Looks like Plants vs. Zombies went a little... Weird. Rule 34 weird. Anyway, very decent card, having half of Karador's abilities, and a very decent P/T for its cost (or, rather, reduced cost). While it's in need of trample, it definitely isn't terrible as is.
Vividice
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(2 votes)
Chump Block, Chump Block, Chump Block.
Ah Intro Rare, I get it :)
DarthParallax
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Splinterfright, Ghoultree, Birthing Pod, that wurm, Mulch, the new card selection spell...
and that's just in GREEN alone.
Green, Black, and Blue will make some kind of awful monster doom from hell deck that manages to grant Undying to Skaab Ruinator or some *** like that.
I'm also not fond of Knowledge Pool and Rooftop Storm being in the same Standard. seriously, this is going to break somewhere. I can't believe it hasn't yet.
.Blaze.
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I want to run this with Karador so badly. I know it won't be that good, but being able to keep casting a 10/10 for G when I have nothing better to do is just so damn appealing.
The ability works better on this card than it does on Karador, since this only has one colored mana in its cost, and hence you could potentially bring it down to just . But it doesn't really do anything: It's nothing but a big beatstick, and even with the casting-cost reduction, by the time you get it out, your opponent will have chump-blockers.
For Woodland Cemetery I mentioned that I had invented a new tribe: Zombie Tree.
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StarOutlaw
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(1 vote)
When I saw this card I was happy. Starts at 8 for 10/10 and easily gets cheaper. THEN is see NO TRAMPLE!WHY?! I would take this tree for 15 if it had trample. I mean G/B deck Splinterfight, Mulch, Spider Spawning and then you choice of whats fun. You can go control support, Mayor/Cagebreaker, Parrallel Lives.
I love the unalligned colors that don't get a lot of actual support outside of the lands and your atypical flashback like the awsome Spider Spawning.
robits_for_the_win
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Artful Dodge i mean splinterfright decks are mostly blue green anyway
blindthrall
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
This is actually the card I want most for this set, since I can't see myself ever paying more than 3 for it.
Narim
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
The worst thing that can ever happen to your self-milling U/G deck is that your opponent will exile all of your graveyard... it instantly swipes your Splinterfrights, Boneyard Wurms and severly slows your deck down. This guy stays the same 10/10 all the time, even if your graveyard gets exiled or shuffled... solid card in dedicated decks.
shamanix913
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I love this with Fling, Wild Hunger, Unnatural Predation,and Artful Dodge... the bad thing is that it can be removed by a mere Typhoid Rats... but hey... Its fun to play in casual...
Budden
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Glad to see a good treefolk again he will make some good friends in the lorwyn block. Love the artwork! Overrun and Garruk will be close by.
ZestuXIII
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Lets say you have Splinterfright out on Turn 3, and have managed to chump a creature or two into the grave. Turn 4, you mill the optimal 2 creature. If you run Birds, maybe you got the 'Fright out even earlier, and you managed to mill say, 3 creatures and one non-creature by this turn. So you wind up with 4 in the grave, plus the Bird that may or may not have died to removal. You should now have though the - to cast this turn 4. A 10/10. It can go toe-to-toe with most Titans, can take a Wurmcoil out with it, and each time one dies, the next one is cheaper. And all the while, we have Gnaw to the Bone to ensure we stay alive, and Mulch to feed the beast. The new Dual Lands ensure that it becomes easy to Splash Black and White for tricks like a Flashed-Back Forbidden Alchemy. 5/5, for so much Johnny-Spike win.
Radagast
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Well, it lacks Trample so it gets chump blocked, but still, a 10/10 for practically nothing mid-game isn't a bad deal.
Phyrexian_Boss
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0)(1 vote)
good, but not good at the same time a)if you are drawing it on turn ten, who cares if it's only {G}? b)it doesn't get shut down by nihil spellbomb, etc c) why doesn't it have TRAMPLE!!!!!! 3.5/5
dingophone
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
... Blocking = card advantage when its against a 10/10. Yeah it sucks that he doesn't have trample, but most of the time your opponents are faced with a difficult decision against this guy; should they block him and lose a creature or let the damage go through? Ghoultree's not going to see much tourney play, but he's definitely going into my casual U/G deck. 4.5/5.
Pigfish99
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(2 votes)
This is a card I can get behind. Sure, can't cast him right away... but if you pull one out late game, he'll be cheaper than a llanowar elves.
think about that. This thing can kick a few of the eldrazi's arse back to 3 kingdoms.
One of the most efficient green fatties: no evasion, no trample, no protection, but *** CHEAP!
drpvfx
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(2 votes)
I'm kind of surprised no one has compared this to Tarmogoyf yet. They're actually quite similar- big green vanilla beaters that are better with larger graveyards. The main difference is the GY affects the power of 'Goyf, and the cost of Ghoultree.
Since 'Goyf will never be a 10/10 without outside help, Ghoultree is actually better mid-late game, and with the right help (can you say "Dredge"?), you can get it out *almost* as early as Tarmogoyf. Cheated in with Exhume or similar, Ghoultree wins again.
