This thing will be good with Kor Outfitter to attach the equipments and Kor Skyfisher to bounce the Outfitter.
wolfv
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0)(1 vote)
wasn't there another guy that did something similar to this? well in either case i like the card and i have seen many an equipment deck that will love this card.
Gwafa_Hazid
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0)(4 votes)
Instantly reminded me of Stonehewer Giant, only not as big, and only useable once.
Maraxas-of-Keld
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(1 vote)
O_o Epic Weapon smithing.
Mode
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0)(10 votes)
Why is this card rated so low? She is a 1/2 two-drop who has a Steelshaper's Gift cip/etb effect, that makes this card already really powerful - compare her to Elvish Visionary, she's not even just a 1/2 cantrip, she can get your equipment of choice! Tutor cards for two mana are awesome, those which provide a creature at the same time are insane! But that's still not everything, you can even use her as an Elvish Piper for equipents to put an expensive one on the battlefield with her second ability - possibly the one you just put into your hand with her. And still, despite all that she just requires a single white mana - what more could you ask for?
Oh, and you can of course flicker her to get more equipments. Seriously guys, this card has great potential and is certainly worth more than 3 Stars.
MrPink343
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0)(7 votes)
This plus Basilisk Collar is just the kick in the pants Kor equipment decks needed. I WILL make that decktype work, dammit!
AXER
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(17 votes)
Shouldn't be rare. Damn it, better not get this as a rare in one of my boosters!
DlCK
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0)(2 votes)
how about finding your only legendary Unscythe, Killer of Kings in your deck and paying it for instead of ?
makochman
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0)(3 votes)
Rarely do we get a creature with two abilities which complement each other so well. She's great.
Sidek
★☆☆☆☆ (1.8/5.0)(2 votes)
So underrated. The first ability is really, really good. 1W for a 1/2 that gives you card advantage through a TUTOR and can play equipment cards for 1W at instant speed? Just very good.
DonRoyale
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(4 votes)
Uncounterable equipment for 2 = Win. Especially with the supposed rise of control to come in the next few months.
HairlessThoctar
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(1 vote)
This is EXACTLY what an equipment based Kor deck needed to do well. Now Kor decks can actually stand a chance instead of relying on lucky topdecks and having to run far too many equipments just to have a chance to draw them and wasting resources on Armament Master.
spectermonger
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
And so Kaldra was assembled...or somebody just searched for a jitte and won the game ;)
DarthKithkin
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0)(8 votes)
Underrated?!?!? HOWW??? I dont know anyone that hates this card (unless they are playing against it) You dont even need to put her in a Kor deck. So now you have 8 chances of getting a Umezawa's Jitte or Loxodon Warhammer or Basilisk Collar or a Behemoth Sledge
Razmataz24
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(4 votes)
I don't agree with the low rating but like all the winner cards for Kor with exception of the Devout Lightcaster or Kor Firewalker this little nasty usually faces the wrong end of a bolt or deathmark quick. Other than that, it works so well with Kor/Equipment. I would say the best way to protect her if you is to bring out a fast flyer from Kor as a Bolt Magnet. Most decks don't have early flyers and they will eat the bolts reducing the chance of losing her as she drops. Now if you can get a Whispersilk Cloak or Magebane Armor on her fast then you are golden.
Zosk
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(2 votes)
Most "tutors" are banned in the Prismatic format. Currently this card is legal, which makes it a no-brainer, unless those 250+ cards include no equipment.
thornraven
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Ahem! Did someone say "breakout card in standard"?
EvilCleavage
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I want to get at least one of these, she is goooood! Can play any Equip for TAP!?!?
Boday1
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I use this, Kor Outfitter, and Cunning Sparkmage plus my Quiteous Spikes in a red white burn for massive effect.
awesome card! too bad it costs too much and is very hard to get a playset from where im from...
A0602
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(7 votes)
All living weapons now cost two to play. Sweet.
Fanaticmogg
★★☆☆☆ (2.3/5.0)(3 votes)
It's great even without the second ability. Tutor up Sword of Body and Mind or Adventuring Gear and get a creature out of the deal? Great for Boros decks.
land_comment
★★★☆☆ (3.3/5.0)(6 votes)
Living Weapon.
CAN'T FIGHT THE WORLDWAKE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrBarrelRoll
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(6 votes)
Fifty cent rare to $25 monster almost overnight. Thanks, CawBlade.
HuntingDrake
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(9 votes)
No fair, Stoneforge Mystic! You're ruining it for Squire!
God_Of_The_Smurfs
★★★★☆ (4.6/5.0)(9 votes)
Once again, a perfect example of how a card can be ignored in it's own cycle, then re-define standard in the next.
ratchet1215
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Pulled two of these back when I was searching for Jace. My reaction both times? "Awww. Oh well, they'll be fun in EDH."
Or for $50 in trades. You know, that too.
Lohran
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0)(5 votes)
Now even more CRAZY with Batterskull!
