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New Wurmcoil in a way...

OK, let's get this out of the way now.

The art resembles a hot dog.

There goes half the comments on this card.

Yeah, sure... "Hot Dog"...

Because Restoration Angel needed more friends.

Again, my sister is sad that they are not white green tokens for her Tolsmir EDH Deck. It's probably so that they die to Ultimate Price, but she will be sad that she can't drop 14 power on the board for six mana with her commander out.

Two strong phallic symbols at a very aggressive cost.

Broodmate Wurm

Dear god, entering from anywhere can trigger its effect, Recurring Nightmare decks and its peers would abuse this to no end. Splinter Twin would love this one too.

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Oh, I'mma Cloudshift the hell outta this.

It is a good thing this is mythic because it is a very good card. I know this because I am a pro. Populate is also looking like a strong ability right about now.

Comes down the turn after Conjurer's Closet, 3 Wurms are better than 2! :)

That's some suggestive artwork. It also looks like a large finger with a silver-painted fingernail.

The card itself looks like loads of fun to play, though, regardless of its impact on the metagame. 10 total trampling power for 6 mana? Sure! Besides the usual flicker strategies mentioned, I also like the fact that the token creation is an ETB effect, so you can reanimate or cheat it into play to your heart's content.

combo's with the unspeakable (you know why)

This. Ohhh this. This is probably my favourite card in the set and honestly this feels exactly what we should be getting from a mythic rare. This thing kicks serious tailfeathers and basically spells out a bad day for anyone without mass removal or a counter ready to stop it from hitting the battlefield. 5/5

Ten Tramply power for 6 measly mana that's also spot-removal proof. I want 8.

6/5

Hello new Broodmate Dragon, good to see you. Shame about the mythic rarity though, casual players will want this.

Power. Creep.

I was browsing Channel Fireball's website and thinking about pre-ordering this card a few days ago. My friend walked up and saw that I was thinking about buying the card.

He said, "Hey, can I borrow that card for my graveyard deck? I feel like it would fit really well..."

I squinted at him, then back at the screen. "Nah, I'm not going to order it. I don't want to put my wurm in your graveyard." I closed the tab on my web browser.

"That's too bad," he sighed. "Elderscale Wurm just didn't fit at all. I guess I'll just have to make it work."

He seemed really upset and I think he has been avoiding me ever since.

Ten trample power for 6 mana, now that is a steal. Like almost all mythics and rares, it's a bomb in limited. In Standard it might be good too. For commander... Maybe in flicker or token decks.

Deserves it's mythic status.
Make sure to put protection when you use it though.

From the Planeswalker's Guide to Ravnica: "The Selesnya are proud of their wurms."

Obligatory link to Parallel Lives. And Restoration Angel, and Cloudshift. GW blink is looking really good.

Safety first, use protection

Oh essentially better than a 10/10 trample for 6 mana?
It's fine; it's a mythic.

Wow. for a long time, the only decent wurm was Trench Wurm. But recently, first Pelakka Wurm, then Wurmcoil Engine and Engulfing Slagwurm, then Massacre Wurm, now this.

@Totema: Mine does not look like that.

Ouch. This card is so going to *** people over. And by that I mean this will wreck in games for all of those with a dirty mind.

The most suggestive art since Promise of Power...

10 trampling power for 6 mana? i think yes

Target your Armada Wurm with Oblivion Ring, and then kill the ring with Sundering Growth?

Yes, no?

Ravnica means Power Creep. It simply does.
Ravnica = Multicolor, and Multicolor = Power Creep. It's built into the game for as long as we have the Core Set idea of the Colors, and as long as we reject the Legends idea of what Multi Color should be.

IF the colors get certain things at certain mana-rates, than double-coloring up gets you just plain better stuff. Wizards could try not printing Dual Lands. At all. But Math says your deck is no fun to play with if you can't cast the spells you want until at least turn 5 because you're waiting for a specific Basic Land.

Let's take a brief look at the History of Magic- forgive me if I miss something very relevant:

New Age Magic: Alara-Innistrad. This is what we will compare cards to for a long time. About at Alara, with the introduction of Mythic Rarity AND the first New Planeswalkers besides the Lorwyn Core, AND an emphasis on Gold in tight, 3-colored combinations when before we usually wanted to play 2 Colors even in Gold decks, the cards are just really really powerful compared to anything before. I'm pretty sure everyone here is aware of what Standard looked like from Zendikar on, because of the massive rise in Magic being popular which wierdly happened right around when Jace, the Mind Sculptor got printed.

