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Final Judgment

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Final Judgment

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ttian
★☆☆☆☆ (1.9/5.0) (8 votes)
god is a giant snake thing?
spoonish
★☆☆☆☆ (1.6/5.0) (10 votes)
i think that might be progenitus up close...
Arachibutyrophobia
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (11 votes)
It's the Flying Spaghetti Monster!! Everyone, forsake your God(s)! Get out your platters of Spaghetti and worship Him for He has come!! :O
Paramecium302
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0) (5 votes)
Better than Wrath of God, cost a bit more, but you might as well wait for them to get all their good creatures out, then exile out of the game all together! In your face Gravedigger!
darkfury
★★☆☆☆ (2.4/5.0) (5 votes)
its not progenitus, Progenitus is a 5 headed hydra/god/planeswalker (they never do show his 5th head), each head of his practices one different type of magic.
Omenchild
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0) (6 votes)
WTF? PROGENITUS IS NOT A PLANESWALKER, OR EVEN A DEMIGOD IN MAGIC TARD
Gaussgoat
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0) (5 votes)
Certainly a power-house of a card; the trick to using it well is to shelter your own creatures off-board, I would think. Oblivion Ring one of your top guys, Final Judgement, then disenchant your O-Ring and bring the super-threat back on.

Aside from that, a powerful option in a deck that relied on delaying your opponent before some kind of sorcery combo or artifact finishes him off.

4/5
AXER
★★★★☆ (4.6/5.0) (7 votes)
Awesome art!
izzet_guild_mage
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (3 votes)
Wizards, please reprint this so I can bask in the pure awesomeness of its new wording!
Incidentally, this card is great. If speed is no issue, I'd choose this over Wrath 'most every time...
Maraxas-of-Keld
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0) (4 votes)
Exile all creatures. I would like to see this reprinted in some form, just so it has that text.
brunsbr103
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0) (7 votes)
I'm pretty sure that that's supposed to be O-Kagachi, a kami who was described as an immeasurably vast, eight-headed serpent with eyes that blazed like stars.

Also, there's one part in the kamigawa storyline where he just kind of eats most of a army (and some ground, too) in just one bite. It seems like that's what he's doing here, so it's safe to say that it's him, not progenitus.
SleetFox
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (3 votes)
This is one of the few cards that can get rid of creatures with the dynamic duo of indestructibility and shroud.

"Ha! I just cast Shield of the Oversoul and Clout of the Dominus on my Maelstrom Archangel! Taste 9/9 flying indestructible shroud haste free permanent action!"

...

*sobs*

OK, so there are probably more realistic situations where a creature will get both (my favorite is anything naturally indestructible + Diplomatic Immunity), but the point is a creature with both abilities is scary, and most people running the combination aren't going to expect anything to happen to their creature. This also destroys arcbound decks and a bunch of other things that don't mind when their creatures are destroyed. This card could be called situational, but there are a lot of situations where it's a MASSIVE unexpected disruption spell. At worst it's a slightly more potent Wrath of God for 2 more mana that works in control but not combo.
NeoSin
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (2 votes)
Progenitus is a god, it says so in a couple of cards. Planeswalker? Na. Reference: Relic of Progenitus
Messiah21
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0) (3 votes)
The Picture in the card is of O'Kagachi the greatest of all Kami's. If you can't dicern that from the text then you're raher slow, or if you didn't read the flavor texted perhaps you should check out Double Header and be sure the read that one's flavor texted. I'm glad someone did understand who it was otherwise I'd be very sad.
Belz_
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (3 votes)
The only card I know that can get rid of Progenitus permanently, on its own.

Love the art and the flavour, too.