Polychromatic
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0)(3 votes)
Ah, yes. Of COURSE we needed another reason for Worldwake packs to be stupendously priced.
Thanks, Wizards!
Enemy_Tricolor
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(5 votes)
I wonder if she's going to search up a banhammer pretty soon here.
Artan
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(9 votes)
It's so awesome to see the first comments on this card complain about getting a cheap, useless rare.
Gabriel422
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(6 votes)
Yup, now showing up in Legacy!
modestmouse_55
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(1 vote)
when ww came out i got a bunch of these and loved them now that there going for so much i think i might sell; a play set or two.
shavr
★★★☆☆ (3.3/5.0)(5 votes)
Caw-Blade (a.k.a. g"go fish") gotcha down? Magic players rejoice!! We are rid of the tutor menace!! Let us build budget home brews again!! :) God Bless Wizards!!!
Kyzar
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(6 votes)
b-b-b-BANNED!!!
SloanMcgee
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(9 votes)
It's officially banned in standard starting July 1st! http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/148
mauro6006
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(15 votes)
She tutored a banhammer.
Evil_Tactics
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0)(6 votes)
BANNED!!! wow...lol. Honestly never expected that to happen in standard. Thanks a lot Batterskull and the swords.
Alex343
★☆☆☆☆ (1.8/5.0)(3 votes)
BANNED!!!
A3Kitsune
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(1 vote)
And the "War of Attrition" Event deck contains two of her...
Falgorn
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(4 votes)
Die {W}{U} equipment-fetching decks, die.
At last, Magic will become again more about innovation and less about well-timed monetary investment.
Even though I liked Stoneforge Mystic as much as I hated Jace the Pocket Sculptor, I'm glad Caw-Blade just got a headshot.
WateryMind
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0)(11 votes)
Oh hey there, centrepiece of the most hated deck in my play circle.
CAW Blade needs to die. Seriously. And this card along with it.
"Hey guys, lets print a card that searches for equipment and lets you play them for 2!" "Sweet, love it!"
few months later...
"Hey guys, I was looking over Scars block, and I noticed that we have a lot of powerful equipments planned. What about that Stoneforge thing we printed in Worldwake?" "nah, forget about it. Players are too silly to remember that piece of crap."
Why, Wizards, why would you make a block with powerful equipment after printing something like this?
/rant
EDIT: Wootwoot. Turns out she was good enough to save WoTC finding the banhammer by doing it herself xD
TheSwarm
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0)(2 votes)
YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAW!!
MirranforLife
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Is it nad IO will still make atrolly,, if less trolly equip deck with Puresteel paladin?
CJM2
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(7 votes)
BAN HAMMER
Rhunic_32
★☆☆☆☆ (1.4/5.0)(15 votes)
wow wizards can go to hell. just because people can't beat caw blade they ban a card. if you keep loosing to caw blade then you suck... i got my mystics when they first came out for some fun with a kor deck. when i got more serious i ran naya with vengevines. after alara rotated out i added the full see set of mystics and swords to the deck list. It beat up on caw blade... honestly rotation was just a few months away. wizards go to helllllllllllllllllllllllll..... there were some decks that beat up on caw blade.... boros, the new RDW, a lot of decks with black ruined UW because of the hand control and vengevine decks did work... anyone ever think that its win % was so high because so many people at major tourney's play the deck?
Jake1991
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(4 votes)
@ Rhunic_32
U Mad, Bro?
They banned Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Stoneforge due to a terrible Standard environment. Whenever cards overdominate, they have to be banned to balance out the game.
Wizards did what they had to do to fix Standard. Sure, rotation is a few months away, but in between now and then, there are still tournaments to be held.
NocteMundi
★★★★☆ (4.6/5.0)(15 votes)
"Caw Blade's been dismantled with it's two main cards banned."
"Not surprised. After all, they do have to keep things.."
*puts on sunglasses*
"..under control."
YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
DamyntheSilver
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0)(3 votes)
I'm honestly not surprised they banned this. They've done worse bans before >>
Revelation666
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0)(3 votes)
Poor Stoneforge Mystic.. It wasn't her fault. It was a perfectly balanced card until them damn swords and that weird germ thing came out.. WotC should probably think ahead a little bit when designing cards.
stille_nacht
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(2 votes)
yummy as a one-card win con is, i can totally see why this is standard banned. its like survival of the fittest, you play it, and youve almost won already.
Myrofkoth
★★☆☆☆ (2.2/5.0)(3 votes)
'bout time it was banned!! too powerful
Joseph_Leito
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0)(3 votes)
I don't have a problem with banning this, but leaving the specific exception for a single exact decklist is annoying.
paintchips
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(3 votes)
I think wotc should re-instate Stoneforge Mystic. I miss playing my Caw-Blade Deck without it.
necava01
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(1 vote)
caw blade is overrated and has seriously been over played, im glad they banned this card so that new deck formats could hopefully rise to the top!
