Good card, not awesome but very good... the art is way behind its power though
superstalker75
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Good with Quest for the Holy Relic
SleetFox
★★★☆☆ (3.1/5.0)(8 votes)
Obscene mana investment. It's only really useful if it can be cheated in an equipment-based deck, or in a fairly slow casual playgroup. If you do manage to find a way to put it on a creature, God help your enemies.
Especially if you decide to put it on Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. Along with all three elemental swords. And Worldslayer. Since you'll automatically win when it lands, you might as well take everything with it.
...OK, all that is ridiculously hard to do, massive overkill, and only a terrible deck would have all those cards in it. But big cards like this make me wonder.
ZEvilMustache
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
only managed to play this during games I had already won. Still, it made my horse into a 10/10, and those are the memories that we carry with us.
Luke_BPC
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Won a pre-release game with it, but most of the time it sat dead in my hand...
majinara
★☆☆☆☆ (1.2/5.0)(15 votes)
In the end, it will end up as a junk rare. Without having a combo for it, you pay 12!!! mana for a vindicate. And if you have bad luck, the creature you play it on will just be destroyed, and you can play another 6 mana later to try it with another creature. And if you run out of creatures this is completly worthless anyway. Yes, with a stonehewer giant it's good, but most of the time it will suck. The only place where I will see myself playing this is in slow EDH/Commander decks, where I play with colors that can't deal with certain permanents (ie put it in a black or red deck to have something that can deal with enchantments).
Limited 3/5 Constructed 1/5
Guest1162619373
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(4 votes)
@majinara :: With the number of cards that can cheat this into play and equip it for free, it's very playable in constructed.
Way too expensive... If it was +4/+4 with the same destruction for 4 colourless, that would be way more playable imo.
Gavrilo
★☆☆☆☆ (1.0/5.0)(2 votes)
I probably won't take it as my 1st pick in 1st booster. So we have unique rare equipment in that aspect. No, seriously it costs too much for what it does.
IshubarashI
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I was playing my friend earlier, I top decked this on turn 6, after my 6th land drop. Put it down.
Next turn, I put it on a darksteel myr, my friend was playing a B/R deck and didn't have anyway to deal with it. All I could do was laugh as I blew his lightning greaves up and shouted "YOUR TERMINATES ARE USELESS! BAHAHAHA"
BegleOne
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It's a good top-end finisher in Limited. I was drafted two and put them to pretty good use. In constructed it'll need help to get out, but is good because it's one of the biggest and nastiest equipments in the game; if you have a way to cheat out equipment, there's not much better.
SoulShatterer
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Ratrase, that exact tactic annihilated me in a Constructed Tournament. Only the Duelist also had a Kitesail.
TDL
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the equipment with the highest equip cost in all of Magic, as of the release of Scars of Mirrodin!
SloanMcgee
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
For those of you who don't know, Argentum is the name of the plane Karn created. When he left it to Memnarch to look after, Memnarch went and turned Argentum into Mirrodin.
The_Cheat420
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I think the name and flavor text for this card is enough to earn 5 /5. Going by another name and not mentioning Karn I'd still give it a 3.5/5
ratrase
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
T1: Noble Hierarch
T2: Stoneforge Mystic (tutor the armor) + Kor Duelist
T3: Use Stoneforge Mystic to get the armor into play. Play Kor outfitter and equip armor to Duelist. Atack for 16.
Hey, a man can dream can't he?
eak1801
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
I think this is a pretty good card even if it's not getting cheated into play. Not meant to be traditional support like many equipment. I think this is supposed to be a "closer" in equipment form. Previous equipment of this caliber were unable to provide as much threat by themselves.
Wouldn't be too hard to use with green either. You can even put it on something small like a plant token from Khalni Garden and it would still wreak havoc on your opponent.
Shouldn't be used as a "main artillery" like Armadillo Cloak, Rancor, Sword of Fire and Ice etc... But if it gets to the point where this guy hits play, I'm sure it's gonna make your opponent squirm.
I'm not complaining. It's a very fun card. Not overly expensive for what you're getting either, if they cant deal with this your going to be hosing their most important permanent every turn.
Definitely easier to use in formats with 40 life (2HG, EDH).
Angry_Fire_Hydrant
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
So if you use Quest for the Holy relic to equip this to your unblocked attacking creature, does the destroy effect happen?
JB_Xyooj
★★☆☆☆ (2.3/5.0)(3 votes)
Did anyone ever thought of using this with Darksteel Creatures?
count_dorku
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It's going to get nasty in MBS.
Brass Squire is a Myr that can be tapped for instant speed, free equipping.
