 390,625/390,625. And then break him AGAIN if you want to.
Now, this of course implies perfect casting conditions, but seriously, three turns and he's into six digit numbers. One more and he hits the billions. It's kind of ridiculous, but in the most lovely of ways.
surewhynot
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Whenever I look at this card's artwork, I can't help but see one of those Chinese finger traps. Oh, and..."DOOD he gets huge, Doubling Season, EDH, etc." =
Geistmage7
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Against my red/green devour, my buddy likes to run an incredibly annoying naya lifegain deck. He will usually hit triple digit life. Thromok when paired with runes of the deus has allowed me to one shot him.
boochaca
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
had about 5 goblins and a Parallel Lives out, one of the goblins was Krenko... 3 turns later got this guy, devoured 100 gob tokens, 10,000/10,000, put a Mob Mentality on him, next turn game over ;P
Also he appeals so much to my Timmyness, I don't particularly want to use him in a deck, I just want to own him
Fyriaan
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Just play Mycoloth with 10 +1/+1 tokens. Wait a few turns and within those turns play Feed The Pack, Growing Ranks and Death's Presence. Then play Thromok the insatiable. Play an Druid's Deliverance to populate Thromok by sacr those soprolings from Myocloth. Next turn use Feed the Pack on the Thromok so that you can use Death's Presence for extra +1/+1 on the extra Thromoks thanks to Growing Ranks and Feed the Pack.
This card is beautifully, wonderfuly abusable. I like to wait until turn 7 to play it so that I can pop Alpha Authority, giving it hexproof, and the fact that it can then only be blocked by one creature makes it perfect if you can then pop Trample on it next turn (pretty much a guaranteed kill).
I'd like to ask, what's the best way of farming Creatures or Creature tokens to put on this card? Just wondering...
doko239
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I play this guy in a Commander deck with Pandemonium, Warstorm Surge, Electropotence, Bloodshot Cyclops and Fling, along with a bunch of efficient token generators. If you can feed Thrommie 7 or more creatures, any one of the above is an instant killshot vs any non-lifegain deck.
wideyes
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Gotta be one of the most flavorful cards ever. Love the artwork, the idea, and the creature. 5/5
Casting cost is secretly 7 mana because you're gonna want two open for Fling. After a few instances of instantly ganking whoever removed him dead, people will probably stop doing that.
CosmicDragon
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
He looks hungry. Cards like this make me smile. I also love the thought that you could kill him with a flicker effect.
Mirrordin_Pure
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
You'd think something so insatiable wouldn't want to Feed the Pack, but alas...
SirLibraryEater
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
My new life goal, having read the comments here, is to own and play a Thromok EDH deck.
DaLucaray
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
When I first read this I though it said Throbbing... I suspect you can fill in the rest.
carldooley
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
simplest, and most brutal answer to this creature? Spike Cannibal
seahen
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@EtherBunny41 Even better with Doubling Season or Primal Vigor -- the power and toughness get doubled once when the counters become tokens, and again when the tokens are devoured. So if you start by devouring 5 creatures, you get a 50/50 Thromok, then 100 tokens, then a 20,000/20,000 Thromok, then 40,000 tokens, then a 3,200,000,000/3,200,000,000 Thromok.
The formula for Thromok's power and toughness, if he starts by devouring X creatures and is being summoned for the Nth time, is X^2^N. Each Doubling Season or Primal Vigor multiplies it by 2^(2^N - 1).
Still won't grow as fast as the combos that involve cloning Doubling Season or Primal Vigor, which can give you on the order of 2↑↑N tokens.
yousquiddinme
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
IT HUNGERS
FOR MOAR
creepycrawler
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Also known as Hungry Hungry Hellion.
Enelysios
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
A really neat card, but not very good. The only time I have ever seen it win a game is when used as a psuedo-burn-spell by putting out a pandemonium the turn before. That was cool, but every other time he has been cast by one of my friends, he has been killed. This is one instance where the 'dies to removal' argument is actually valid, because you are giving up a lot of card advantage here for a creature without haste.
This guy is so reliant on board position he becomes almost unplayable. You need to have creatures to sac to him (Absolute minimum 3, hopefully at least 5.) A way to protect him or take advantage of him. (Fires of Yavimaya, Pandemonium, Asceticism) and if you want to attack, a way to grant him trample. (Rancor seems thematic) He is cool, but so risky that even my Timmiest of friends are usually content just to have a 100/100 creature and don't anticipate getting much use. I feel bad every time I vapor snag him.
Dragonshoredreamz
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Easy to work with if you know what you're doing. Awesome creature.
Comments (67)
1 = 1
2 = 4
3 = 9
4 = 16
5 = 25
The mana cost starts out pretty steep already, though so watch out for removal.
I nominate Hellions as {
Expensive, eats everything, and occasionally smacks me in the face for 25 damage. And then the game ends and the deck gets shuffled, and I don't know if I'll ever see it again.
The most glaring absences on Thromok are Haste and Trample, but it's not as if
"Trample will cover this place! Trample will cover you!"
