Ugh. Bad memories playing against someone who was comboing this with Dauntless escort.
Still, titans will be titans. Easy 5/5
BegleOne
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(11 votes)
I think this is the best Titan just because it's usually used for something different and interesting. The other Titans' abilities aren't exactly what I'd call comboriffic, this one's ability is a mind-bending exercise in synergy building.
Enemy_Tricolor
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0)(3 votes)
IMHO, the least of the five titans, only because of the fact that he wants you to play a lot of small creatures, and his cost is a little awkward mana curve-wise. Minor quibble, however, and the title "least of the five titans" still means he smashes face.
Gaussgoat
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(4 votes)
Outstanding card in white. Coupled with sweeper effects like Day of Judgment, this guy will create insane board advantage in no time.
The Vigilance is, as usual, hugely underrated and will make your opponent think really hard about swinging.
My favorite titan by far, but it's probably only the third best behind the grave and primeval titans. 6/6 with vigilance for 6 is good enough on its own, but the immediate card advantage that this provides is what puts it over the top. There are so many creatures with insane comes-into-play abilities that you're often getting a two or even a three-for-one right off the bat. You wanna doom blade this? The oblivion ring i just brought back means that you just got two-for-oned with your own removal spell.
All the titan are insanely powerful but the top three are just ridiculous. 5/5
tantallum99
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(2 votes)
I have to say, this is my favorite titan. Not just creature, but permanent. and not to your hand, to the battlefield. Love it.
Good times in an EDH deck with Zur the Enchanter as general. Zur pulls an enchantment that completely hamstrings your opponent, then your opponent has to spend a turn focusing on getting rid of it. Then this guy throws that enchantment right back into play. And all for no additional cost beyond attacking, once you have Zur and Sun Titan on the field. And EDH format usually allows you enough time to build up the mana to play this guy, which isn't always easy with .
Also, anything you pull from the graveyard cannot be countered. It simply goes into play. Very handy indeed.
Asmodi0000
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
I'm not a fan of this card, but he seems to be a fan of me. Out of the 6 m11/m12 booster packs I've opened, I've gotten 3 of this guy (and 2 Time Reversals, which is also rather odd).
He's a 6/6 vigilance creature for 6, which is good if unexciting, but his come into play/attack ability is ridiculous.
Seal of Cleansing makes him able to destroy an artifact/enchantment each turn, and Hyena Umbra or Eland Umbra give him several extra lives. And these are just random cards that appeared in my hastily built white EDH deck.
Khavrion
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
If a less-than-easy combo, I can roll this guy out on turn 4 with palladium myr, then on turn five I can summon my Sunblast Angel (killing the myr) and then use the titan to get my myr back :D
Also useful since the Angel inevitably takes out my Gideon's Lawkeepers; pay one and tap to tap a creature when Sunblast is on the way is just too good.
I feel like someone should be able to design a deck that abuses Oath of Druids and Sun Titan.
JaxsonBateman
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(4 votes)
Considering there's a permanent that does just about everything these days for 3 mana or less (yes, even countering spells thanks to Voidmage Prodigy), in the right deck Sun Titan's trigger can do pretty much whatever you need it to. And that's not an exaggeration at all, which is the really scary bit.
Thanks to Phatasmal Image though, he now forms an incredibly strong combo that even sees some competitive standard play. When you play Sun Titan, unless they kill him in response to his trigger (targetting your first Phantasmal Image in the graveyard), you're going to end up getting every Phantasmal Image out of your graveyard as a copy of Sun Titan, plus the 'normal' 3 mana or less permanent you would've gotten anyway. So for 6 mana and with 2 Images in the graveyard from whatever previous shenanigans, you end up with 18 points of attacking power and 3 on attack triggers each turn.
Personally, my fave casual Sun Titan deck is an esper tap-out control deck, with stuff like Oblivion Ring, Wall of Omens, Fleshbag Marauder, Jace Beleren and plenty of fetchlands. It rarely loses. =D
crystalisdraco
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
In the new block you can combine this with Divine Reckoning then swing to really put your opponent in trouble, hopefully.