I'm not saying anything like Ghoultree is strictly better than 'Goyf- It's just interesting how similar they are.
GlassJoetheChamp
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Works great with Mindshrieker in more ways than one. :)
RikerBlake
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
It doesn't have trample so that lazy players will actually work to give it trample instead of just dropping it down. Synergy is a big part of the game after all. Invisible Stalker is what happens when people put whatever they like on a card. For non-standard folks, just add brawn for trample!
Enemy_Tricolor
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(5 votes)
Momir Vig was apparently on the design team for this block.
Idahowolfcub
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Trying to figure out if you could use the Protean Hulk card to summon this with the proper number of cards in the Graveyard.
destroytargetplayer
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(1 vote)
Give this Angelic Destiny your opponent will die happy.
GrimjawxRULES
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@Idahowolfcub: Even if you have 7 creatures in your graveyard, Ghoultree's converted manacost is still 8, so it wouldn't be a legal target for the Hulk.
I always think of this as having trample. Because really, it's sad that it doesn't. Also it's a Treefolk Zombie. Wait, what? I thought we were past the Racnica block already!
And then Wizards makes another easily broken card with that ability. Thanks Wizards.
ThePhoenixOfDoom
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I don't know why this is so underrated. In my U/G self mill I can get this guys for {G} by turn 5.
CrazyAce134
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
ghoultree meet fling and his friend curse of bloodletting.
Dabok
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I just want to say that this can work decently in a fun reanimation/self-mill deck centered around Sutured Ghoul. You can put this guy on the graveyard because of it's high power/toughness, or if you drew it and have enough creatures on your graveyard, you can just cast it. By all means not it's best use, but if someone already has a Sutured Ghoul deck, why not give this guy a shot :P (if you also run green in it ofc, Golgari/Dredge comes to mind)
LordRandomness
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I get the feeling that Ghoultree is going to seriously enjoy the presence of Rancor in standard...
BobbySinclair
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I've only got one in my deck so far, but used Ghoultree against my opponent's mill deck. He used a card which put half of my library in my graveyard as a last ditch effort to avoid defeat. Ghoultree was in my hand. I paid 1 mana for him and won. ;D
PKPhyre
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Good Body, more than reasonable cost, tribal support, and an ability that let's it lower it's already cheap cost? How is this less than 4.5/5?
twiddleman12
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(2 votes)
Master Of Etherium You Are So Awesome!!!
immelmann
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
nothing beats the feeling of casting a 10/10 for in mid-late game..if you're running a self mill UG deck, you can have this out on the 3rd or 4th turn if your luck is good; even if you dont win with it, it'll easily hold it's own against most fatties until Splinterfright or Boneyard Wurm gets massive. 4/5
Pinto331
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
I think this is a card a lot of people have been both overestimating and underestimating.
The people overestimating it fail to consider that it's NOT going to get cast for all the time, or even . There will be situations where this will just sit in your hand, needing 5 or 6 mana to get him on the field. And even when you do, he's just a vanilla 10/10. He can get chumped all day long, and in a meta with a lot of weenies, tokens, and creatures thatliketodie, that's gonna happen a lot.
As for those underestimating him...dude, it's a 10/10 that can cost as little as . Take this to the magical realm of EDH (where improbable plays are the rule as opposed to the exception) and you can have a lot of fun. In a / deck there are plenty of uses for this, and getting him back is easy. Feed the Pack combined with any recursion is a good start. Karador could obviously use him. Then we have things like Greater Good, Disciple of Bolas, Rite of Consumption, and a plethora of other cards that like big creatures dying. Oh, and let's not forget the upcoming Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord as a commander that would LOVE a creature like this.
I think the key to this guy is seeing him as more than just a 10/10 beater for cheap. Find a way to really make use of his P/T and he can serve as efficient fuel for your graveyard and sacrifice shenanigans.
TDL
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I think Jarad might have a use for this guy...
Arachnos
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Just slap a good ol' Rancor on that tree and we're in business.
Notchism
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Its best with Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
HarlequinValentine
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I prefer Essence Harvest myself, 10dd and 10 life for 3 then attack and (Hulk) smash through their defense. Also since its obviously going to be a target so Death's Presence is a fantastic backup.
HunkeyMunky
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Ghoultree, my friend, every time I protect you with a sheltering word you treat me so kindly.
Continue
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
And in a bar, somewhere far away, Scaled Wurm weeps into his drink.
ajolt151
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I have this in my BUG Zombie and Mill/Self-Mill deck with Grisly Salvage and Lotleth Troll feeding my graveyard for my Zombie Treefolk. And, if he gets through, that's 10 cards and potentially a few Zombie tokens if Undead Alchemist is on the battlefield. Great finisher that can get out relatively quickly in this deck.
Spockawitz92Y
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Good god that a fat tree! I love the clashing tribals here, just awesome. A HUGE butt and a boot to go with it, and dont worry if your never going to pay 8 mana for this guy, I use him with my B/G/U self-mill zombies and I get him out for 3 or 4 mana all the time, sometimes it is just great to pay {G} for a 10/10. Give him some tribal bonuses, slap a good ol' Rancor on him or do what the pros do and make sure Brawn finds a comfy spot 6 feet under. 4/5 just because hes a 10/10 zombie.