(I'm kind of shocked noone else seems to have thought of that yet, lol.)
But seriously, far more obviously and blatantly broken than Jace, who was merely obviously and blatantly great, but difficult to fully break with the genious way that Wizards has (up til now) executed on making the whole Planeswalker card-type inherently powerful, yet also inherently fair.
Tinkerbelle, on the other hand, should have destroyed Standard right out of the gates. Her story is really a hell of a lot more like old scary cards that we look back and think 'Wizards did WHAT?!' and then we read Tournament Reports from the Era and think 'wait, it took them HOW LONG to stop calling that card crap?' Just shows that for a while there definitely was a completely valid complain of power-creep in the game, from Faeries to Jund to Valakut and that Stoneforge was, at first, 'leveling the playing field.' It almost pains to me to even think that sentence, let alone write it, but we need to be honest- it's still pretty true.
What I find funny is people saying that Caw-Blade is dead when neither the Caw nor the Blade have been banned. Tinkerbelle needed to die so badly, no doubts there because she's a trainwreck on steroids anywhere near anything related to FRIGGIN. MIRRODIN. (most broken plane ever. the only broken part of Dominaria is Tolaria. Mirrodin, the PLANE, is just about completely broken.)
But I think there were two entire better options to ban other other than Stoneforge than Jace. Namely, Caw and Blade. Banning a common, are you serious? Skullclamp was an uncommon, so yes it's fair to at least talk about, whether you agree with me or not. Hopefully the case is much clearer for banning Sword of Feast and Famine. That is the only new Sword that really well and truly lived up to the legacy of the original two. Sick, sick, sick. Not to mention, Jace will naturally leave Standard soon. Waste of a ban IMO. Sword of Feast and Famine may wreck Innistrad as easily as Stoneforge wrecked Mirrodin. Something to think about.
DacenOctavio
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(10 votes)
Modern players -- don't fret at her being banned, just go turn 1 Steelshaper's Gift. You can thank Fifth Dawn for that.
Arachibutyrophobia
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0)(5 votes)
lol, I was drafting worldwake, and i was almost able to draft caw blade, getting a jace, the mind sculptor AND a stoneforge mystic
Salient
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0)(7 votes)
Hopefully it's only a matter of time before this card receives a Legacy ban.
When I go to a tournament with 84 people in it, I guess it's sort of useful to know that 60+ will be playing Stoneforge Mystic combos, but wasn't that exactly why Survival of the Fittest got ban-canned?
EDIT: GAH!! WHY ARE YOU ALL SELLING YOUR PLAYSETS FOR UNDER $5 ON EBAY??? ??? ??? Eight of the top sixteen Legacy decks in the latest SCG Open played four Stoneforge! (That was mid-August! The ink is barely dry on their winnings announcements!)
... do you all know something I don't about Stoneforge's future in Legacy?
Ah heck, whatever. I intend to bid on every Stoneforge auction I can find and afford, until the Legacy hammer comes down or the price revives. Either I get a couple hundred cheap-ish copies of a bum card and arts-n-crafts them into a giant Stoneforged Banhammer artpiece after Mystic receives a legacy ban (in which case I promise to post a link to pics of it), or I recoup massive windfall from the price picking up again.
rinoh20
★☆☆☆☆ (1.8/5.0)(2 votes)
ding dong the witch is banned
Paladin85
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(6 votes)
Why did Wizards not learn that put into play cards should not be so cheap and efficient? See why Elvish Piper and Dragon Arch aren't banned, but Tinker and Aether Vial are
Had it not come with the top ability it would be slightly less ban worthy
JFM2796
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I got this card in a Worldwake fat pack. I didn't realize it saw tournament play. Banned along with the Mind Sculptor. I think Jace deserved his banning from the start but Stonforge was just supposed to be a good card to help out the ill-fated Kor Tribal deck. I don't think wizards printed her with tournament play in mind like they did Jace. I haven't really been following the Scars block though so I wouldn't know.
Combine this with Elbrus, the Binding blade and Invisible Stalker; you can get a 13/13 Flying, trample and intimidate on turn 3 or 4. So cheap, it is ridiculous.
Hivis_of_the_Scale
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
(WARNING SPOILER) Elbrus, the Binding Blade will win
Legendary Artifact - Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/+0. Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, transform Elbrus, the Binding Blade. Equip ////////
Legendary Creature - Demon Flying, trample, intimidate Whenever a player loses the game, put thirteen +1/+1 counters on Withengar Unbound.
// 13/13
WarioMan
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
@buddy2
Dude you're an idiot. Being someone who has some experience using her as well as Elbrus, let me tell you EXACTLY how scary she gets.
