Nice in mono-green ramp (that devotion is very easy to reach), but I feel the lack of giving herself trample hurts.
MadMethod
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0)(7 votes)
This plus her bow is nasty. Trampling deathtouchers only need to deal one damage before going over, so most of it will be taken from the opponents lifetotal.
SpaceMagic
★☆☆☆☆ (1.8/5.0)(2 votes)
A sick card with equally amazing art, but...I find it funny that the cargo ship-sized bow she's holding doesn't allow her to shoot things out of the sky. Like, you know, most every other archer in Magic's history.
anotherfan321
★★★☆☆ (3.4/5.0)(5 votes)
While I may not be as excited about her as I am about the gods in the other colors, she does provide a much more interesting option for EDH decks that want to run Primal Rage, but find it too boring.
Arachibutyrophobia
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0)(3 votes)
despite unexciting abilities, she could be the best god only because green is the easiest color to amass devotion in
.Blaze.
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(3 votes)
I think this is better than people are giving it credit, but it still the second worse God imo.
AncientTimer
★☆☆☆☆ (1.0/5.0)(2 votes)
PV summarized Nylea well in his CFB preview: "Nylea is somewhat underwhelming, since a 6/6 for 4 is not even that good for green these days, and the pump ability is laughably bad."
Nucleon
★★☆☆☆ (2.6/5.0)(6 votes)
As usual, Green gets the shaft on the surface, though I think there's more to be said for an easily-played Indestructible 6/6 that gives the dorks you used to make her a creature trample. The pump ability is pathetic, but she's an effective whupstick.
Still not terribly impressive though. Let me remind you all that this character is a FRIGGING GOD. Not an angel surrogate who gets stuck in a moon-chunk for 2/3s of the block, not a demon masquerading, not a Nephelim, and not some sort of flying pasta mountain. Capital-letter GOD. I really wasn't impressed with the cycle overall, and Nylea is emblematic of the issue:
They wanted the Gods to be playable. So they couldn't make them have huge mana costs and jaw-dropping abilities. I think it was a mistake to not make the God cycle we've seen at this point eye-popping with unique, never-before-seen abilities. Not necessarily overpowered Baneslayer garbage, but I mean things that did something genuinely new.
I mean, Nylea's a hunt goddess. Couldn't they have given her a "GGG: Target creature you control fights another target creature" sort of thing, at least? That'd be a huge effect in Green decks and still captures the predatory flavor.
pedrodyl
★★☆☆☆ (2.2/5.0)(4 votes)
I noticed most of the Gods "combo"-ed with their weapons, and rightfully so. Especially this and Purphoros
Tiggurix
★★★☆☆ (3.6/5.0)(6 votes)
I find it kinda dumb that she doesn't get Trample herself. Same with Heliod not getting Vigilance himself.
Purplerooster
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(1 vote)
This is better than what I admit to it being.
DarthParallax
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0)(13 votes)
DarthParallax's Disney Mythics Songs series got a LOT of good hits in Theros o.O But, between you and me....I will NEVER have a better place to post this one :O (And I absolutely love how this one's art looks next to certain a certain Hymn :O :3 )
You Think I'm an ignorantSavage? >:/ And you've 'walked so many planes that, I guess it must be so. -_- But still I cannot See If the Veiled one is me *How can there be so much that you don't know?* :P You Don't Know ...
You Think you own whatever land you land on That mana's just a dead thing you can Claim! :| But I Know every Plains and Swamp and Forest \ -_- / Has a LIFE, has a SPIRIT, has a NAME
You think the only Tribal decks are Tribal- Are the Tribal decks with creature types like yours! o_o But if you'd followed footsteps of a Changeling You'll learn things you never knew you never knew @.@
Have you EVER HEARD the Watchwolf cry to the TOURACH's MOON? Or ASKED the Grinning Demonwhy he grinned? Can you SING with all the Voices of the Mountains? Can you paint with all the Colors of the Wheel? Can you paint with all the Colors of the Wheel? (yeah, I went there! XD)
Come RUN the Hidden Backwoods of the thickets! Come taste the Sunsweet berries of the Earth Come Roll in all the riches Greed all around you! And for ONCE, never WONDER what they're worth? :) ^(Mox RubyMox SapphireMox PearlMox EmeraldMox Jet)
The Brainstorm and the River are my Brothers >:O The Heron and the Otter are my Friends! And we are all connected to each other Story Circle, in a hoop that Never Ends----!
How High will Boseiju grow? If you cut it down, Then You'll Never Know!!! And you'll NEVER HEAR THE WEREWOLF CRY to the Tourach's Moon
For whether we are White, Blue, Black, Red or Green skinned! We need to sing with all the Voices of the Island! We need to paint with all the Colors of the Wheel.
You can own at Worlds, Standstill! All you'll own is Earth UNTIL You can paint with all the Colors of the Wheel.....
Goatllama
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0)(8 votes)
Not reach? I mean, I know it's not as powerful as trample, but everything points towards it.......
TomTomat
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(14 votes)
About the Gods, there's just this one thing I need to say.