Come on guys, think about it. It's a late game 10/10 for possibly as little as . This thing shouldn't be under 4 stars.
auriscope
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
My favorite story regarding this card was a 3way EDH game, where I controlled Meishin, the Mind Cage with seven cards in hand, and my buddy cast Ghoultree. Another friend cast kicked Rite of Replication on it, and I Reiterated the Rite, resulting in a field of eleven 3/10 Ghoultrees and some other stuff. I actually didn't realize this card was a 10/10 (and not a 3/10) until right now.
This card frustrates me. That stupid one green mana! I want to to play it for free! I want more cards for my no mana deck! I really hope to see this ability on many more cards. Maybe one day on an artifact? Nemesis of Mortals gives me hope.
MortisAngelus
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Now please tell me how something as huge and powerful like this is stopped by an arbor elf that just happened to step in its way? There are 1/1, 1-mana creatures out there that has trample. I' be glad even if it costed (7)(G)(G) if it just would have had trample.. I mean.. This is just stupid!.
how does Ghoultree have a lower rating than Nemesis of Mortals? By the way, anyone else notice that this is the only mono green zombie?
@undeadrabbit affinity taught wizards a lot. they would never make a card like that again, unless it was really bad (like a 2/2 for 8)
r2d2go
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@OstravaBoletaria: Having played both in my Golgari graveyard-beatdown deck, there are a few reasons why Nemesis can be better. The first is that when I have three or four creatures in my graveyard (generally happening around turn 3-4), and Nemesis of Mortals is a 5/5 for 2 compared to Ghoultree being a 10/10 for 6 or 7, I want Nemesis. When I have more creatures and less cards in my hand, I can then Monstrosity my Nemesis, making it a 10/10. Secondly, Nemesis is uncommon. Thirdly, Nemesis is new and standard. And finally, well, the rating was probably lower when you posted that, but Ghoultree is currently at 3.8 whereas Nemesis is at 3.5.
Comments (62)
Thanks for being a rare, though I'm still probably gonna get raped
Signed,
Limited
Trample plz?
Anyway, very decent card, having half of Karador's abilities, and a very decent P/T for its cost (or, rather, reduced cost).
While it's in need of trample, it definitely isn't terrible as is.
Ah Intro Rare, I get it :)
and that's just in GREEN alone.
Green, Black, and Blue will make some kind of awful monster doom from hell deck that manages to grant Undying to Skaab Ruinator or some *** like that.
I'm also not fond of Knowledge Pool and Rooftop Storm being in the same Standard. seriously, this is going to break somewhere. I can't believe it hasn't yet.
*sniff* pity i didn't manage to find that Fling during the pre-release.. T^T
Unnatural predation is still in, though, so that's a plus.
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I love the unalligned colors that don't get a lot of actual support outside of the lands and your atypical flashback like the awsome Spider Spawning.
This guy stays the same 10/10 all the time, even if your graveyard gets exiled or shuffled... solid card in dedicated decks.
5/5, for so much Johnny-Spike win.
a)if you are drawing it on turn ten, who cares if it's only {G}?
b)it doesn't get shut down by nihil spellbomb, etc
c) why doesn't it have TRAMPLE!!!!!!
3.5/5
think about that. This thing can kick a few of the eldrazi's arse back to 3 kingdoms.
But still striclty worse than Storm Crow.
Sorry, I couldn't resist to post this...
One of the most efficient green fatties: no evasion, no trample, no protection, but *** CHEAP!
They're actually quite similar- big green vanilla beaters that are better with larger graveyards.
The main difference is the GY affects the power of 'Goyf, and the cost of Ghoultree.
Since 'Goyf will never be a 10/10 without outside help, Ghoultree is actually better mid-late game,
and with the right help (can you say "Dredge"?), you can get it out *almost* as early as Tarmogoyf.
Cheated in with Exhume or similar, Ghoultree wins again.
I'm not saying anything like Ghoultree is strictly better than 'Goyf-
It's just interesting how similar they are.
I always think of this as having trample. Because really, it's sad that it doesn't. Also it's a Treefolk Zombie. Wait, what?
I thought we were past the Racnica block already!
And then Wizards makes another easily broken card with that ability. Thanks Wizards.
By all means not it's best use, but if someone already has a Sutured Ghoul deck, why not give this guy a shot :P (if you also run green in it ofc, Golgari/Dredge comes to mind)
The people overestimating it fail to consider that it's NOT going to get cast for
As for those underestimating him...dude, it's a 10/10 that can cost as little as
I think the key to this guy is seeing him as more than just a 10/10 beater for cheap. Find a way to really make use of his P/T and he can serve as efficient fuel for your graveyard and sacrifice shenanigans.
I really hope to see this ability on many more cards. Maybe one day on an artifact?
Nemesis of Mortals gives me hope.
Leaf-Crowned Elder, and Rancor.
But, that might just be me!! ;)
@undeadrabbit affinity taught wizards a lot. they would never make a card like that again, unless it was really bad (like a 2/2 for 8)