It doesn't matter what the hell happens to her after she's been dropped. Tutoring is all she's needed for as she's usually tutoring is a sword that can be dropped the turn after. If I don't think she'll be killed immediately, I'll tutor Batterskull or Elbrus so I can cheat it out next turn. By turn 3, I can drop and equip Elbrus on a Birds of Paradise and hit you for the transformation, or drop a Batterskull and have a 4/4 vigilance lifelink beatstick that, by experience, ALWAYS eats up the removal before Stoneforge Mystic does. She dies? I'm OVERJOYED because I can trigger the EtB again with Sun Titan in a couple turns and tutor more things out.
Wanna kill Elbrus' Transformation? Karakas the creature and re-drop Elbrus and try again. Swords to Plowshares in response to gain 13+ life.
Besides, if she DOES die before she drops an equipment? Puresteel Paladin picks up where she left off until Sun Titan brings her back or Primeval Titan ramps enough to where mana problems are gone.
Seriously, try USING it or FACING it in a competent deck before pulling the cliche'd "Dies To Removal/Crappy Card" argument. There's a reason this thing's banned in modern/Standard (when it was)
gman92
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(2 votes)
On top of being really good, she's really pretty! I like that in a card.
There's something called "removal", maybe you've heard of it? If not, then don't expect to win any games anyway. Seriously, if you don't play Lightning Bolt, Swords to Plowshares, Smother, or Dismember, among many other options, then your deck is either very bad or a combo deck that doesn't care what its opponent does. If your deck is very bad, then YOUR DECK IS VERY BAD. It isn't going to win anyway. If you're playing a combo deck, then you should be much more worried about their Force of Will than their Stoneforge. Let them have a Batterskull, you are just going to hit them for 30 with a Tendrils of Agony or make them draw 60 cards with a Blue Sun's Zenith.
There is a fundamental difference between this and Survival of the Fittest. Survival is a 2 mana ENCHANTMENT (which no one maindecks removal for) that won you the game if you untapped with it. By contrast, Stoneforge Mystic is a 2 mana CREATURE (which everyone should maindeck removal for) that gives you a significant advantage if you untap with it. It is entirely possible to lose the game after untapping with a Stoneforge, and it happens often enough.
There is no reason to have this card banned in Modern, let alone Legacy. Hopefully some more competent people will start working at the DCI so that the deserved unban happens.
PS: There is no way that Elbrus, the Binding Blade is going to see play outside of EDH (and it may not even be playable there). Bone Saw is already terrible, why would I want to pay 7 mana for it?
Edit @ Warioman
I have played extensively with this card. I probably know far more about it than you, judging by the way you write. I really couldn't care less about kitchen table Magic, since it doesn't even begin to compare to tournaments in terms of fun.
Let me be perfectly clear: my perspective when writing is that of the most extreme example of a competitive player. All I want is a deck that has answers and firepower and runs smoothly and consistently (I prefer blue-based control, but I really will take any interactive deck with a strong late game). If you care about "originality" or "creativity" in deck building, then my posts are not for you. Caw Blade Standard was actually a very fun format because the mirror match involved as close to zero luck as you can possibly get. The deck was so consistent that every match came down to who made better plays.
My point was that so many people complain about how powerful this card is without putting even the slightest bit of effort into combating it. You're obviously not talking about competitive play given the cards you named as part of your deck; and that's just more to my point: so-called "casual" decks tend to be very, very bad, and so they aren't worthy of comparison to any tournament deck. This card is absolutely not overpowered in Legacy, because the format has a lot of ways to answer it while still setting your own clock.
PS. It's been about six weeks and Elbrus, the Binding Blade really did see zero play in Legacy. Just wanted to say "I told you so."
Nyan
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(6 votes)
She's just awesome. It's basically like if you were playing a tutor ...and then you get a free creature with elvish piper-like abilities.
Knock, knock! Who's there? Stoneforge Mystic! Stoneforge Mystic who? Stoneforge Mystic into batterskull, Game 2?
immelmann
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(4 votes)
@buddy2
Seriously, have you not played standard in that era besides using caw blade? do you know how ridiculous it was? This card and Jace, the Mind Sculptor warped standard so badly WOTC had no choice but to ban them. Caw blade was too good and too powerful. It had answers to everything and could keep up with any deck. It wasnt uncommon to have 8 out of the 10 top places in any competition to be caw blade or a variant of it, the only other remote contenders were splinter-twin and MBC decks.
Perhaps you are a spike who cares for nothing except winning. IMO you're the kind of people killing standard and making MTG a very unfun and "whoever has more money wins" game.
Wurmcaller
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0)(11 votes)
@Buddy2-
You are the worst player. I hope I never have to face you in a game because I will gladly scoop my terribly constructed nausea inducing casual deck than buy the cards necessary to play a decent game with your steroids enhanced super deck with all the best spike cards.
You say Cawblade was fun for you because it was consistent. That's why it was bad to pretty much anyone who didn't share that opinion. I believe variety in a deck is fun, many share that opinion. I guess the DCI agreed because they banned Stoneforge for it. They didn't ban Stoneforge because it was a difficult card to beat. It was banned because it wasn't enjoyable to beat for most people. Cawblade ruined friendships.