One trick is to, say, exile your own creatures with Parallax Wave or Ghostway and then get rid of your opponent's with this.
PhyrexianLobbiest
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0) (5 votes)
Would I like to take out all 3 Eldrazi Titans with one card for 4 WW? Yes. Yes I would.
KarmasPayment
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0) (5 votes)
"The only card I know that can get rid of Progenitus permanently, on its own."
-Belz_

Lots of things can get rid of progenitus. Such as time stop or mindbreak trap, mass wipes that don't target, clones, and such. Plus, you don't usually need to get rid of him permanently, just get him shuffled again. Because most people like to just show and tell him into play. Consequently, I watched a hilarious legacy match, one show and tell'd progenitus into play, the other show and tell'd ensnaring bridge.
IshubarashI
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (5 votes)
I still don't believe this can take out progenitus, but if someone can prove it does I'd like to see it. It seems to me that since progenitus has protection from EVERYTHING, he also has protection from sorceries, as well as protection from cards specifically named Final Judgment, it just doesn't make sense that something with the ultimate protection can be taken out because a card doesn't specifically target them or deal damage
achilleselbow
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (4 votes)
This is a more reliable version of False Prophet for two more mana, but if you have a sacrifice outlet ready, the prophet is usually better.

@IshubarashI: I realize that actually reading the rules instead of speculating might be too much to ask, but how about at least looking up the card you're talking about before running your mouth off?

"2/1/2009 "Protection from everything" means the following: -- Progenitus can't be blocked. -- Progenitus can't be enchanted or equipped. -- Progenitus can't be the target of spells or abilities. -- All damage that would be dealt to Progenitus is prevented.
2/1/2009 Progenitus can still be affected by effects that don't target it or deal damage to it (such as Wrath of God)."

I swear to god, I'm so sick of hearing about Progenitus. It's the ultimate noob card. "ZOMG PROTECTION FROM EVERYTHING, THAT MEANS TOTALLY INVINCIBLE! I BETTER RUN OUT AND BUY 4 RIGHT NOW!!!"
Guest513736147
★★★★☆ (4.9/5.0) (31 votes)
If I hear someone say "Doesn't kill Progenitus" one more time, I am going to exile the world.
VoidedNote
★☆☆☆☆ (1.0/5.0) (1 vote)
@Guest

Are you going to return it to play under its owner's control at the end of the turn at least?
MrQuizzles
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0) (2 votes)
This is the ultimate in creature removal. There is no creature this card cannot take care of. Only phasing can protect a creature from this card, and phasing is both old and stupid.
Ratoly
★★★★☆ (4.9/5.0) (8 votes)
This exiles Progenitus. PERIOD. It also stops every creature-based combo (a la Platinum Angel/Emperion, Darksteel Forge/Shield of Kaldra, Whispersilk Cloak) in existence when paired with Quicken. Truly a card I would love to see reprinted. MAKE IT HAPPEN WIZARDS!

Also: That's O-Kagachi. The father of the spirit inside That Which Was Taken.
Teotanek
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0) (3 votes)
Oh, yeaaaaah O-kagachi punish those who stole that wich was taken !
Hayw00d0909
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (6 votes)
Whoa. White has balls afterall.
--Nate--
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (2 votes)
Ishubarashi: Protection, by definition, only affects spells that target the card with protection.

If you want to see the complete rules on protection, check out this link: http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Protection
Anggul
★★★☆☆ (3.4/5.0) (4 votes)
Nom.
non1337
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (21 votes)
You said there is no creature this card cannot take care of? I give you one:

Norin the Wary
Lord_of_Tresserhorn
★★☆☆☆ (2.4/5.0) (7 votes)
Beyond awesome. You can also hide your best creatures in the Safe Haven!

Anyway, kind of sad they did not make O-Kagachi into a card as well.

Here's my take:

O-Kagachi, Kami of the All

Rare
Casting cost: 5WhiteBlueBlackRedGreen
O-Kagachi, Kami of the All can't be countered.
If you play O-Kagachi, Kami of the All from your hand, it comes into play with a divinity counter.
When O-Kagachi, Kami of the All comes into play, exile all creatures.
O-Kagachi, Kami of the All is unblockable.
O-Kagachi, Kami of the All is indestructible.
At the end of any turn, remove a divinity counter from O-Kagachi, Kami of the All.
If there are no divinity counters on O-Kagachi, Kami of the All, you lose the game.
If O-Kagachi, Kami of the All were to be put into any graveyard from anywhere, shuffle it into your library instead.
12/12