Modern Magic: Mirrodin-Lorwyn:
Mirrodin- nothing was both fair and good that I can recall about Mirrodin.
Kamigawa- Wizards was learning the last major lessons about making their own game about here. I don't think we've actually had significantly dissappointing Rares or Bannable commons and uncommons ever since this block. (I'm not counting Ponder or Preordain. They're fine for Standard, and it's mostly *what* they can find in old formats that causes the problem there.)
Ravnica- A Gold Block. Everything that was true about Alara, was true about Ravnica- players could REALLY cast their spells because EVEN if you didn't have Shock Lands, you probably had Signets and Karoos, like how you probably had Shard Lands even if you didn't have Zendikar Fetches.
Time Spiral: I don't know a lot about what Time Spiral looked like, but I do know it was probably the best Block for Vintage players that doesn't have a famous laundry list of Banned Crap. Maybe there's some Banned cards in it, but it's not like it got famous for it's Banned Crap.


Old-School Magic: Urza's Block-Onslaught
Onslaught and Odyssey were fine blocks for balance and playability, including actually probably being fun to draft. (Haven't done it so can't say) But- those are so old that most of their cards today look fairly weak by our standards for creatures. I like the old standard of spells they had, but Wizards doesn't. :/
Anyway, Zombie, Elf, Goblin, and Merfolk decks are probably the easiest and most fun you can build, in large part due to the success of this era, plus simply adding love for them in practically every set since.
Weatherlight Saga- I get the feeling only Vorthoses actually care about any of the cards from the Weatherlight blocks. They're simply too old to look relevant. But it's worthy to note that this was another Golden Age, and that compared to everything that came before, Invasion and such looks ACTUALLY fun and balanced- you can actually play your cards, and your cards actually do neat things that don't lose you friends :)
We are not discussing Urza's Block.

And the rest of the cards that have been made are even more subject to the power-creep factor that we view Odyssey and Onslaught through, or else are simply broken like Urza's Block and Mirrodin Block.
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I may have missed something, but it looks like the only Standard that was fun and great was always preceded by a major Gold Block pumping up what cards are allowed to do for their CMC, resulting in even the mono-colored cards made after needing to be worth playing somehow, resulting in a slow inevitable power creep every time Gold Cards get made.

I would not be surprised if the next Three Blocks: Return to Ravnica, X Block, and Y Block make the Alara-Zendikar-Scars of Mirrodin Blocks look relatively weak by comparison, with the only exceptions being Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker- the only Alara card I think will survive power-creep comparisons, Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Stoneforge Mystic, and the Eldrazi, because if Wizards ever makes THOSE look bad then we are all lost. >.>

But yes I'm saying that things like Vengevine and Sword of Body and Mind are going to seem outdated sometime fairly soon. I don't know how many Swords will get outdated, but at least one or even two of them actually will.

It will be many many years before the Innistrad Mythic Legends look a bit worse for wear, and actually if it happens I think nobody playing today will be able to recognize the game at all.

It's not like Restoration Angel or cards with Populate will be used with this. That would be ridiculous.

This with Restoration Angel creates something so horrifying that I'm not sure I can even describe it here.

2 trample 5/5 for 1 body.
Restoration Angel and Populate mechanic shenanigans allowed. Please include Trostani, Selesnya's Voice and Thragtuskfor an absolutely nuts G/W Midrange.

Oh damn. This with bounces like Conjurer's Closet, Cloudshift, Restoration Angel, Deadeye Navigator and 's other bounces, then 's Parallel Lives... plus the new Populate mechanic is equals to *comment cut due to the commentor being stampeded by Wurms*

ok. i'm going to say it. those looks like peni.

Dear Wizards art department: WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING!!!

Dear Wizards editors: WERE YOU COMPLETELY ASLEEP WHEN YOU OKAY'D THIS ARTWORK?!!!

I can't even think about how good this card is, because everytime I look at it I just think "Dick. Dick. That's a huge dick erupting from the ground. Dickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdickdick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG7LjVCj50Y"

I enjoy that the great grandson of Siege Wurm still carries on the family tradition. That said, Wurm tribal... Please Wizards. Please make a red/green/white legendary wurm lord in the future.

This card is guaranteed to penetrate your opponent's defenses.

@bowlofgumbo (btw nice name): C'mon, Story Circle and the well-endowed Siege Wurm deserve some credit!