Cast a large hasty creature like Flameborn Hellion, tap Brass Squire to chuck it Argentum Armour, swing with an 11/10 and a vindicate...
EpicBroccoli
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
You will almost never play this card for it's cost.
El_Feed
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
What about fitting this in with the cute little Brass Squire? Bypass the 6 equip cost?
ninjaman98
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
You need this with something like Kor Outfitter
SamboSkull
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I'm running this with Urzatron, almost always end up getting this on BS Colossus early on, practically instant win as soon as it happens.
Duskdale_Wurm
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The Terminator armor.
Pontiac
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
Elves love to dress up.
tachiKC
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Puresteel Paladin from New Phyrexia is going to make cards like this and Ogre's Cleaver really, REALLY good.
It is unfortunate this card costs so much more than any other of the Swords in the block format. While this is a powerful bomb in Limited, it cost makes it prohibitive in constructed. In a Control Deck, if this gets out, the deck is probably already is in a winning position. In an Aggro deck, the game is already won before you can even cast this. This effectively regulates a rather descent card into nitch decks after the removal of Stoneforge Mystic later in the Standard 2011 season.
It's still a very good card, though, and decks that can get past the mana curve issue are bound to find it a useful card to supplement a removal strategy.
BlackKWYte
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Cheesy Cakes
BenD
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
I am sideboarding this card for an Infect deck. Would be nice to have some of my Plague Myrs out for ease to cast this card. On a Viral Drake or Priests of Norn would be very defensive. Perhaps attach it to a Blighted Agent if BA was not already burned or destroyed or exiled or countered early in the match.
mattblack04
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
It's expensive because if it was cheaper it would be massively overpowered. The real reason to get it is the "destroy target permanent" effect when you attack. Read it. Do you see it say "nonland" anywhere? No? So you can destroy their land if none of their other things are a threat? Yes sir, yes sir you can. How about nasty enchantments that shut down a card, like Arrest or Pacifism? Yup, those too. The +6/6 can be made up elsewhere. Nobody plays this primarily because it's a +6/6. If they took that part out, or even halved it to +3/3, it would be great. It's reusable permanent destruction. It becomes the sole target of your opponent, a card they have to take care of or else they need to scoop.
It's easy to cheat in, and with a Puresteel Paladin potentially free to equip. The hard casting and equipping cost is to prevent it from becoming an easily splashable win card in every deck.
shotoku64
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Build your own titan
1maketoilets
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Argentum is latin for silver.
Opined_Fluke
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Costed just right for an equipment finisher - if this thing comes online it's so hard to beat.
Zacklar
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Silver Armor expensive, yeah, but once you get it going its quite powerful better cheating it in, but could also be played in a deck with mana spam
JackTheStripper
★★★☆☆ (3.4/5.0)(6 votes)
Six CMC. Six to equip. Plus six power. Plus six toughness. Six lines of text. Watermark: Mirran. Six letters.
Pigfish99
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
If you think about it, this armor turns your creatures into eldrazi, in a way.
Expensive on its own, but too good when cheated out.
asskicker123456789
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Expensive, but massively destuctive to opponents when you get it onto the Battlefield and equiped to a creature. I like putting in a blue deck and attatching it to an unblockable creature such as Phantom Warrior, or even Blighted Agent.
strider24seven
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@majinara And anyone who thinks this card is bad in constructed because of its 6 CMC and 6 equip.
Turn 1: Ancient Den, Mox Opal, Ornithopter, Stoneforge Mystic fetching Argentum Armor Turn 2: Plains, Puresteel Paladin Turn 3: Tap Mystic putting Argentum Armor into play, equip to ornithopter for 0 and swing for 6 in the air and removing target permanent of your choice (usually a land or flying blocker)
Keep your opponent at 2-3 mana and beat him to death over 4 turns while still being able cast Swords to Plowshares or Path to Exile. The entire combo essentially requires you to have Stoneforge, Puresteel, and 2 mana sources by turn 2, along with any 3 low-drop artifacts of your choice to get Metalcraft (which are probably your mana sources). I only threw in the ornithopter because I like choppers.
Granted, if you are playing legacy, you are probably better off fetching for a Sword of X and Y or Umezawa's Jitte or Batterskull. And if you like beating people to death with ornithopters then arcbound ravager is probably a better way to go. But just because a card isn't as good as Batterskull or Arcbound Ravager doesn't mean it's not a good card. That's like saying that Counterspell is bad because Mana Drain exists.
In case anyone is keeping track, I've run one of this in an Esper Stoneblade legacy deck as tutor-able removal. It even won me a few games by getting it out early.