So, same casting cost as Progenitus, a bit bigger, Final Judgment built in. I gave it unblockable and indestructible because it is the God of the Million Gods, come on! Unblockable also works against flash creatures or animatable statues. Library shuffle like Progenitus, but less powerful than the Eldrazi Titans.
I gave it the divinity counter clause to make it similar to Phage, The Untouchable - cheat it into play and you lose immediately. Also, it resembles Final Fortune in that it gives you one single chance to win (basically).
I did not give it protection from everything because then it would become almost totally unkillable. Now it can still be unsummoned, Pacified together with Vedalken Orrery, possibly prevented from attacking... At least some of these methods, like unsummoning it, imply that you will not lose if you do not win, and thanks to the creature board wipe, your opponent will also have to crawl back.

It combos naturally with That Which Was Taken, of course, and while the combo is powerful, it is prohibitivly expensive.

I also used Kamigawa-Block style wording - I hope. No entering the battlefield here.

Finally: Combos with Doubling Season!!! There, I said it.
Shadoflaam
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (2 votes)
@Lord_of_Tresserhorn
That's just horrible without haste.
luxma
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (2 votes)
@Lord_of_Tresserhorn
- I tap all my mana and cast O-Kagachi, Kami of the All; and I attack.
- I tap four mana and cast Fog, Odious Trow an Fate Transfer. You lose the game

I'd put it haste and shroud
dragonking987
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.8/5.0) (2 votes)
Exile all non storm crow creatures.
BlackAlbino
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.6/5.0) (4 votes)
Lord_of_tresserhorn
I've got a much simpler idea...
O-Kagachi, da boss
{10}{W}{U}{B}{R}{G}
No countering da boss
When you cast da boss exile all creatures ( just in case of platinum angel )
Phage clause
Da boss noms target player, then You win the ****ing game
1/1 ( why not =P )

I like it. It's a slightly more effective and efficient door to nothingness but whos gonna notice eh?
TotalDomination
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (10 votes)
i have an issue with this card. the wording "Remove all creatures from the game" is too general. the word "all" means ALL and the word "game' means that one duel out of a match (since each duel is considered a game). creatures in your hand, library, graveyard, and play are included in the word "all" due to it being so general. so pretty much from my understanding, "remove all creatures from the game" should of been "remove all creatures in play from the game". therefore, the card has been misleading and has been used incorrectly unless Wizards reprints it or posts an official ruling, as it has none right now. So in conclusion, this card removes all creatures from play, all hands, all libraries, and all graveyards from the game. also, i own one of these, a wrath of god, Armageddon, obliterate, a door of nothingness and a coalition victory. and their all in certain decks.
SpencerDub
★★★★☆ (5.0/5.0) (11 votes)
@TotalDomination - "so pretty much from my understanding, "remove all creatures from the game" should of been "remove all creatures in play from the game". therefore, the card has been misleading and has been used incorrectly unless Wizards reprints it or posts an official ruling, as it has none right now."

Sorry, but that's incorrect. Magic terminology is very specific. A creature card is only considered a creature when it's on the battlefield. When you're holding a Llanowar Elves in your hand, for instance, it's a creature card, not a creature, which is why your opponent can't Doom Blade or Unmake it, and why Hidden Horror asks you to discard a "creature card," not a creature. If a card, like Final Judgment, says "Remove all creatures from the game" (or "Exile all creatures," as it is currently worded), it only applies to creatures, not creature cards, which are the cards in your hand, your library, your graveyard, and in exile.

The card may have been used incorrectly, but that's not the fault of the game; rather, it's due to a misunderstanding of the rules and terminology of Magic.
GracefulInferno
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (7 votes)
So based on this card, I am convinced that the O-Kagachi would simply eat Progenitus if the two were to meet. Seriously, it'd be a five-second conflict. *nom* Done.
Pigfish99
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0) (3 votes)
For when you absolutely need to get rid of any creature threats in the room.
Also stops liliana vess's ultimate, but still. I'd say a 4/5, depending on the conditions.
Sironos
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0) (2 votes)
Wow, konda must really like nidestructability, when he is willing to kidnap the son of this guy O.O
A shame for Konda that indestructability won't save him from O-kagachi.
Axelle
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (2 votes)
@ Lord_of_Tresserhorn and BlackAlbino:
It should be exile all other creatures.
MisterAction
★★★★☆ (5.0/5.0) (12 votes)
Regeneration? Shroud? Persist? Unearth? Protection? Indestructible? Toughness exorbitantly above zero?

