Amazing headache of a card (See Opalescence, and cry). This card ruins so many strategies that its instant inclusion in the sideboard of slow white decks. You can build a good deck around it too: use lots of creatures that "come into play with X +1/+1 counters", and your creatures will still have those counters. Your opponent on the other hand...
U-B-E-R I run this in my weenie deck. But I don't think my little brain can handle running this with Opalescence: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/76184-13-opalescence-humility
Ivan_Arkens
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(4 votes)
Does this or does this NOT nullify come-into-play abilities? I've had different judges tell me different answers.
PjotrV
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(8 votes)
@Ivan_Arkens: Latest version of the CompRules says: "611.3c Continuous effects that modify characteristics of permanents do so simultaneously with the permanent entering the battlefield. They don’t wait until the permanent is on the battlefield and then change it. Because such effects apply as the permanent enters the battlefield, they are applied before determining whether the permanent will cause an ability to trigger when it enters the battlefield."
So no, CIP effects of creatures are not triggered if Humility is in play.
SylarSengir
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0)(2 votes)
i would think comes into play abilities are not lost because they are triggered abilities it happens as it comes into play. (they have to happen) once in play any abilities it has are lost. thats the way i would play the card. i just ordered it from cardkindom i plan on building a deck around it.
I also see no problem with opalescence, there is no conflict. humlity becomes a creature, but the ability is not the creatures its the enchantments (it's still an enchantment) but thats just the way i would play it.
Ichorix
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
This + Night of Soul's Betrayal = No creatures on the field, permanently (barring Glorious Anthem variants).
Actree
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(2 votes)
This+Night of Soul's Betrayal+say honor of the pure=win
FouCapitan
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
"comes into play" or "enters the battlefield" abilities would be lost, because as soon as it hits the board after casting the creature spell, the abilities nullify due to Humility's effect.
However "when you cast" abilities such as Emrakul, the Aeons Torn's extra turn take affect when you declare the spell, before it enters the battlefield, so they would still resolve.
MaccTheCheesemage
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Is that a Viashivan Dragon on the right? Anyone reconize the creature on the left?
Alright, while I do like the card, I find it slightly annoying. Nothing like spending 120+dollars on a deck that runs with perfect symetry, then finding room for those OH so helpful Krosan Grips.
axiobeta
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
AvatarofHOE, you cannot cleanse the wounds of failure.
If your opponent can get out of that lock, then you probably forgot to destroy his/her Mana Echoes.
Guest1634888829
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I have one each of this card and Oplaescence in my EDH deck. What happens when this is played before Opalescence? What happens when this is played after Opalescence?
Also, how do this card and cards like Crusade interact?
Maybe I should just take it out of my EDH deck :-p
Cloudchaser.Kestrel
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Does "is a 1/1 creature" mean that it remains a 1/1 creature even when interacting with boosting cards like honor of the pure or Armored Ascension? Other creatures such as veteran Armorsmith would obviously loose their powers, but how about Artifacts, instants, and Enchantments?
Salient
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Word of advice: this is important: Don't ever play this card within earshot of a rules junkie, as if you make any attempt to casually explain how the card works to your opponent YOU WILL NEVER HEAR THE END OF IT.
I would say don't ever play this card at all, but it's much too much fun to see a player relying on a Progenitus or Emrakul combo reduced to tears. This card pretty thoroughly hoses reanimator and zoo decks, too. (Zoo decks' artifact removal is primarily Qasali Pridemage, whose activated ability gets nixed by Humility.)
zenitramleirdag
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
a card up his sleeve! yeah! i got the joke.. ha ha ha ha ha..
very good control card! i run 1 in my parfait deck..
Averyck
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
this is going into my Enduring Ideal deck right along with Circle of Flame
bay_falconer
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
You want to know how to annoy someone?
Seriously, this is one of the "the only thing less politically savvy is being caught with an underage page" cards in multiplayer.
The judges telling you two different things might all be right. The reason is because there are two different "comes into play" abilities. Cards that read "enters the battlefield as", "as X enters the battlefield" or "enters the Battlefield with" don't have triggered abilities, they don't use the stack, and Humility's effect won't touch them. Cards that read "when X enters the batlefield" do have triggered abilities, and Humility will cause them not to have those abilities and not to trigger.
So a Ghave, Guru of Spores will have 5 +1/+1 counters, but won't have his two abilities when he's in play. Meanwhile, an Acidic Slime doesn't destroy anything when it ETB's, and it doesn't have Deathtouch either.
TheKazu
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
So its like Skill Drain, except for Magic the Gathering. Swell.
Simply the greatest creature hoser ever printed. Essentially removes all creatures in play, AND all creatures that ever come into play in the future, barring enchantment removal. That will only change when they print a card that says "This creature cannot have its abilities removed". Can't wait. I'm going to make a deck with Misthollow Griffin, Reassembling Skeleton, and that card just to bother people who think they have their bases covered.