There is nothing wrong with wanting your deck to win. There is also nothing wrong with wanting to play with friends with cards you got from packs or trades rather than buying all the best cards online. You're allowed to enjoy tournaments more than casual play, but it's not objective like you apparently believe it to be. But to come in and say that us dirty peons who want to make original decks are lower than those who can afford to make the optimal decks available is just offensive.
Does anybody ever play with you outside of tournaments? Because I could barely stand your selfish, condescending attitude in that comment and I can't imagine playing a game with you.
I'm not mad. I pity you. You are a sad person.
stricknasty92
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0)(1 vote)
@buddy2
There is a way to use Elbrus, the Binding Blade with Stoneforge Mystic. Once you have it pulled out and on the battlefield, attach it to Stuffy Doll for a 1 cost. Tap Stuffy Doll, now you have a 13/13 with Flying, intimidate, and trample.
Totema
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
So she's banned in Singleton 100, but not EDH.
Huh?
DwightHoward
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
good.
mdakw576
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@ buddy2
a 2-drop that attracts removal is a problem. Plus even if you remove it, it already tutored for an equipment. even tarmogoyf and dark confidant do nothing if you immediately kill them (then again, they do way more than stoneforge the longer they stay alive).
I agree that it's fine in legacy, but it was way too powerful in standard, and unbanning it in modern is questionable; jitte and the 5 swords still exist. steelshaper's gift is a completely playable card in modern, and stoneforge is (almost) strictly better.
Also, wizards was supposed to know that tutors are not supposed to be 2 mana. Demonic tutor is banned for a reason. Look at cards like fabricate, Idyllic tutor, even other conditional tutors like trinket mage, treasure mage, fierce empath, and imperial recruiter. They are ALL 3 mana. And they only put the card in your hand, two of them don't even give you a body, and NONE of them have the ability to save you mana by putting the tutored card directly into play at instant speed.
Seriously, if stoneforge cost 2W and had only the first ability, it would still be a good card.
yousquiddinme
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(8 votes)
I've been having a debate with my friend about the art on this card.
He thinks she's ugly, but I think she's a cutie.
She's a format-warping, ridiculous cutie, but she's still a cutie.
Lueseto
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(5 votes)
Broken card is broken
EdgarPoeAllen
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooly S***. Is there no shortage in awesomeness from Worldwake. Elbrus,Whispersilk Cloak, Darksteel Plate, Argentum Armor, Lightning Greaves, even a simple Swiftfoot Boots make this a beast.
Best target for all the equipments is Wurmcoil Engine
5/5
JimmyNoobPlayer
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@stricknasty92: Unfortunately Elbrus doesn't flip until the creature deals combat damage. Though you could clear a path for your doll with a Day of Judgment, evasive creatures are probably an easier way.
SAUS3
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I like this card because it gives a second tutor for equipment in white for EDH. I don't like it because the second ability makes it broken. It would have been fine if it didn't have it, and it wouldn't have gotten banned from standard (most likely).
TheHoovedOne.
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Argentum Armor
Aquillion
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
Thank goodness they made her 1/2. If she'd been only 1/1, she might have been underpowered!
(Also, strictly better than Squire! Just by a bit.)
SilentOppressor
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Tap: The next equipment spell you cast costs 1W, has flash and can't be countered.
that alone is stupid.
RecurringMemories
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(2 votes)
5/5 - All day, every day. I also love that she's banned in Modern. It means that, unlike 'Goyf and Confidant, I can actually afford a set for my Casual group. :D
MizziumSculptor444
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I unfortunately traded a copy I pulled out of a pack for some supplies for a Merfolk deck...
Genocide_Pete
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
@Aquillion: Actually, if she were a 1/1, she'd be forging a Skullclamp to put onto her own head every game.
Lord_of_Tresserhorn
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It's 2014, and Stoneforge Mystic is stronger than ever in Legacy.
Also, her price is shooting through the roof, she's at 40$ now and probably sill rising. If Salient was patient enough, they're rich now. ;)
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
Increasing the casting cost by would have lead to a much better standard enviorment. This card is just beyond broken. Its a tutor which also threatens making powerful equipment flash, uncounterable, and cheap cost. Its also ping resistant.
They really need to test their cards more. This along with Jace warped the standard environment and led a lot of people away from magic.
Of course nobody got fired for doing such a terrible job at balancing, (even though they probably should have). Hopefully they playtest cards out more in the future, and go beyond there inner circle which obviously is terrible at balancing, or else they wouldnt approve of such a broken card.
blurrymadness
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It'll be a staple for ages to come. That's all there is to say.
Lazrbeams
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
No, steelshapers gift isn't a good replacement, gift doesn't cheat batterskull into play uncounterably at instant speed after a turn. Then block the next turn.
Hunter06
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Hehe, Remember when she was a Bargin Bin Rare...