Final Judgment, the very best there is. When you absolutely positively got to kill every muthaf*cka in the room, accept no substitutes.
Purple_Shrimp
★☆☆☆☆ (1.0/5.0) (1 vote)
nice flavour text doods
axiobeta
★★☆☆☆ (2.9/5.0) (4 votes)
"om nom nom"
O-Kagachi
Atali
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Sadly, O-Kagachi was killed by his own child, who then took his place guarding the barrier between the mortal and spirit worlds, and was herself presumable killed by Nicol Bolas when he came to obliterate all trace and memory of the Umezawa line from existence.
Qoios-Mauryn
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0) (3 votes)
@001010011100101110: Dare I ask what creatures it cannot kill?
001010011100101110
★★★★☆ (4.9/5.0) (13 votes)
It was once said that Swords to Plowshare kills just about any creature in Magic, but the fact is, it can only actually kill 97.2737538% of all creatures as of this date.

Final Judgment, has raised that bar to 98.8385223% to date. Yay.


@Qoios-Mauryn
Creatures with unique abilities like Norin the Wary, and creatures with inherant Boomerang abilities like Arcanis. Mangara of Corondor can also be said to be immune, and many others. Although, once you play this, don't expect any creatures remaining - it's as a complete creatures boardwipe as you can get.
Totema
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (21 votes)
Dawn of the Final Day

---24 Hours Remaining---
TheWrathofShane
★★☆☆☆ (2.7/5.0) (6 votes)
This card looks like my ex girlfriend
godhood
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0) (4 votes)
O-Kagachi is Japanese for Storm Crow.
SgtSwaggr
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (2 votes)
Is that Progenitus in the picture? After all, this is one of the few things can can take care of it.
Zoah
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0) (3 votes)
Ah Kagachi... One of the two biggest things ever in magic that never got made.
(Yogmoth being the only other I can think of.)

Oh, and just because I'm making a deck around them:
Ghost council of Orzova survives this... As no one else has mentioned them.
IUHoosier
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0) (1 vote)
The art...
adrian.malacoda
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0) (7 votes)
"Hey, where did everybody go?" - Norin the Wary
Myrs
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (1 vote)
What all Day of Judgments wish they could be.
Jannissary
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (5 votes)
Sometimes my trips through the Random Card here on Gatherer lead me to interesting cards, to slices of Magic history, or to forgotten combo pieces begging to be played.

Sometimes, they're boring- like this card.

I like nothing about it. Even its art is ugly.
DarthParallax
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0) (4 votes)
Also of note, Progenitus, in both FTV:L and Conflux, actually fits in the card frame. Almost. Clearly that means he is tiny compared to this O-kaga-whatsisname-rape your face off-guy who blatantly doesn't. Pretty clear who's more powerful. The one with the bigger wang.
Sorain
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (5 votes)
Day of Judgement: When you need to kill everyone on the battlefield, judge them.
Wrath of God: When you need everyone to stay dead, have god judge them.
Final Judgment: When you need them to stay away forever, call O-Kagachi Energy

By far the single strongest answer to creatures, entire armies don't matter to it, protection, undying, persist, regeneration, indestructible, shroud, hex-proof, all are meaningless.

A functional reprint, or a straight reprint for that matter, would be greatly useful. Few other things answer indestructible creatures such as Myr/Darksteel Forge with such authority.
EyeballFrog
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (1 vote)
Everyone out of the universe, quick!

Also, I can't help but think Avacyn Restored would be an excellent opportunity to reprint this.
Sutebe
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (5 votes)
As of now, Norin has a friend which can stick with him after the final judgment. That friend is Misthollow Griffin.
SyntheticDreamer
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (10 votes)
And so, Norin the Wary won the Kami War and rode off into the sunset atop his Misthollow Griffin.
Kamishini
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (11 votes)
Progenitus: HAHAH! Nothing can kill me, for I AM PROGENITUS!!!