"Tell me of the tokens of your homeland, Thromok."
"Removal is the fun killer. I will face my removal I will permit it to flow over me and through me. When it is gone ONLY I WILL REMAIN."
Actually, you spend five mana, sacrifice four creatures, and get a 16/16 with no further abilities. This guy is the exponential worm.
10 creatures sacked = 100/100!
Another way to think about the calculation if anyone is getting mixed up (or just doesn't like math):
number of creatures sacrificed times that same number
So, 8 creatures sacked: 8 X 8 = 64
Also known as squaring the number if you're familiar with that. So take the number of creatures sacrificed and square that number.
Also, obligatory Doubling Season mention, just because.
This guy is amazing, well priced and frankly, for Green/Red, cannon fodder is available for lunch easilly for this big guy.
This is a geometric worm, not an exponential one! The phrase "exponential" seems to be used by many without understanding what it means.
The Devour X means the hellion's size grows geometrically:
1 --> 1² = 1
2 --> 2² = 4
3 --> 3² = 9
4 --> 4² = 16
5 --> 5² = 25
A true exponential worm would grow as e^x, such as:
1 --> e^1 = 3 (rounded up always)
2 --> e^2 = 8
3 --> e^3 = 21
4 --> e^4 = 55
5 --> e^5 = 149
Also, longs for trampling and hasting...
*/nitpick*
INFINITY TIMES INFINITY !!!!!!!!
"one does not simply....."
"OM NOM NOM your argument is invalid!"
While this guy need some sort of protection and evasion it would be overpowered if it already had it in the card, especially with how ridiculously big this guy can be when he enters.
And if you're feeling particularly troll-ish, Rupture. He's become known as "the king of hilariously one-shotting people" in our EDH playgroup.
Step 2: have a Parallel Lives on the field, as well as at least 3 creatures
Step 3: play a Mycoloth, devour 3, get 6 +1/+1s on it
Step 4: gain 24 tokens on your next upkeep, play a Requiem Angel
Step 5: devour your 24 saprolings with a Thunder-Thrash Elder, get 96 spirits(times 2 for the Parallel lives, times 2 for the plane)
Step 5: devour your spirits with this card, have a 9216/9216 creature.
Step 6: give it trample and kill everything ever.
This is what my modified planechase deck looks like. I'm pretty happy with it.
(Sidenote: replace Parallel Lives with Doubling Season and you can get Thromok's p/t up to 73000, if my calculations are correct)
That's fun.
When all is done, the Worm will tower over the wasteland he has made...
He will call out to the stars that the thing is accomplished. And that, finally, will make the passing of man...
Then the three hundred and sixty-nine children of the Ogdru Jahad will wake and come up out of their prisons in the earth and in the sea.
Then the Ogdru Jahad will wake. The Seven Who Are One. The Serpent...
They will cast off their chains, come out of their prisons, and burn the Earth...
Make of it a blackened cinder...
And that will be the end."
-Hellboy: Conqueror Worm
All hail the Conqueror Worm!
Then feed him players.
Mmmmm, saprolings. Delicious.
Now, this of course implies perfect casting conditions, but seriously, three turns and he's into six digit numbers. One more and he hits the billions. It's kind of ridiculous, but in the most lovely of ways.
Thromok the Insatiable
Fungal Behemoth
Death's Presence
And maybe a Mage Slayer or Runes of the Deus for good measure
Now Fling the fungus...
Alternatively just use rancor and lightning greaves, drop him, eat everything, rancor, boots, swing, goodgame
Also he appeals so much to my Timmyness, I don't particularly want to use him in a deck, I just want to own him
Wait a few turns and within those turns play Feed The Pack, Growing Ranks and Death's Presence.
Then play Thromok the insatiable.
Play an Druid's Deliverance to populate Thromok by sacr those soprolings from Myocloth.
Next turn use Feed the Pack on the Thromok so that you can use Death's Presence for extra +1/+1 on the extra Thromoks thanks to Growing Ranks and Feed the Pack.
I'd like to ask, what's the best way of farming Creatures or Creature tokens to put on this card? Just wondering...
The formula for Thromok's power and toughness, if he starts by devouring X creatures and is being summoned for the Nth time, is X^2^N. Each Doubling Season or Primal Vigor multiplies it by 2^(2^N - 1).
Still won't grow as fast as the combos that involve cloning Doubling Season or Primal Vigor, which can give you on the order of 2↑↑N tokens.
FOR MOAR
This guy is so reliant on board position he becomes almost unplayable. You need to have creatures to sac to him (Absolute minimum 3, hopefully at least 5.) A way to protect him or take advantage of him. (Fires of Yavimaya, Pandemonium, Asceticism) and if you want to attack, a way to grant him trample. (Rancor seems thematic) He is cool, but so risky that even my Timmiest of friends are usually content just to have a 100/100 creature and don't anticipate getting much use. I feel bad every time I vapor snag him.
Awesome creature.