In my experience, it's less a creature and more a sorcery reading "2B: each other player sacrifices a creature". Unless you have something with an interesting death trigger or the like.
mantisCZ
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.8/5.0)(3 votes)
Great combo with this: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=129629
scumbling1
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(4 votes)
"In my experience, it's less a creature and more a sorcery reading "2B: each other player sacrifices a creature". Unless you have something with an interesting death trigger or the like."
friends with sun titan, debtors' knell, teneb the harvester, dawn of the dead, karador ghost chieftain, etc.
Kryptnyt
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
@MantisCZ Saves a lot of everyone's time to autocard. Lord of the Undead See? that wasn't so hard.
RJDroid
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This guy is so good. I am never sad to draw him in EDH. He gets really nasty if you have a Sheoldred out. And of course, he goes well with Grave Pact and Martyr's Bond.
LadyAngus
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Can't believe this is rated under 4! This stinkin' bag of rotting flesh is the business! Use it in multi-player to both feed Kresh the Bloodbraided et al AND reduce your enemies' blocking ranks. It's great for any Zombie tribal deck or graveyard-abusing deck.
Undying love and Unearth will love this guy combine him with grave pact and diregraf captain not to mention Phryrexian Altar and you have the beginning of a strong removal deck with ping action.
Paleopaladin
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@MindAblaze:
I'm pretty sure the answer to that is "yes." State-based effects are always checked in between the resolution of events on the stack. So you'd finish casting him, which would cause his EtB trigger to fire off, but then after he comes into play, but before anything else on the stack resolves, he would go to the GY as a state-based-effect for having 0 toughness. Then his trigger would resolve and each player sacs a creature and he wouldn't be there for you to choose as a creature to sac.
At least that's how I *think* it would work. A rules adviser in the rules Q&A of http://community.wizards.com would tell you for sure.
If this is the only creature out with Endless Whispers, there won't be any creatures out ever till it's dealt with. Simply kill Fleshbag and it keeps coming back, even if it's the last creature it still comes back.
If I cast this with a Heartless Summoning out, he dies before he can be sacrificed?
@Paleopaladin Thanks, that's what I thought and I've brought it to a few judges I know and while there's been some debate that seems to be the popular vote.
MisterAction
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Yo zombie so fat, he should have defender!
Axelle
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
TimmyForever's comment would be funnier if he weren't a known troll, and an ass too.
Heartless Summoning makes this card nearly exactly like an Innocent Blood, up to having to sacrifice a creature other than the Fleshbag.
@Mindablaze The answer is most definitely yes. I see it happen all the time on MTGO, they use Perilous Myr as a sorcery speed shock for .
donjohnson
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Horrible, terrible creature. Our playgroup pretty much concedes when this card hits the table (of course its always me playing it). So many nasty ways to abuse the crap out of it :-)
Lifegainwithbite
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Most disgusting art ever...
atemu1234
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Face just screams "Hey, did that guy just pick up my chocolate cake?!"
blurrymadness
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I rate this guy a 5/5. Might seem like a bit much, be he's reanimatable removal; and it's one sided and untargetted.
Used with Sun Titan, as Wrath mentioned, it's excellent recurring removal. A legacy game I had with my janky W/B deck went like this:
-T3 they show and tell Ulamog, Fleshbag kill him -T5 they show and tell Ulamog, Sun Titan comes in, fleshbag enters, kills ulamog -T7 they hardcast Ulamog, Sun Titan attacks (they killed a different problem creature) Fleshbag reanimates, kills ulamog, Opponent scoops realizing that he's locked out of the game.
3 Ulamogs died to this guy. I want you to remember that next time you spout nonsense about Gatekeeper of Malakir. He's a great card, but Kicker + Target vs. untargetted ETB, i'll take ETB almost any day. do a 2-2 split if you wish, but fleshbags are worth it if you have any recursion in the deck.
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But being a creature, it is much easier for black decks to use it over and over again -- Phyrexian Reclamation, Haunted Crossroads, Volrath's Stronghold, Unholy Grotto, ect.
Saves a lot of everyone's time to autocard.
Lord of the Undead
See? that wasn't so hard.
I'm pretty sure the answer to that is "yes." State-based effects are always checked in between the resolution of events on the stack. So you'd finish casting him, which would cause his EtB trigger to fire off, but then after he comes into play, but before anything else on the stack resolves, he would go to the GY as a state-based-effect for having 0 toughness. Then his trigger would resolve and each player sacs a creature and he wouldn't be there for you to choose as a creature to sac.
At least that's how I *think* it would work. A rules adviser in the rules Q&A of http://community.wizards.com would tell you for sure.
@Paleopaladin
Thanks, that's what I thought and I've brought it to a few judges I know and while there's been some debate that seems to be the popular vote.
Heartless Summoning makes this card nearly exactly like an Innocent Blood, up to having to sacrifice a creature other than the Fleshbag.
@Mindablaze
The answer is most definitely yes. I see it happen all the time on MTGO, they use Perilous Myr as a sorcery speed shock for
Our playgroup pretty much concedes when this card hits the table (of course its always me playing it).
So many nasty ways to abuse the crap out of it :-)
Used with Sun Titan, as Wrath mentioned, it's excellent recurring removal. A legacy game I had with my janky W/B deck went like this:
-T3 they show and tell Ulamog, Fleshbag kill him
-T5 they show and tell Ulamog, Sun Titan comes in, fleshbag enters, kills ulamog
-T7 they hardcast Ulamog, Sun Titan attacks (they killed a different problem creature) Fleshbag reanimates, kills ulamog, Opponent scoops realizing that he's locked out of the game.
3 Ulamogs died to this guy. I want you to remember that next time you spout nonsense about Gatekeeper of Malakir. He's a great card, but Kicker + Target vs. untargetted ETB, i'll take ETB almost any day. do a 2-2 split if you wish, but fleshbags are worth it if you have any recursion in the deck.