Edit: Speaking of Reassembling Skeleton, I guess it defeats this card for all purposes anyway. What a guy.
in a bant simic +1/+1 counter deck- FUN. also glorious anthem.
Malakym
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@elhajjaj
That can't be it, Street Wraith came out in Future Sight (unless it is a reprint of an older card, but considering the nature of that set I doubt it). Having said that, I've gone through every black card before Tempest and haven't noticed anything that would fit the bill. Maybe it is just some generic lich creature and the Shivan dragon being there made it seem as if it had more importance.
elhajjaj
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@malakym. Why not? Just because Street Wraith came out some years later doesn't necessarily preclude this character from being such. This character may simply have foreshadowed the later wraith.
Callahan09
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
With Red, can use Aggravate or Chandra's Fury to dispatch all of an opponent's creatures but keep your own. With Red/Green, can use Simoon to do the same for a lot less mana. Tremor wipes everyones board for just . Black gets the cheapest opponent removal with an Entwined Wail of the Nim.
ROBRAM89 lays down the best comment in all of gatherer.
I love Humility, It creates some crazy rules questions, and makes combat into a competition to see who has the most creatures. (Perfect White.) I am surprised I don't see Yixlid Jailer on the list of cards for ultimate paranoia! What if your opponent tries to activate abilities from their graveyard?! It could happen! Better throw in a mindlock orb too: just in case I missed something.
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Also good with Orim's Prayer.
Amusing: Muraganda Petroglyphs
I run this in my weenie deck. But I don't think my little brain can handle running this with Opalescence: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/76184-13-opalescence-humility
Latest version of the CompRules says:
"611.3c
Continuous effects that modify characteristics of permanents do so simultaneously with the permanent entering the battlefield. They don’t wait until the permanent is on the battlefield and then change it. Because such effects apply as the permanent enters the battlefield, they are applied before determining whether the permanent will cause an ability to trigger when it enters the battlefield."
So no, CIP effects of creatures are not triggered if Humility is in play.
I also see no problem with opalescence, there is no conflict. humlity becomes a creature, but the ability is not the creatures its the enchantments (it's still an enchantment) but thats just the way i would play it.
However "when you cast" abilities such as Emrakul, the Aeons Torn's extra turn take affect when you declare the spell, before it enters the battlefield, so they would still resolve.
I love the art on this, not realistic, but makes me lol. Looks unglued.
If your opponent can get out of that lock, then you probably forgot to destroy his/her Mana Echoes.
Also, how do this card and cards like Crusade interact?
Maybe I should just take it out of my EDH deck :-p
I would say don't ever play this card at all, but it's much too much fun to see a player relying on a Progenitus or Emrakul combo reduced to tears. This card pretty thoroughly hoses reanimator and zoo decks, too. (Zoo decks' artifact removal is primarily Qasali Pridemage, whose activated ability gets nixed by Humility.)
ha ha ha ha ha..
very good control card! i run 1 in my parfait deck..
Seriously, this is one of the "the only thing less politically savvy is being caught with an underage page" cards in multiplayer.
In duels, however, combine this guy with Curse of Death's Hold.
The judges telling you two different things might all be right. The reason is because there are two different "comes into play" abilities. Cards that read "enters the battlefield as", "as X enters the battlefield" or "enters the Battlefield with" don't have triggered abilities, they don't use the stack, and Humility's effect won't touch them. Cards that read "when X enters the batlefield" do have triggered abilities, and Humility will cause them not to have those abilities and not to trigger.
So a Ghave, Guru of Spores will have 5 +1/+1 counters, but won't have his two abilities when he's in play. Meanwhile, an Acidic Slime doesn't destroy anything when it ETB's, and it doesn't have Deathtouch either.
oh wait ***.
Edit: Speaking of Reassembling Skeleton, I guess it defeats this card for all purposes anyway. What a guy.
also glorious anthem.
That can't be it, Street Wraith came out in Future Sight (unless it is a reprint of an older card, but considering the nature of that set I doubt it). Having said that, I've gone through every black card before Tempest and haven't noticed anything that would fit the bill. Maybe it is just some generic lich creature and the Shivan dragon being there made it seem as if it had more importance.
I love Humility, It creates some crazy rules questions, and makes combat into a competition to see who has the most creatures. (Perfect White.) I am surprised I don't see Yixlid Jailer on the list of cards for ultimate paranoia! What if your opponent tries to activate abilities from their graveyard?! It could happen! Better throw in a mindlock orb too: just in case I missed something.
Because you didn't like having friends anyway.
At which point I assume you your opponent scoops while you laugh so hard you shit your pants.
I guess it is pretty humiliating that a dragon and a lich had to resort to pan-handling and parlour tricks to make ends meet.