You need huge amount of mana, for 5 5/5 Oozes you need 11 mana. Probably not worth it outside edh or something
chrishocker
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(6 votes)
Definitely a great scaling card. 3 mana gets you a 1/1 (scoffable), 5 mana gets you 2 2/2s (just below the curve), 7 mana gets you 3 3/3s (definitely above the curve) and more is even better.
thrallallmighty
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Good in a snake deck with sachi or a shaman deck you get 6 6/6 wery fast good card 4/5
Gezus82
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(4 votes)
Ha ha ha ha keeper of progenitus deck win an opening play i've done often enough:
I also think this spell is not that useful unless you can afford a good amount of mana. Then again, that's what this block is about. It might turn out to be better than it appears to be with all this mana accel around.
Donovan_Fabian
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Ooze token producer! Yes! Going to make a g/u/b deck with creeping tar pit, awakening zone, and this card. Awesome for no other reason that pure fun.
Despite what all the naysayers are saying, its still good at low mana, and in the current environment can still pretty easily get lots of mana to play it for more since the eldrazi taken around 10 and up too.
rsyd
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Thought this was going to be a really good card. Now very disappointed after reading the FAQ. Regret picking it.
GruesomeGoo
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0)(4 votes)
5 stars just for the name.
It's just so fun to say.
True_Mumin
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(5 votes)
Kinda good. If you have a bajillion mana. In which case, you should just cast Emrakul and win the game. I hate this set.
It seems like paying 7 mana for 3 3/3s is the most economical use of them. Getting to 9 mana to get 4 4/4s seems somewhat unlikely, though that said in this set we must always keep Eldrazi Spawn Tokens in consideration. If you've got a bunch of them plus a considerable amount of land this card could be positively deadly.......
Defender deck white/green/red : overgrown battlements , plus the vent sentinels , perimeter captain , rage nimbus etc... gets you the defense and when you got 4-5 wals with overgrown battlement , just pop the oozes and laught
this card is a good finisher , i love it
4/5
achilleselbow
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(2 votes)
I just want to say I played a draft today where I got to 13 mana and cast this for 6 6/6's...and still lost against a blue/white control deck. She cast Guard Duty on one of them, Smite on another, Regress on another, Domestication on my maxed out Ikiral Outrider to consistently block the fourth, kept blocking the fifth with a Guard Gomazoa, and cast Narcolepsy on the last. I couldn't freaking believe it.
Roy1138
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Has anyone considered or tried using Artificial Evolution with this card? I can see a benefit to getting 3 3/3 elves for eight mana.
MrBarrelRoll
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0)(7 votes)
Was watching a game where two newer players were borrowing my EDH decks, one with Jhoira and one with Omnath. The Omnath deck went like this:
Turn 1: Forest, Llanowar Elf Turn 2: Forest, then he shows me this card and Channel, and asks "does this work?" ...Genesis for 15x 15/15 ooze tokens Turn 3: WTFBBQ
Fastest EDH game winner I've yet seen. 5/5 for the very possible shenanigans.
sares321
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(2 votes)
Do you have to split the mana you paid 50/50? For example, if you played this and payed 10 for the X, could you choose to get 1 9/9, or 9 1/1s if you wanted to? Even though the combination that will result in the highest total is 50/50 (5 x 5 = 20), you may still want to get a lot of weak monsters, instead of a few strong ones.
Inameas
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Turn 1: meh. Turn 2: Harabaz Druid. Turn 3: Random ally for 2 mana. turn 4: hardcast Join the ranks, tap the druid for 4 blue mana and stick Crab umbra on him. Infinite mana. Infinite number of 100/100 oozes. You loozes.
chesster415
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0)(1 vote)
Turn 1: Forest, Llanowar Elf
Turn 2: Forest, Viridian Joiner
Turn 3: Umbral Mantle
Turn 4: Gelatinous Genesis
You do the math.
this card is amazing at first i used wolfbriar elemental in my elf mana ramp aggro deck and when i saw gelatinous genisis i had to put it in i can make way more creatures and make them much bigger my best game i had 12 10/10's turn 5 this card is amazing because with the same amount of mana i would've had 1 4/4 and 17 2/2's total damage dealt = 120 vs 38 ooze's win again. 5/5 from me.