This has the 2nd highest casting cost among equipments, as well as the highest equip cost. It also gives the highest unconditional power and toughness boost of all equipments. Plus pseudo-Annihilator 1. In my opinion, the best value Stonehewer Giant target. For 2 mana you get to tutor it, put it on the battlefield AND equip it!
On another note, does anyone else get the idea that this card started out as a 'Tribal Artifact - Eldrazi Equipment' for ROE that actually gave Annihilator 1 instead of the Vindicate ability? It was the set just before this, and I'm sure I've read somewhere that sometimes unused cards get put in later sets...
Either that or it was a throwback to the Kaldra equipments from old Mirrodin...
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Especially if you decide to put it on Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. Along with all three elemental swords. And Worldslayer. Since you'll automatically win when it lands, you might as well take everything with it.
...OK, all that is ridiculously hard to do, massive overkill, and only a terrible deck would have all those cards in it. But big cards like this make me wonder.
Yes, with a stonehewer giant it's good, but most of the time it will suck. The only place where I will see myself playing this is in slow EDH/Commander decks, where I play with colors that can't deal with certain permanents (ie put it in a black or red deck to have something that can deal with enchantments).
Limited 3/5
Constructed 1/5
...This is some cruel joke, right?
Next turn, I put it on a darksteel myr, my friend was playing a B/R deck and didn't have anyway to deal with it. All I could do was laugh as I blew his lightning greaves up and shouted "YOUR TERMINATES ARE USELESS! BAHAHAHA"
T2: Stoneforge Mystic (tutor the armor) + Kor Duelist
T3: Use Stoneforge Mystic to get the armor into play. Play Kor outfitter and equip armor to Duelist. Atack for 16.
Hey, a man can dream can't he?
Wouldn't be too hard to use with green either. You can even put it on something small like a plant token from Khalni Garden and it would still wreak havoc on your opponent.
Shouldn't be used as a "main artillery" like Armadillo Cloak, Rancor, Sword of Fire and Ice etc... But if it gets to the point where this guy hits play, I'm sure it's gonna make your opponent squirm.
I'm not complaining. It's a very fun card. Not overly expensive for what you're getting either, if they cant deal with this your going to be hosing their most important permanent every turn.
Definitely easier to use in formats with 40 life (2HG, EDH).
Brass Squire is a Myr that can be tapped for instant speed, free equipping.
Cast a large hasty creature like Flameborn Hellion, tap Brass Squire to chuck it Argentum Armour, swing with an 11/10 and a vindicate...
Essentially a first turn win?
It's still a very good card, though, and decks that can get past the mana curve issue are bound to find it a useful card to supplement a removal strategy.
It's easy to cheat in, and with a Puresteel Paladin potentially free to equip. The hard casting and equipping cost is to prevent it from becoming an easily splashable win card in every deck.
expensive, yeah, but once you get it going its quite powerful
better cheating it in, but could also be played in a deck with mana spam
Six to equip.
Plus six power.
Plus six toughness.
Six lines of text.
Watermark: Mirran. Six letters.
still, really good.
This user preferred using Quest for the Holy Relic, Glint Hawk, and Memnite.
And anyone who thinks this card is bad in constructed because of its 6 CMC and 6 equip.
Turn 1: Ancient Den, Mox Opal, Ornithopter, Stoneforge Mystic fetching Argentum Armor
Turn 2: Plains, Puresteel Paladin
Turn 3: Tap Mystic putting Argentum Armor into play, equip to ornithopter for 0 and swing for 6 in the air and removing target permanent of your choice (usually a land or flying blocker)
Keep your opponent at 2-3 mana and beat him to death over 4 turns while still being able cast Swords to Plowshares or Path to Exile. The entire combo essentially requires you to have Stoneforge, Puresteel, and 2 mana sources by turn 2, along with any 3 low-drop artifacts of your choice to get Metalcraft (which are probably your mana sources). I only threw in the ornithopter because I like choppers.
Granted, if you are playing legacy, you are probably better off fetching for a Sword of X and Y or Umezawa's Jitte or Batterskull. And if you like beating people to death with ornithopters then arcbound ravager is probably a better way to go. But just because a card isn't as good as Batterskull or Arcbound Ravager doesn't mean it's not a good card. That's like saying that Counterspell is bad because Mana Drain exists.
In case anyone is keeping track, I've run one of this in an Esper Stoneblade legacy deck as tutor-able removal. It even won me a few games by getting it out early.
On another note, does anyone else get the idea that this card started out as a 'Tribal Artifact - Eldrazi Equipment' for ROE that actually gave Annihilator 1 instead of the Vindicate ability? It was the set just before this, and I'm sure I've read somewhere that sometimes unused cards get put in later sets...
Either that or it was a throwback to the Kaldra equipments from old Mirrodin...