Lyoncet
★☆☆☆☆ (1.4/5.0)(5 votes)
Stupid Sun Titan. If it weren't for him, the titan cycle would correspond alphabetically to the color wheel (Frost Grave Inferno Primeval).
Or we could just crown Blue the new top of the wheel, where we know it was meant to belong. :p
ZestuXIII
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0)(8 votes)
Sun Titan said "Let there be copies!"
And Sun Titan begat Phantasmal Image.
And there were copies.
And lo, Sun Titan said "Let there be Solar Flare!"
And there was Solar Flare once more.
LeBandersnatch
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
This card is so freaking boss, especially in Limited. I opened this p1p1 in a draft and was like, "Well, I guess I'm going White-Blue control." And then the guy next to me passed me a Mind Control. Next pack, I got a DOJ and then pick two Fireball. Needless to say, I won that draft. Even a Sorin Markov killing one of my creatures every turn and then using his ultimate ability wasn't enough to beat the ridiculous card advantage machine that this guy is.
GrimjawxRULES
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Combos in limited with Merfolk Looter: Tap the looter, draw a card, discard a permanent with cc3 or less, attack and cast it from your graveyard for free. Also recurs dead O-rings and other goodies :)
I love using this with Spirit Mantle and Swiftfoot boots. >:D
Dr.Pingas
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
mean, mean card; definitely one of the more awkward titans. Bro turns Lotus Bloom into a Black Lotus every turn. That's some tastey cheese right there, with plenty gravy.
Gcrudaplaneswalker
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Useful for reviving cards such as Liliana of the Veil.
The-Earth-Dragon
★★☆☆☆ (2.3/5.0)(5 votes)
I really despise the Titans. They are no fun to play with or against. Just plain overpowered. But what do you expect. Zendikar block was a power level hike, so you had to expect everything to follow suit.
I only got back into magic a few months back after dropping out during Ravnica (for reasons other then boredom with the game.....what a set to leave on) and was shocked to see people calling Dark Ascension a steaming pile of crap (which I've quickly gotten back up to speed and those were all foolish short-sighted comments). The Titan cycle is the main reason. I'm just glad most of the community wants to see them go.
With the versatility of Magic, there is really no reason to blatantly raise the power level like they did with the Titans. "Mythic" Rares should not by default be "Broken" Rares.
@The_Earth_dragon Strange you should make that argument on the one titan that is the most fun to play with and watch. The only titan that is incredibly above the curve is Primeval Titan, because of his ability to grab any two land, an ability surely worth 6 mana by itself, which often leads to the game being won immediately afterwards. For the others, you get a 3ish cmc spell thrown on for whenever your fatty comes into play or attacks. Quite powerful, but not "No fun to play with or against." Have you ever slapped a Basilisk collar on an Inferno Titan and laughed like a madman while you smash them in the face for a bajillion lifelink and gatling down his creatures? No? Have you recurred your Lightning Greaves with Sunny here, smashed for six, and ripped a Tectonic Edge out to smash into your opponent's Cabal Coffers? Sure, Sun Titan and Primeval Titan, and to a lesser extent, Grave Titan and Inferno Titan, have become benchmarks to an extent. People complained about Baneslayer Angel a lot before it was reprinted and the price tanked, but nobody cares anymore. I know it's sad that Personal Incarnation isn't the best six drop in white anymore, but WOTC recognizes that you can't win games with big creatures that do nothing because small creatures and removal will just beat you up. And if the complaint is against mythic rares, meh. They're just rares. Are they rarer? I can't really tell. They aren't always more powerful. It just seems harder to open good cards out of packs than bad cards. You get Sun Titan, and you get... Sundial of the Infinite. You get Archangel's Light or you get Sudden Disappearance, but hey, there's a Lingering Souls in the pack, pretty much stronger than all the rares or mythics in the set. If they kept power level at a constant, you would never need to change your deck. Ever.