One of my favorite cards, in one of my favorite decks ever *Stoneblade*, I'm sad shes banned in modern, but I understand why
She was totally the scourge of Standard, far more then big brother JtMS, and has diffidently proven her worth in Legacy, and fringe play in Vintage
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She is a 1/2 two-drop who has a Steelshaper's Gift cip/etb effect, that makes this card already really powerful - compare her to Elvish Visionary, she's not even just a 1/2 cantrip, she can get your equipment of choice! Tutor cards for two mana are awesome, those which provide a creature at the same time are insane!
But that's still not everything, you can even use her as an Elvish Piper for equipents to put an expensive one on the battlefield with her second ability - possibly the one you just put into your hand with her.
And still, despite all that she just requires a single white mana - what more could you ask for?
Aside from Stonehewer Giant, Steelshaper Apprentice got once more overshadowed, this time by a cheaper alternative.
Oh, and you can of course flicker her to get more equipments.
Seriously guys, this card has great potential and is certainly worth more than 3 Stars.
Now Kor decks can actually stand a chance instead of relying on lucky topdecks and having to run far too many equipments just to have a chance to draw them and wasting resources on Armament Master.
Did someone say "breakout card in standard"?
CAN'T FIGHT THE WORLDWAKE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or for $50 in trades. You know, that too.
Thanks, Wizards!
At last, Magic will become again more about innovation and less about well-timed monetary investment.
Even though I liked Stoneforge Mystic as much as I hated Jace the Pocket Sculptor, I'm glad Caw-Blade just got a headshot.
CAW Blade needs to die. Seriously. And this card along with it.
"Hey guys, lets print a card that searches for equipment and lets you play them for 2!"
"Sweet, love it!"
few months later...
"Hey guys, I was looking over Scars block, and I noticed that we have a lot of powerful equipments planned. What about that Stoneforge thing we printed in Worldwake?"
"nah, forget about it. Players are too silly to remember that piece of crap."
Why, Wizards, why would you make a block with powerful equipment after printing something like this?
/rant
EDIT: Wootwoot. Turns out she was good enough to save WoTC finding the banhammer by doing it herself xD
U Mad, Bro?
They banned Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Stoneforge due to a terrible Standard environment. Whenever cards overdominate, they have to be banned to balance out the game.
Wizards did what they had to do to fix Standard. Sure, rotation is a few months away, but in between now and then, there are still tournaments to be held.
"Not surprised. After all, they do have to keep things.."
*puts on sunglasses*
"..under control."
YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
(I'm kind of shocked noone else seems to have thought of that yet, lol.)
But seriously, far more obviously and blatantly broken than Jace, who was merely obviously and blatantly great, but difficult to fully break with the genious way that Wizards has (up til now) executed on making the whole Planeswalker card-type inherently powerful, yet also inherently fair.
Tinkerbelle, on the other hand, should have destroyed Standard right out of the gates. Her story is really a hell of a lot more like old scary cards that we look back and think 'Wizards did WHAT?!' and then we read Tournament Reports from the Era and think 'wait, it took them HOW LONG to stop calling that card crap?' Just shows that for a while there definitely was a completely valid complain of power-creep in the game, from Faeries to Jund to Valakut and that Stoneforge was, at first, 'leveling the playing field.' It almost pains to me to even think that sentence, let alone write it, but we need to be honest- it's still pretty true.
What I find funny is people saying that Caw-Blade is dead when neither the Caw nor the Blade have been banned. Tinkerbelle needed to die so badly, no doubts there because she's a trainwreck on steroids anywhere near anything related to FRIGGIN. MIRRODIN. (most broken plane ever. the only broken part of Dominaria is Tolaria. Mirrodin, the PLANE, is just about completely broken.)
But I think there were two entire better options to ban other other than Stoneforge than Jace. Namely, Caw and Blade. Banning a common, are you serious? Skullclamp was an uncommon, so yes it's fair to at least talk about, whether you agree with me or not. Hopefully the case is much clearer for banning Sword of Feast and Famine. That is the only new Sword that really well and truly lived up to the legacy of the original two. Sick, sick, sick. Not to mention, Jace will naturally leave Standard soon. Waste of a ban IMO. Sword of Feast and Famine may wreck Innistrad as easily as Stoneforge wrecked Mirrodin. Something to think about.
When I go to a tournament with 84 people in it, I guess it's sort of useful to know that 60+ will be playing Stoneforge Mystic combos, but wasn't that exactly why Survival of the Fittest got ban-canned?
EDIT: GAH!! WHY ARE YOU ALL SELLING YOUR PLAYSETS FOR UNDER $5 ON EBAY??? ??? ??? Eight of the top sixteen Legacy decks in the latest SCG Open played four Stoneforge! (That was mid-August! The ink is barely dry on their winnings announcements!)
... do you all know something I don't about Stoneforge's future in Legacy?