Oh no, it's a dong wurm! OH NO! TWO dong wurms!

So THAT'S where she keeps it!
Oh me oh my, looks like there's some downvoting of ***-related comments going on. Just give up, this is a lost battle.

Is good thing this is mythic because it is not very good card. I know this because I am novice. Populate is also like a strong ability now against decks with the strong removal spells with them. In my home land wurms are almost as big as these fun guys and taste very good for the dinner times, if not a little too salty.

a huge d!cl<!!! with a helmet!!!

5/5

Still a better love story than twilight.

Broodmate Wurm

Cloudshift
Conjurer's Closet
Growing Ranks
Cackling Counterpart

So very much fun to be had here.

Thankfully this isn't an inkblot test, because 99% of you would know immediately what you see in the art. I also find it funny that it combos really well with Conjurers Closet... just imagine the worm entering then exiting the closet every turn. Yeah not sexual at all...

This seems really overpowered until you consider that it's a multi colored card that's more color intensive than grave titan, but without making more attackers every time you attack. The titans really were just ridiculous, I'm glad that this is much more balanced than them without being too weak.

Counter it with Deathgrip. Kill the mood. Dysfunctional? Try Explosive Growth and then Overrun. Needs some help to get started then apply a Granite Grip. Some might prefer to put spikes on it, with Riot Spikes.

Awesome card, but... yeah... I can't imagine that the artist finished this, sent it off to Wizards and only then realized wtf he had just drawn. I mean, look at the shape of their helmets, and one's even erupting from the ground like that. You might as well just have the "wurms" shooting white, sticky sap from their mouths at the soldiers.

Know what, maybe we're not seeing the wurms at all. Maybe they're out of frame somewhere or at least one is, and there's actually a pervert giant buried just beneath the ground who attacks travelers with his junk. I don't know, it's just hard to take this card seriously. It's probably gonna start some interesting conversations among players at the game table.

Anyway, cool mythic.

4.5/5

...Now I've got images in my head. Damnit -.-

ATTACK OF THE GIANT DONGS



I wonder if their heads are shiny in the foil version....

This card is a serious powerhouse since it's in the same colors as the populate mechanic. It can easily be even more bodies than it already is.

I love the new trend of mythic rare wurms recently. Between Wurmcoil Engine, Elderscale Wurm, Worldspine Wurm, and this, it makes me excited to see what they have planned for coming sets. Hopefully Wurm tribal will be one day viable?

Also, I feel like the art could have been more fitting and a little less hilarious. But I don't mind it at all.

This looks like a ***.

Looks Like Someone Has Wurm Envy If You Know What I Mean.

The awkward moment when 10 trampling power for six mana is not 5/5 worthy. What the hell do you want? A 10/10 trampler on turn four?

I'd find it beyond entertaining of this card's artist used to work for Disney. It'd certainly explain a lot.

Moderately devastating, to put it mildly - build in card advantage is fun!

Oh, that and they really need to be more careful on artwork for Wurms.

Yeah, yeah, art whatever. This is insane. Two 5/5 tramplers for 6, in a Populate-heavy environment??! G/W Standard with Restoration Angel, Thragtusk, and Trostani, Selesnya's Voice looks pretty horrifying...

this and corpsejack menace.... nuf said..

Combos with Eyes in the Skies

Then you get a Larry Bird, and a Magic Johnson.

Corpsejack Menace and this seem to fit quite well together...

That’s a HUGE.....creature!

It's nice and everything, but the second-market prices are killing me.

@Queegon Do you mind if I ask you how? There are no +1/+1 counters on the wurm or the token

The only way to protect yourself when this attacks is with a Condemn.

Hey, this gets shut down by a simple board wipe. Unlike thragtusk.

My friend, much like a lot of people commenting here, went "lol phallus" when I dropped this. I then said "lol Parallel Lives" and "lol Growing Ranks". He who laughs last laughs best.

The two worms are still underground, "those" are just the first parts to reach the surface!

Finally tonight, I will have enough dicks to complete the Dickship and return to Dick planet.

6 Mana for 10/10 Trample is great, combo with anything that can combo with it (Populate or Blink) and you have the bomb!!!

I didn't actually see this particular card as phallic and I suspect most people are like that...until someone actually tells them, and after that, they can't NOT see it.

But seriously, costly, but balanced. Definitely want to play this in a Bant-ETB theme deck. Too bad that Venser won't be in Standard, but we still have Nephalia Smuggler and Dead Eye Navigator.