Delphideck
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Fun Fact: You can use Sun Titan to get around Hexproof!
Geist of Saint Traft getting you down? Why, just cast Sun Titan while a Dead Weight is in your graveyard, and attach it to that pesky Hexproof creature (no casting involved, no abilities involved).
This card is the bane of my existence when I play against my friend's control deck. Truly an evil, evil card.
DarthParallax
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
not too shabby with Sword of Vengeance. Actually, with Sword of Vengeance it looks like a real Titan, child of Gaea and Space, sire of Gods and foresire of Heroes, from the Ancient days of Greece. o.O And I thought Protean Hydra was supposed to be the Greek Myth reference?
MindAblaze
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I don't care what people say...this guy is the best Titan. Epic looking art, sweet recursion ability that allows variation (not like primeval who just picks the best combo lands in the format out of your deck to win with...) and vigilance, which is always underrated. I was playing a five player FFA match the other night and one of my buddies was running a Royal Assassin. Yay for invulnerability!
My dream card would be a Sun Titan the returned any card costing 3 or less to your hand, then I would keep bouncing Orim's Chant, and my opponent couldn't do anything but play instants on my turn. Evil laugh. Is there a white card that does that?
ParishInquisitor
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Probably my favorite titan. Great for getting multiple uses out of Steve.
TastetheJace
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Best of the titans. The utility. The art. The flavor. Absolutely amazing.
5/5.
Osprey_93
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Everyone loves the Angelic Renewal combo, but if you're thinking of running Auras in EDH and are in Zur's Colours may I suggest Necromancer's Magemark instead?
Brawler_1337
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I freaking love this guy. I've only used him in my Uril EDH deck as a way of recovering cheaper Auras, but the amount of utility I get out of him is incredible. Recover fetch lands like Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothils, or Krosan Verge,the latter especially while I'm attacking with Bear Umbra? Yes, please. Recycle self-sacking creatures like Sakura-Tribe Elder, Qasali Pridemage, or Yavimaya Elder, with additional bonus points for having Nomad Mythmaker out for once-per-turn recycling of Pattern of Rebirth? Oh, man, Ulamog all day long. Reuse Sterling Grove over and over, fetching all the Enchantments I need while only giving my opponents a small window of time in which they can target my other Enchantments? I like the sound of that. Get back Fires of Yavimaya after sacking it to give a creature +2/+2? Love it. With so many of my cards at 3 mana or less, there's little this guy can't do in my deck.
Being 6 mana in white does make him difficult to get out in most white decks, and I think that balances this guy enough to make him worthy of a 5/5. Really powerful, definitely makes a statement once he hits the board, but the fairly hefty mana cost balances him out.
I love this card. In EDH, he can recur so many things. All the fetch lands (to ramp), lands that sacrifice for their effect (wasteland is pretty mean), or get your sword of fire and ice back. you can even combo it with something that can sacrifice creatures so you can get their effects again (like stoneforge mystic).
He also has white shades to complement Vish Kal.
Pendulous
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Planeswalkers are permanents. that's four planeswalkers you can finagle into your graveyard, and get out for free.
TowerDefender
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Should have been Legendary, as should have been all the Titans. Although then they'd have been Commanders...
MacBizzle
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
He's not the "Least of the 5 titans." If anything, I'd call him second best, right behind Primetime. FROST Titan is the worst, right behind Grave Titan. Running him in monowhite? Angelic Renewal is pseudoinvulnerability (think about it) and Seal of Cleansing can hit any artifact or enchantment repeatedly. I'd run this in a deck with a lot of "dies" and sacrifice abilities on cards with cmc 3 or less. In using those types of cards, I can guarantee I'll have something I want to grab with this guy.