Ah heck, whatever. I intend to bid on every Stoneforge auction I can find and afford, until the Legacy hammer comes down or the price revives. Either I get a couple hundred cheap-ish copies of a bum card and arts-n-crafts them into a giant Stoneforged Banhammer artpiece after Mystic receives a legacy ban (in which case I promise to post a link to pics of it), or I recoup massive windfall from the price picking up again.
Had it not come with the top ability it would be slightly less ban worthy
Banned along with the Mind Sculptor. I think Jace deserved his banning from the start but Stonforge was just supposed to be a good card to help out the ill-fated Kor Tribal deck. I don't think wizards printed her with tournament play in mind like they did Jace.
I haven't really been following the Scars block though so I wouldn't know.
Card comments now - "BAN IN VINTAGE IMMEDIATELY"
Stoneforge Mystic
Snapcaster Mage
Dark Confidant
Tarmogoyf
I guess Red doesn't get any great 2-drops. Only 1-drops.
Skullclamp
Umezawa's Jitte
Sword of Fire and Ice
Sword of Light and Shadow
Sword of Body and Mind
Sword of War and Peace
Sword of Feast and Famine
Batterskull
Every other piece of equiptment ever printed
Legendary Artifact - Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/+0.
Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, transform Elbrus, the Binding Blade.
Equip
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Legendary Creature - Demon
Flying, trample, intimidate
Whenever a player loses the game, put thirteen +1/+1 counters on Withengar Unbound.
// 13/13
Dude you're an idiot. Being someone who has some experience using her as well as Elbrus, let me tell you EXACTLY how scary she gets.
It doesn't matter what the hell happens to her after she's been dropped. Tutoring is all she's needed for as she's usually tutoring is a sword that can be dropped the turn after. If I don't think she'll be killed immediately, I'll tutor Batterskull or Elbrus so I can cheat it out next turn. By turn 3, I can drop and equip Elbrus on a Birds of Paradise and hit you for the transformation, or drop a Batterskull and have a 4/4 vigilance lifelink beatstick that, by experience, ALWAYS eats up the removal before Stoneforge Mystic does. She dies? I'm OVERJOYED because I can trigger the EtB again with Sun Titan in a couple turns and tutor more things out.
Wanna kill Elbrus' Transformation? Karakas the creature and re-drop Elbrus and try again. Swords to Plowshares in response to gain 13+ life.
Besides, if she DOES die before she drops an equipment? Puresteel Paladin picks up where she left off until Sun Titan brings her back or Primeval Titan ramps enough to where mana problems are gone.
Seriously, try USING it or FACING it in a competent deck before pulling the cliche'd "Dies To Removal/Crappy Card" argument. There's a reason this thing's banned in modern/Standard (when it was)
I like that in a card.
It's a shame Godtoucher, Windwright Mage, and Quickchange couldn't be as usable.
There's something called "removal", maybe you've heard of it? If not, then don't expect to win any games anyway. Seriously, if you don't play Lightning Bolt, Swords to Plowshares, Smother, or Dismember, among many other options, then your deck is either very bad or a combo deck that doesn't care what its opponent does. If your deck is very bad, then YOUR DECK IS VERY BAD. It isn't going to win anyway. If you're playing a combo deck, then you should be much more worried about their Force of Will than their Stoneforge. Let them have a Batterskull, you are just going to hit them for 30 with a Tendrils of Agony or make them draw 60 cards with a Blue Sun's Zenith.
In addition to removal, there is also Spell Snare, Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek, Daze, Stifle, and Force of Will that prevent it from hitting the table.
And you can also play Ancient Grudge, Pithing Needle, or Krosan Grip (excellent) to deal with the equipment. You can even use Green Sun's Zenith to tutor for a Qasali Pridemage.
There is a fundamental difference between this and Survival of the Fittest. Survival is a 2 mana ENCHANTMENT (which no one maindecks removal for) that won you the game if you untapped with it. By contrast, Stoneforge Mystic is a 2 mana CREATURE (which everyone should maindeck removal for) that gives you a significant advantage if you untap with it. It is entirely possible to lose the game after untapping with a Stoneforge, and it happens often enough.
There is no reason to have this card banned in Modern, let alone Legacy. Hopefully some more competent people will start working at the DCI so that the deserved unban happens.
PS: There is no way that Elbrus, the Binding Blade is going to see play outside of EDH (and it may not even be playable there). Bone Saw is already terrible, why would I want to pay 7 mana for it?
Edit @ Warioman
I have played extensively with this card. I probably know far more about it than you, judging by the way you write. I really couldn't care less about kitchen table Magic, since it doesn't even begin to compare to tournaments in terms of fun.
Let me be perfectly clear: my perspective when writing is that of the most extreme example of a competitive player. All I want is a deck that has answers and firepower and runs smoothly and consistently (I prefer blue-based control, but I really will take any interactive deck with a strong late game). If you care about "originality" or "creativity" in deck building, then my posts are not for you. Caw Blade Standard was actually a very fun format because the mirror match involved as close to zero luck as you can possibly get. The deck was so consistent that every match came down to who made better plays.