One time my friends and I played a huge game with confusion in the ranks and my friend's "Siegetower Deck", which was basically a mashup of a whole bunch of decks that accidentally got smushed together...we were trading around Hand of Emrakul and some blue pingy wall...then I played Wild Evocation and accidentally murdered my friend with confusion in the ranks, and the other opponent had all the good creatures...then he played this and got 19 19/19's...fun stuff
MyrBattlecube
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
@sares321 Well, no one else seems to be answering this question, and I personally know several people who use this card wrong, so I'm going to make a nice convenient post stating how this card works, because it's not always immediately apparent.
Think of the mana cost here as a mathematical formula. CMC = X + X + 1. In these situations, the single variable, X, has to be one number, because X must equal X. Therefore, when you cast this card, you figure out what you want X to be, then you pay twice that amount along with an additional green, then this card goes on to the stack. If it resolves, you get ooze tokens equal to the amount you decided X to be, and they each have power and toughness equal to that number.
You cannot pay two different amounts of X to cast this card. You can't make, say, eight 1/1 Ooze tokens by paying 9G then drop a free Khalni Hydra. Math does not work this way.
ROBRAM89
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(1 vote)
7 7/7's for the price of Emrakul.
land_comment
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
My first Eldrazi rare. i still don't understand how to pay the cost, though.
bfugitive
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Picked up one for Teneb EDH. It's just kinda funny.
rawsugar
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
lol? how can this be below 4? noone knows how to create a decent mana pool?
iSlapTrees
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(5 votes)
so I can have 100 100/100s by using 200 mana + 1 green?
me likey :)
xanderao
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I got 17 mana with this, but was up against an army of 1/1s with Vigor on the field. I eventually used Triumph of the hordes to kill him.
Interesting, if I'm doing my math right, an opponent can kill all the creatures you've produced with this by paying one mana less for a Fireball.
TrueBloodWolf
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
So, the way this is read, that people continuously say "your reading it wrong" is this, X is EVERYTHING on this card, X is at minimun which gives 2 2/2 Slime tokens. X cannot be different amount when, so you HAVE to pay either , , , , ect...
So, paying you would get 8 8/8 creatures?
renaissoxx
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
thats not exponential growth its polynomial growth. exp growth is 2^n
ThisisSakon
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Currently working on a standard legal deck featuring this that lets you have 14 14/14's on turn six with a "god hand"
I'll post the link when I finish
Snafinturtle
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@TrueBloodWolf
To reiterate, you're reading it wrong. you need to pay each X with the same amount of mana, 8 mana spent would mean you spend 4 mana into each X (along with the additional green), thus X=4.
My personal favorite method to use this card is with a flipped Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant. Oddly enough, she IS an exponential card. i had 11 forests out and flipped her (rites of spring with 9 cards i hand, one of which was the genesis). 121 mana makes a nice set of 60 60/60s :D.
Mind you, that was EDH, and it`ll probably never happen in another format.
@Roy1138 If you are using artifical evolution, why not just name Allies? Then with a Kazandu Blademaster and a Kabira Evangel you would have a ton of pro-5 color fatties and most likely swing for lethal. And with a few Harabaz Druid this is not a difficult thing to pull off.
jcdrummer
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@Gelzo
I'm afraid you're not doing your math right. If I pay 17 total for Gelatinous Genesis and you wanted to kill all 8 8/8s, you would need to pay 73 mana total for your Fireball.
Paolino
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(1 vote)
for a 1/1 -> bad. for two 2/2s -> not good. for three 3/3s -> good. for four 4/4s -> best; needs elves. for five 5/5s -> very good; needs Gaea's Cradle. for six 6/6s -> needs Gaea's Cradle and Rofellos. for seven 7/7s -> needs Channel. for eight 8/8s -> needs more Channel, but very likely opponent concedes the game.
Totema
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
My friend played this once. He was able to build up a massive mana pool (thanks to Vorinclex and Caged Sun) and payed 9 for X. "So I put down 9 9/9s-" At which point I stood up and began slapping the table while shouting NEIN NEIN NEIN repeatedly. It was a memorable moment.
kyothine
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@Gelzo I think that's wrong. Suppose your opponent makes 3 3/3 tokens (costing 7cmc). You cast a Fireball to deal 9 damage (9cmc) divided among 3 targets (3-1 = 2cmc) for a total of 11cmc.
Tynansdtm
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0)(1 vote)
@Gelzo: Your math is very wrong, and Fireball is a terrible card. For the same mana as than the Genesis, you can kill all of the tokens with a Comet Storm. @BlurryMadness: Except you start at 40 life in commander, so you can spend 30 life for fifteen 15/15s just fine.