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It's an upgraded Siege Wurm from the original Ravnica block.

not sure if this is as good as wurmcoil, but the synergy with restoration angel is huge.

If you don't value any of your friendships, just cast Cackling Counterpart targeting this and proceed to populate. Run Trostani, Selesnya's Voice as well to add insult to injury.

I am at a loss as to how anyone could rate this creature less than a 5. It's instant card advantage when you cast it, and you're opponent is on a 2 turn clock if he can't block it. And most stuff isn't going to kill this, so even if he has removal you get card advantage from it. It's really great.

Great but not broken unless you Cloudshift it (in which case your friends will probably inflict GBH on you). Loses you less friends than Wurmcoil Engine or Thragtusk which have similar effects but are very broken.

This card is terrible in Limited, terrible in Constructed, oh no wait this is Armada Wurm!

I love Selesnya's fetish for strapping unfortunately shaped helmets on everything.

combo with Corpsejack Menace....anyone get it lol?

I think someone in R&D is compensating for something...

I'm finding that The Gatherer is much too full of people who rate cards just because it's popular/expensive.

Look at Bonfire of the Damned: It's rating is about 3.9/5.0 stars. However, it's played in almost every Standard deck now. It's still $25. It's usually a high-pick draft pick.

Now look at Dangerous Wager. It's an instant that discards your hand and draws you two cards. It isn't played in any standard decks. It's about $0.25. I usually see it as a low pick, sometimes as my last pick. It's almost rated 4 stars.

Am I missing something? Is the common aspect what makes people are thinks, "OH YEAH, THIS NEEDS TO BE 5 STARS!" Is the instant speed worth it? OR is there just too many people who don't play standard and think, "I hate how his card is $50! this card needs to be trimmed down a bit...".

Same with this. Is this REALLY a 3.96 rated card? It should be a 4.5 rated card, right? Am I missing something?

I can't decide what's more hilarious... the effect or the art.

At least Deadeye Navigator can't see what he's shipping around...

This doesn't seem like a mythic rare.

WHY IS THIS UNDER THREE DOLLARS???

Where Ancients Tread
10 direct damage and 10 power on the field. Sounds like a plan.

Armada Wurm is like a buddy cop movie: the token isn't white

This card turns me on.

Looks like this card's artist used cards like earthbind too much.

Great card advantage! 5/5

Great creature in itself, but totally underwhelming to see as a mythic rare, coupled with the art which fails to convey any sense of meaningful size. Even Streetbreaker Wurm is more convincing than this.

This card art needs more of what makes Progenitus feel mythic in addition to merely having the orange logo; objects of scale. My fantasy redo of this art is to pull the "camera" way back, to show the massiveness of a Ravnican city-section slowly tumbling down as this creature and its spawn demolish it. Have recognizable guild architecture come crashing to the ground.

One of the only cards I've got that I choose not to play on the basis of 'look' and 'feel' alone.

Two tramplers, eh? Can you say double penetration?

For sure, those two can really destroy your opponent's an- life total! I mean life total!

great to combo with cloudshift for 3 5/5 tramples for 7cmc,
or growing ranks to multiply him lol

Broodmate Dragon was rare and for essentially an equivalent cost and power. It was a good card, but it never broke any formats. The only reason Armada Wurm is Mythic is because populate's on a hundred and one cards in Return to Ravnica, and you can just keep putting more and more wurms into play since even the non selesynian players will pull like 8 populate cards. Having AW be rare would have fucked Sealed players, and Wizards would rather up the price by five dollars and a rarity then give it at the cost it should have been.

If it looks a little phallic then maybe you've spent too much time looking at penises. Or maybe you should go see a doctor.
:/

Shut up about the art. its a great card, i mean 10 trampling power for 6 converted mana

I like Advent of the Wurm better; but who's to stop you from running both? I do wish they had instead just made two tokens; my OCD makes me feel weird about them being "the same" but one being a token. I guess I feel the same about this cards predecessor: Broodmate.

It is surprising it is not more popular in the meta... Just the token could be costed at 6cmc at uncommon. This will make any opponent sigh with disappointment on turn 5 or 6.

such an elaborate pe nis joke, i like it.

If you see one of these, be sure to use a Condemn.

My girlfriend ruined this card for me. I didn't see it until one day she's all like...
"Hey! That looks like a...."
It was over right there.
If this weren't so good to play I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot po...... oh christ, I can't do it.

I'm willing to bet they don't ask Volkan to paint another wurm card.