.....

O-Kagachi: Is that so?

O-Kagachi eats Progenitus

Final Judgment, for when you need the field GONE! Ahahaha! Love this card, as I did most of the Kamigawa set.
Raibys
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (3 votes)
Riftsweeper is going to have a lot of cleaning to do
j_mindfingerpainter
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (2 votes)
@ 001010011100101110 and Qoios-Mauryn: Don't forget about Storm Crow. To Storm Crow, Final Judgment is just a bad joke told by a worse comedian.

EDIT: Don't downvote me because you don't understand the power of Storm Crow jokes.
LegoLeonidas
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Hmm... Run this with a crap ton on Manlands, and Kaldra's set. Play Final Judgement to wipe the board, pop out your Kaldra token, activate your manlands, and swing unobstructed! Eldrazi, angels, Progenitals? All gone! I might even consider running a mass removal deck...
LordOfTheFlies87
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0) (7 votes)
Reprint in core please.

OR...even better...

Return to the Kamigawa plane. PLEASE!
Destroy2777
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (1 vote)
The end. Of ALL living.
LordRandomness
★★★☆☆ (3.4/5.0) (4 votes)
Wait...those things in the bottom of the art aren't a forest...they're an army!
demidracolich
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (1 vote)
@Arachnos: Misthollow Griffin.
Arachnos
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0) (2 votes)
I guess O-Kagashi must be the most powerful thing in the history of Magic, because I can't think of any single creature that survives this. Protection from everything? It does not target. Indestructible? It exiles. Persist, Undying? It exiles. Unless there is a creature with "cannot be exiled", I can't think of anything at all that survives that... except Norin.
Lifegainwithbite
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (2 votes)
An answer, once and for all to Avacyn, Angel of Hope.
mdakw576
★☆☆☆☆ (1.0/5.0) (1 vote)
In any WB EDH deck, merciless eviction is almost strictly better
Villainous1
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (6 votes)
And then there were none.
ViashinoWizard
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (4 votes)
I want to see this reprinted without flavor text, just so we can have "Exile all creatures" in the center of the text box a la Day of Judgment.
Reishyn
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (3 votes)
A very exuberant way of saying, "You done f**cked up, Konda!"

Ironically, this card exiles Konda, Lord of Eiganjo as easily as any other card.
Xycolian
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Swing a gavel in an authoritative fashion whenever you cast this card.

If you do so, blue players won't have the nerve to counter this spell.
Nagoragama
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It needs to be reprinted, no flavor text, just, in the middle of the text box, "Exile all creatures."
Croesus
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I don't get why people want to see this re-printed as 'exile all creatures', 'remove from the game' always felt so much more powerful than exile to me.

Also, this should have been in Modern Masters.
Cosumel
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Oh what fun I could have with this and a Reality Ripple
BlazeB75
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Is that Kingseeker Frampt? O.o
ScytheWrath
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
You guys are all talking about how Final Judgement can and can't exile Progenitus, but what you don't understand is that O-Kagachi (the creature in the art from Final Judgement) IS Progenitus!
The flavor text from Progenitus is "The Soul of the World has returned," and some info on O-Kagachi taken from the MTG Salvation Wiki states that, "It was the soul of the world, the very first kami, as old as the plane itself."
It also says at the end of O-Kagachi's story that he was eventually defeated, and so that would explain how he has returned - even if he returned in a different plane, in a different form.
Is it not absolutely amazing that WOTC made this connection between planes, over (about) 5 years, and no one noticed?!?! Progenitus is just Final Judgement in creature form!!!

If this was common knowledge, could someone please inform me? This just blew my mind, especially figuring it out myself.
Bobth
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
ScytheWrath:

http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Progenitus
http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/O-Kagachi

Progenitus is the soul of Alara, O-Kagachi is the soul of Kamigawa. They each have storylines totally tied to their own planes. From what I can tell each world has its own soul.