While unrelated; other combo decks during that age I had: -Goblin Tokens + Comet Storm + Mana Echoes -Living Death (Both Self-mill Slivers and Dredge Demons + Hellcarver) -Budget High Tide
mrchuckmorris
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@MrBarrelRoll Like ProsperoNight said, it's banned, for that very same type of shenanigans. Granted, being able to make 9 9/9s turn 2 in a non-EDH game is just as much of a game-winner...
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or a shaman deck
you get 6 6/6 wery fast
good card
4/5
an opening play i've done often enough:
turn 1: arbor elf
turn 2: harrow, 2X arbor elf
turn 3: 2x keeper of progenitus
now I have
turn 4: Gelatinous Genesis = 10 10/10 tokens
I also think this spell is not that useful unless you can afford a good amount of mana. Then again, that's what this block is about. It might turn out to be better than it appears to be with all this mana accel around.
Despite what all the naysayers are saying, its still good at low mana, and in the current environment can still pretty easily get lots of mana to play it for more since the eldrazi taken around 10 and up too.
It's just so fun to say.
....and then they play Day of Judgment
this card is a good finisher , i love it
4/5
Turn 1: Forest, Llanowar Elf
Turn 2: Forest, then he shows me this card and Channel, and asks "does this work?"
...Genesis for 15x 15/15 ooze tokens
Turn 3: WTFBBQ
Fastest EDH game winner I've yet seen. 5/5 for the very possible shenanigans.
Turn 2: Harabaz Druid.
Turn 3: Random ally for 2 mana.
turn 4: hardcast Join the ranks, tap the druid for 4 blue mana and stick Crab umbra on him. Infinite mana. Infinite number of 100/100 oozes. You loozes.
Turn 2: Forest, Viridian Joiner
Turn 3: Umbral Mantle
Turn 4: Gelatinous Genesis
You do the math.
Viridian Joiner + Umbral Mantle = infinite mana and one creature with infinite power and toughness.
Viridian Joiner + Umbral Mantle + Gelatinous Genesis = infinite mana and infinite creatures with infinite power and toughness.
or
Turn 1: Forest, Llanowar Elf
Turn 2: Forest, Viridian Joiner
Turn 3: Giant Growth, Umbral Mantle, Gelatinous Genesis
more cards but faster.
Well, no one else seems to be answering this question, and I personally know several people who use this card wrong, so I'm going to make a nice convenient post stating how this card works, because it's not always immediately apparent.
Think of the mana cost here as a mathematical formula. CMC = X + X + 1. In these situations, the single variable, X, has to be one number, because X must equal X. Therefore, when you cast this card, you figure out what you want X to be, then you pay twice that amount along with an additional green, then this card goes on to the stack. If it resolves, you get ooze tokens equal to the amount you decided X to be, and they each have power and toughness equal to that number.
You cannot pay two different amounts of X to cast this card. You can't make, say, eight 1/1 Ooze tokens by paying 9G then drop a free Khalni Hydra. Math does not work this way.
me likey :)
So, paying
I'll post the link when I finish
To reiterate, you're reading it wrong. you need to pay each X with the same amount of mana, 8 mana spent would mean you spend 4 mana into each X (along with the additional green), thus X=4.
My personal favorite method to use this card is with a flipped Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant. Oddly enough, she IS an exponential card. i had 11 forests out and flipped her (rites of spring with 9 cards i hand, one of which was the genesis). 121 mana makes a nice set of 60 60/60s :D.
Mind you, that was EDH, and it`ll probably never happen in another format.
I'm afraid you're not doing your math right. If I pay 17 total for Gelatinous Genesis and you wanted to kill all 8 8/8s, you would need to pay 73 mana total for your Fireball.
"So I put down 9 9/9s-"
At which point I stood up and began slapping the table while shouting NEIN NEIN NEIN repeatedly. It was a memorable moment.
@BlurryMadness: Except you start at 40 life in commander, so you can spend 30 life for fifteen 15/15s just fine.
can get to millions of damage, if the hydra is big enough.
think: 8192/8192 hydra (2^13), 200 200/200 oozes with omnath, stampede.
1654784 damage. without omnath. and you can actually do this around turn 20.
yeah, its not competetive, but amazing in casual.
This was one of my first casual combo decks (all budget) with Channel, Manaplasm, and Dawnglow Infusion.
While unrelated; other combo decks during that age I had:
-Goblin Tokens + Comet Storm + Mana Echoes
-Living Death (Both Self-mill Slivers and Dredge Demons + Hellcarver)
-Budget High Tide