A3Kitsune
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@NARFNra: He might not be in Theros. He's been confirmed as one of the two mythics in Duel Decks: Heroes vs Monsters (the other being this new hydra called Polucranos, World Eater, which probably is from Theros).
YoungSloshee
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
A beast in any Kithkin, Soldier, or white weenie deck.
"Oh, you finally got rid of my Pariah? Hm, nope. It's coming back every turn until you learn how to play nice. Or concede."
SarpNasty
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The amount of Liliana of the Veils and Jace Belerens that have come back from the graveyard against me because of this card is absolutely disgusting.
Not the best titan on it's own, but in the right deck, it's one of the best cards I've ever lost to.
Boatwhite1
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Great card, what if I wanted to return a fuse card from the ravnica block such as Far // Away? What is its casting cost? 3, 2 or 5?
mdakw576
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
in EDH, with the banning of primeval titan, this is by far the best titan, it's not even close.
It's almost always has something to bring back; at worst you get back fetch lands in which case you are rampant growthing every turn, which is pretty good out of a white deck. I'm sure there are tons of great card combinations out there for you to get back over and over. This thing is pure value and among one of the better titans. Grave Titan and Inferno Titan are scarier on paper but, this card adds more to a deck imo.
@Boatwhite1: In this case, 2 and 3... but it's not a permanent, so you can't return it anyway.
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Phantasmal image really breaks this thing in half. The image is already hyper efficient, and then this thing comes around midgame and basically wins the game for you.
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Still, titans will be titans. Easy 5/5
The Vigilance is, as usual, hugely underrated and will make your opponent think really hard about swinging.
5/5
*facepalm* stuipid titans, stuipid power creep. I almost will miss Wurmcoil Engine.
All the titan are insanely powerful but the top three are just ridiculous. 5/5
Oblivion Ring
Tectonic Edge
Journey to Nowhere
Fetchlands
Manlands
Sword of Feast and Famine
Sword of War and Peace
Sword of Body and Mind
etc.
Also, anything you pull from the graveyard cannot be countered. It simply goes into play. Very handy indeed.
He's a 6/6 vigilance creature for 6, which is good if unexciting, but his come into play/attack ability is ridiculous.
Seal of Cleansing makes him able to destroy an artifact/enchantment each turn, and Hyena Umbra or Eland Umbra give him several extra lives. And these are just random cards that appeared in my hastily built white EDH deck.
Also useful since the Angel inevitably takes out my Gideon's Lawkeepers; pay one and tap to tap a creature when Sunblast is on the way is just too good.
I feel like someone should be able to design a deck that abuses Oath of Druids and Sun Titan.
Thanks to Phatasmal Image though, he now forms an incredibly strong combo that even sees some competitive standard play. When you play Sun Titan, unless they kill him in response to his trigger (targetting your first Phantasmal Image in the graveyard), you're going to end up getting every Phantasmal Image out of your graveyard as a copy of Sun Titan, plus the 'normal' 3 mana or less permanent you would've gotten anyway. So for 6 mana and with 2 Images in the graveyard from whatever previous shenanigans, you end up with 18 points of attacking power and 3 on attack triggers each turn.
Personally, my fave casual Sun Titan deck is an esper tap-out control deck, with stuff like Oblivion Ring, Wall of Omens, Fleshbag Marauder, Jace Beleren and plenty of fetchlands. It rarely loses. =D
Or we could just crown Blue the new top of the wheel, where we know it was meant to belong. :p
And Sun Titan begat Phantasmal Image.
And there were copies.
And lo, Sun Titan said "Let there be Solar Flare!"
And there was Solar Flare once more.
And then the guy next to me passed me a Mind Control. Next pack, I got a DOJ and then pick two Fireball.
Needless to say, I won that draft. Even a Sorin Markov killing one of my creatures every turn and then using his ultimate ability wasn't enough to beat the ridiculous card advantage machine that this guy is.