My point was that so many people complain about how powerful this card is without putting even the slightest bit of effort into combating it. You're obviously not talking about competitive play given the cards you named as part of your deck; and that's just more to my point: so-called "casual" decks tend to be very, very bad, and so they aren't worthy of comparison to any tournament deck. This card is absolutely not overpowered in Legacy, because the format has a lot of ways to answer it while still setting your own clock.
PS. It's been about six weeks and Elbrus, the Binding Blade really did see zero play in Legacy. Just wanted to say "I told you so."
It's basically like if you were playing a tutor
...and then you get a free creature with elvish piper-like abilities.
Who's there?
Stoneforge Mystic!
Stoneforge Mystic who?
Stoneforge Mystic into batterskull, Game 2?
Seriously, have you not played standard in that era besides using caw blade? do you know how ridiculous it was? This card and Jace, the Mind Sculptor warped standard so badly WOTC had no choice but to ban them. Caw blade was too good and too powerful. It had answers to everything and could keep up with any deck. It wasnt uncommon to have 8 out of the 10 top places in any competition to be caw blade or a variant of it, the only other remote contenders were splinter-twin and MBC decks.
Perhaps you are a spike who cares for nothing except winning. IMO you're the kind of people killing standard and making MTG a very unfun and "whoever has more money wins" game.
You are the worst player. I hope I never have to face you in a game because I will gladly scoop my terribly constructed nausea inducing casual deck than buy the cards necessary to play a decent game with your steroids enhanced super deck with all the best spike cards.
You say Cawblade was fun for you because it was consistent. That's why it was bad to pretty much anyone who didn't share that opinion. I believe variety in a deck is fun, many share that opinion. I guess the DCI agreed because they banned Stoneforge for it. They didn't ban Stoneforge because it was a difficult card to beat. It was banned because it wasn't enjoyable to beat for most people. Cawblade ruined friendships.
There is nothing wrong with wanting your deck to win. There is also nothing wrong with wanting to play with friends with cards you got from packs or trades rather than buying all the best cards online. You're allowed to enjoy tournaments more than casual play, but it's not objective like you apparently believe it to be. But to come in and say that us dirty peons who want to make original decks are lower than those who can afford to make the optimal decks available is just offensive.
Does anybody ever play with you outside of tournaments? Because I could barely stand your selfish, condescending attitude in that comment and I can't imagine playing a game with you.
I'm not mad. I pity you. You are a sad person.
There is a way to use Elbrus, the Binding Blade with Stoneforge Mystic. Once you have it pulled out and on the battlefield, attach it to Stuffy Doll for a 1 cost. Tap Stuffy Doll, now you have a 13/13 with Flying, intimidate, and trample.
Huh?
a 2-drop that attracts removal is a problem. Plus even if you remove it, it already tutored for an equipment. even tarmogoyf and dark confidant do nothing if you immediately kill them (then again, they do way more than stoneforge the longer they stay alive).
I agree that it's fine in legacy, but it was way too powerful in standard, and unbanning it in modern is questionable; jitte and the 5 swords still exist. steelshaper's gift is a completely playable card in modern, and stoneforge is (almost) strictly better.
Also, wizards was supposed to know that tutors are not supposed to be 2 mana. Demonic tutor is banned for a reason. Look at cards like fabricate, Idyllic tutor, even other conditional tutors like trinket mage, treasure mage, fierce empath, and imperial recruiter. They are ALL 3 mana. And they only put the card in your hand, two of them don't even give you a body, and NONE of them have the ability to save you mana by putting the tutored card directly into play at instant speed.
Seriously, if stoneforge cost 2W and had only the first ability, it would still be a good card.
He thinks she's ugly, but I think she's a cutie.
She's a format-warping, ridiculous cutie, but she's still a cutie.
S***. Is there no shortage in awesomeness from Worldwake. Elbrus,Whispersilk Cloak, Darksteel Plate, Argentum Armor, Lightning Greaves, even a simple Swiftfoot Boots make this a beast.
Best target for all the equipments is Wurmcoil Engine
5/5
Argentum Armor
(Also, strictly better than Squire! Just by a bit.)
that alone is stupid.
Also, her price is shooting through the roof, she's at 40$ now and probably sill rising. If Salient was patient enough, they're rich now. ;)
They really need to test their cards more. This along with Jace warped the standard environment and led a lot of people away from magic.
Of course nobody got fired for doing such a terrible job at balancing, (even though they probably should have). Hopefully they playtest cards out more in the future, and go beyond there inner circle which obviously is terrible at balancing, or else they wouldnt approve of such a broken card.
One of my favorite cards, in one of my favorite decks ever *Stoneblade*, I'm sad shes banned in modern, but I understand why
She was totally the scourge of Standard, far more then big brother JtMS, and has diffidently proven her worth in Legacy, and fringe play in Vintage
5/5 Stars