During the pre-release just a day ago, I got this chick, her bow, and Thassa. Now that looked facking sweet, I was obviously playing UB. And so, in one of the matches, I actually got all these cards out on the board, and guess what? I lost really hard. Because even though that scry 1 was really nice, and being able to give myself 3 life each turn was decent; If you don't get something to back these dudes up it's over. The Gods and their weapons are powerful, but not on their own. And it really showed. I got smashed several times by minotaurs and giant foxes, even though I had Legendary Mythics on the board and they only had commons.
And that makes me very happy.
HotHit
★★★☆☆ (3.4/5.0)(4 votes)
She may appear weaker than a lot of the Gods. But she gives a ramp deck a lot to do with its spare mana and with burning-tree emissary in standard? Here's a turn 4 with her for you: attack with 4/4 experiment one, 2/2 emissary, 3/1 brushstrider and 4/3 Renegade Krasis all with trample. Not even removing the emissary or Krasis will stop Nylea from being an indestructible 6/6 clogging up the ground.
Purphoros can also play with Emissaries, but Nylea doesn't need to go into another colour to enter the battlefield herself on turn 3.
NobuTheBard
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
Works great along with her blandly named weapon of choice, Bow of Nylea. Green shouldn't have any problem getting a measly five green mana icons on the board.
Definitely going to replace Primal Rage in my EDH decks, but I think I'll keep Brawn still.
This is a bit disappointing. As a Greek-inspired deity, she should have either more or less clothing than that. Ability-wise, give her access to Leatherback Baloth with backup from Kalonian Tusker and I see potential for fun.
TheWrathofShane
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0)(3 votes)
So giant archers cannot block flying, but tiny archers can?
I was looking at the card, and I need official clarification. If it's a creature does it lose the subtype enchantment. the ruleings where not clear on that
Mockingbird_UK
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@ CylockXIII:
Enchatment is a type, not a sub-type, and no she doesn't.
Barring any effects but her own, she's always a Legendary Enchantment, and sometimes she's a Legendary Enchantment Creature with sub-type God.
j_mindfingerpainter
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@Tiggurix: It is dumb, but my guess is it's Wizards trying to balance the gods.
If you could block after attacking with Heliod, he would be superior to the other gods in combat. If Nylea could deal "lethal" damage to less tough of a god and trample a couple points over, she would be superior.
I get the idea that Wizards is trying to force a "nuclear deterrence" strategy on us in god-on god scenarios: I don't attack you with my god because I know after yours blocks mine, your god will pwn me.
MagicalHacker
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It goes without saying that Bow of Nylea is beast with her, but the best use of her as a commander I think uses something similar as a combo.
We all know that deathtouch and first strike/double strike are scary together, but throw in trample and you've got a great deck.
With her, get deathtouchers, first/double strikers, and cards that give those abilities to creatures you control.
Other than that, there is another card that goes really well with her: Mossbridge troll. 25/25 Trample for 7 mana? Suuuure.
SnesController
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
I just think she could have been an A+ tier god if only her ability gave +3/+3. Even if they had to change the mana cost a bit, add another green symbol or something. +2/+2 for four mana? That's just so lacking.
Phelplan
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
To all the people complaining about her not having reach or not giving herself trample: Think about this from a flavor perspective. The gods are not powerful without their followers and devotion is how we represent that. They are lucky they are able to take on physical form at all and even then don't really have any abilities of their own. They are indestructible because they don't have regular fleshy bodies. They depend completely on their followers to have what little they do have. So it makes sense to me that their "bodies" are indestructible and vanilla at best.
And while technically, yes, she is a godESS. Haven't you guys noticed that WotC likes to streamline things and make them simpler when possible?
Smokingpapyrus
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
So she's a trample giving 6/6 4-drop mana sink. Yeah I think I can find a place for that in my green deck.
Yodha
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The only magic card where we see Avatar in action... outside of the movie.
TheWallinator74
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I think the pump effect may be a bit overcosted, but you could always just use her for the trample effect, which is fine with me. I do so enjoy a Primal Rage that's harder to destroy and has the ability to get up and kick ass.
Dr.Pingas
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
God is the species name. Goddess is the gender designation. A lioness is still a lion. A goddess is still a god.
Hunter06
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Man... Her foil sucks...
The card however is pretty good, not as good as some of the other gods but better then Heliod at least. overall shes about mid level for the gods good, but not great
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Still not terribly impressive though. Let me remind you all that this character is a FRIGGING GOD. Not an angel surrogate who gets stuck in a moon-chunk for 2/3s of the block, not a demon masquerading, not a Nephelim, and not some sort of flying pasta mountain. Capital-letter GOD. I really wasn't impressed with the cycle overall, and Nylea is emblematic of the issue:
They wanted the Gods to be playable. So they couldn't make them have huge mana costs and jaw-dropping abilities. I think it was a mistake to not make the God cycle we've seen at this point eye-popping with unique, never-before-seen abilities. Not necessarily overpowered Baneslayer garbage, but I mean things that did something genuinely new.
I mean, Nylea's a hunt goddess. Couldn't they have given her a "GGG: Target creature you control fights another target creature" sort of thing, at least? That'd be a huge effect in Green decks and still captures the predatory flavor.