I only got back into magic a few months back after dropping out during Ravnica (for reasons other then boredom with the game.....what a set to leave on) and was shocked to see people calling Dark Ascension a steaming pile of crap (which I've quickly gotten back up to speed and those were all foolish short-sighted comments). The Titan cycle is the main reason. I'm just glad most of the community wants to see them go.
With the versatility of Magic, there is really no reason to blatantly raise the power level like they did with the Titans. "Mythic" Rares should not by default be "Broken" Rares.
Strange you should make that argument on the one titan that is the most fun to play with and watch. The only titan that is incredibly above the curve is Primeval Titan, because of his ability to grab any two land, an ability surely worth 6 mana by itself, which often leads to the game being won immediately afterwards. For the others, you get a 3ish cmc spell thrown on for whenever your fatty comes into play or attacks. Quite powerful, but not "No fun to play with or against." Have you ever slapped a Basilisk collar on an Inferno Titan and laughed like a madman while you smash them in the face for a bajillion lifelink and gatling down his creatures? No? Have you recurred your Lightning Greaves with Sunny here, smashed for six, and ripped a Tectonic Edge out to smash into your opponent's Cabal Coffers?
Sure, Sun Titan and Primeval Titan, and to a lesser extent, Grave Titan and Inferno Titan, have become benchmarks to an extent. People complained about Baneslayer Angel a lot before it was reprinted and the price tanked, but nobody cares anymore. I know it's sad that Personal Incarnation isn't the best six drop in white anymore, but WOTC recognizes that you can't win games with big creatures that do nothing because small creatures and removal will just beat you up.
And if the complaint is against mythic rares, meh. They're just rares. Are they rarer? I can't really tell. They aren't always more powerful. It just seems harder to open good cards out of packs than bad cards. You get Sun Titan, and you get... Sundial of the Infinite. You get Archangel's Light or you get Sudden Disappearance, but hey, there's a Lingering Souls in the pack, pretty much stronger than all the rares or mythics in the set.
If they kept power level at a constant, you would never need to change your deck. Ever.
Geist of Saint Traft getting you down? Why, just cast Sun Titan while a Dead Weight is in your graveyard, and attach it to that pesky Hexproof creature (no casting involved, no abilities involved).
This card is the bane of my existence when I play against my friend's control deck. Truly an evil, evil card.
5/5.
Being 6 mana in white does make him difficult to get out in most white decks, and I think that balances this guy enough to make him worthy of a 5/5. Really powerful, definitely makes a statement once he hits the board, but the fairly hefty mana cost balances him out.
Use isochron scepter instead.
I love this card. In EDH, he can recur so many things. All the fetch lands (to ramp), lands that sacrifice for their effect (wasteland is pretty mean), or get your sword of fire and ice back. you can even combo it with something that can sacrifice creatures so you can get their effects again (like stoneforge mystic).
He also has white shades to complement Vish Kal.
If anything, I'd call him second best, right behind Primetime. FROST Titan is the worst, right behind Grave Titan.
Running him in monowhite? Angelic Renewal is pseudoinvulnerability (think about it) and Seal of Cleansing can hit any artifact or enchantment repeatedly. I'd run this in a deck with a lot of "dies" and sacrifice abilities on cards with cmc 3 or less. In using those types of cards, I can guarantee I'll have something I want to grab with this guy.
"Oh, you finally got rid of my Pariah? Hm, nope. It's coming back every turn until you learn how to play nice. Or concede."
Not the best titan on it's own, but in the right deck, it's one of the best cards I've ever lost to.
-Fleshbag Marauder
-Necrotic Sliver (attack, tap 3, get a vindicate)
-Liliana of the Veil (Feeds the grave too)
-Wasteland
In white black you can get him out pretty quick with a good hand:
T1 - Mox Diamond, land, Deathrite Shaman
T2 - Knight of the White Orchid, land
T3 - Land, Sun Titan (3 lands, Mox, DRS, Knight-land)
Other odd ramp can include Path to Exile and Phyrexian Tower