But, between you and me....I will NEVER have a better place to post this one :O
(And I absolutely love how this one's art looks next to certain a certain Hymn :O :3 )
You Think I'm an ignorant Savage? >:/
And you've 'walked so many planes that,
I guess it must be so. -_-
But still I cannot See
If the Veiled one is me
*How can there be so much that you don't know?* :P
You Don't Know ...
You Think you own whatever land you land on
That mana's just a dead thing you can Claim! :|
But I Know every Plains and Swamp and Forest \ -_- /
Has a LIFE, has a SPIRIT, has a NAME
You think the only Tribal decks are Tribal-
Are the Tribal decks with creature types like yours! o_o
But if you'd followed footsteps of a Changeling
You'll learn things you never knew you never knew @.@
Have you EVER HEARD the Watchwolf cry to the TOURACH's MOON?
Or ASKED the Grinning Demon why he grinned?
Can you SING with all the Voices of the Mountains?
Can you paint with all the Colors of the Wheel?
Can you paint with all the Colors of the Wheel? (yeah, I went there! XD)
Come RUN the Hidden Backwoods of the thickets!
Come taste the Sunsweet berries of the Earth
Come Roll in all the riches Greed all around you!
And for ONCE, never WONDER what they're worth? :)
^(Mox Ruby Mox Sapphire Mox Pearl Mox Emerald Mox Jet)
The Brainstorm and the River are my Brothers >:O
The Heron and the Otter are my Friends!
And we are all connected to each other
Story Circle, in a hoop that Never Ends----!
How High will Boseiju grow?
If you cut it down, Then You'll Never Know!!!
And you'll NEVER HEAR THE WEREWOLF CRY to the Tourach's Moon
For whether we are White, Blue, Black, Red or Green skinned!
We need to sing with all the Voices of the Island!
We need to paint with all the Colors of the Wheel.
You can own at Worlds, Standstill!
All you'll own is Earth UNTIL
You can paint with all the Colors of the Wheel.....
During the pre-release just a day ago, I got this chick, her bow, and Thassa. Now that looked facking sweet, I was obviously playing UB. And so, in one of the matches, I actually got all these cards out on the board, and guess what? I lost really hard. Because even though that scry 1 was really nice, and being able to give myself 3 life each turn was decent; If you don't get something to back these dudes up it's over. The Gods and their weapons are powerful, but not on their own. And it really showed. I got smashed several times by minotaurs and giant foxes, even though I had Legendary Mythics on the board and they only had commons.
And that makes me very happy.
That's just one curve aiming for turn 4. Elvish mystic, Emissary, Domri Rade, Nylea.
Experiment 1, Emissary, Sylvan Caryatid, another turn 3 Nylea.
Mystic, Emissary, Bow of Nylea, Nylea herself.
Sedge scorpion, Satyr Hedonist, the bow, Xenagos, the reveler, turn 4 Nylea with style.
Purphoros can also play with Emissaries, but Nylea doesn't need to go into another colour to enter the battlefield herself on turn 3.
Definitely going to replace Primal Rage in my EDH decks, but I think I'll keep Brawn still.
The god cards are going to warp EDH a bit. They're sure to be popular. There's five already, with ten more to come. Dealing with Indestructible Enchantment/Creature things is going to require effects like, for example, Sever The Bloodline, Ashes to Ashes, Tragic Slip, Swords To Plowshares, Dispatch, Erase, Fade into Antiquity, Karn Liberated, Duplicant, or Legacy Weapon.
Ability-wise, give her access to Leatherback Baloth with backup from Kalonian Tusker and I see potential for fun.
-Swag_Crow
Enchatment is a type, not a sub-type, and no she doesn't.
Barring any effects but her own, she's always a Legendary Enchantment, and sometimes she's a Legendary Enchantment Creature with sub-type God.
If you could block after attacking with Heliod, he would be superior to the other gods in combat. If Nylea could deal "lethal" damage to less tough of a god and trample a couple points over, she would be superior.
I get the idea that Wizards is trying to force a "nuclear deterrence" strategy on us in god-on god scenarios: I don't attack you with my god because I know after yours blocks mine, your god will pwn me.
We all know that deathtouch and first strike/double strike are scary together, but throw in trample and you've got a great deck.
With her, get deathtouchers, first/double strikers, and cards that give those abilities to creatures you control.
Other than that, there is another card that goes really well with her: Mossbridge troll. 25/25 Trample for 7 mana? Suuuure.
Think about this from a flavor perspective. The gods are not powerful without their followers and devotion is how we represent that. They are lucky they are able to take on physical form at all and even then don't really have any abilities of their own. They are indestructible because they don't have regular fleshy bodies. They depend completely on their followers to have what little they do have. So it makes sense to me that their "bodies" are indestructible and vanilla at best.
And while technically, yes, she is a godESS. Haven't you guys noticed that WotC likes to streamline things and make them simpler when possible?
The card however is pretty good, not as good as some of the other gods but better then Heliod at least. overall shes about mid level for the gods good, but not great
3.5/5 Stars