Would it hurt too much if it was {1} cheaper ? If it has to be worse than dark ritual, let it do one or two damage to you or something, maybe even three damage, but like this... Don't know how much play will this card see. The art is nice, though.
some comments seem harsh on this - i think it'll see quite a bit of play in combo decks
tenkaze
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0)(6 votes)
So, in Kamigawa, they added the Arcane type to a well-known card, and usually upped the cost or otherwise nerfed it. Then, it would stand to reason that removing the Arcane type would make a card cheaper, right? ... Right?
Shock gains the Arcane type and a Splice ability, and becomes the more-expensive Glacial Ray. Boomerang gains the Arcane type and becomes a Sorcery instead of an Instant, and is Eye of Nowhere. Desperate Ritual loses the Arcane type and Splice ability... and costs the same. :(
Wratharrow
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
is this the red dark rit? hmmmmmmmmmm
OpenSeasonNoobs
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(6 votes)
Is everyone forgetting how awesome these cards are for storm decks...? Dragonstorm turn 1 is even more possible with 16 different mana ramps, it's quite possible to blow up with more than 3 ramps, pulling 4 dragons out. This card has great combos, and Desperate Power will be cycling out of extended soon.
Kryptnyt
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Desperate had Splice onto Arcane, which means you can get card advantage out of the deal.
This is a rather underpowered ramp, i'd take an end of opponent's turn Spawning breath first. Seething Song, I think, is perfectly balanced and core set material.
Shell_shockkun
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(2 votes)
In the end it's' one mana for one card in hand...
not really useful outside of a storm useage but, storm isn't in standard
and if you're not playing standard then there are much better options,
@skew
Woah would that be a cool card!
So much flavor, R for RRR
we all know how powerful dark ritual is though, so make it hit you for like...
10 and call it Playing with Fire
...
I want it...
This is just insulting. Why give us this over rite of flame or seething song? Or maybe make it cost R plus sac a land, so we don't get a red dark ritual, but it would still be better than this crap.
I have a very good feeling that this janky ritual is the reason that my best friend Ball Lightning didn't get reprinted (so as to prevent him from coming out on turn two). For that reason alone, I don't like this card.
niallcmurray86
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Its ok, but why do you tease Wizards? Just give me a red Dark Ritual. I can handle it.
dragon504
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Card should have cost only (R) or given you (R)(R)(R)(R).
JaxsonBateman
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
This card, as a whole, is pretty bad (at least in standard, except for perhaps very precise strategies that require that extra mana in the first couple of turns). However, what I like about the card is that it's almost an unexpected counter for Mana Leak. You have 5 untapped lands, you're playing against Ux, they have two untapped lands (including one that provides blue mana), and you know the Ball Lightning in your hand can win you the game.
"I cast Ball Lightning" "Mana Leak. Hahaha, nice try." "In response I cast Pyretic Ritual." *Gob smacked*
Of course, one spell that can only really counter one other spell isn't that great (admittedly it has versatility, but despite its acceleration it's still card disadvantage), but it could prove useful at some point.
darkfury
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(2 votes)
i agree, this should be R: add RRR to your mana pool, ~ deals 2 damage to you. because as is, this is a worthless card that doesnt generate a large enough boost to be worth it.
DGice
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I wish I could play 8 of these in standard,'
T1 birds of paradise of llwonar elves
T2 pyretic ritual into ruinblaster
T3 melt terrain
T4 roiling terrain
Can you say mana screwed for game.
gwydion9
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I dunno, a card for one additional mana does not seem like a very good trade. If this were just one mana cheaper, it would be awesome.
DacenOctavio
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Hey, this lets you get out 4 Goblin Guides by turn 2.
ZuesAscendant
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
This plus Koth...there's a combo there somewhere. Subpar on its own
Rite of Flame adds at least 1 mana, sometimes more. Pyretic Ritual is situationally better because it is an instant, but then you might as well use Desperate Ritual for the exact same role.
TreeTrunkMaster
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
With this you can cast Seething Song and go from 2 mana to 5, but that's only if you draw them both and then your hand just got a lot smaller to get out some other card.
This is very bad. The only good part about it is that its one more mana ramp to add to a dragonstorm deck. Other then that, 1 extra mana for the loss of a card is a really bad deal. MABY a good use would be for putting it into a 2 or 3 color deck, and using these to get out cyclops gladiator. Even so its still a horrible card.
On the top of my head, solutions that would make this appropriate for the core sets. Maby add a cantrip to it, but then again that would make it overpowered and leave no reason not to add 4 of each to every deck with red, so thats just a horrible thought... Could simply make it add , I think that would be fair and make this allot better. Or a Dark Ritual?? XD
Like so many have said before, the only thing wrong with this as it has already been done and done better. what it needed was to cost {R}{R} and return {R}{R}{R}{R} since in most cases people are only using red mana to pay for this anyway. Or we could have made it a Tribal Instant - Elemental and comboed it with Brighthearth Banneret thus removing the 1 colorless mana in the cost and making it a (situational) Dark Ritual in red. But that might imply that it should have been printed in Lowyn or Morningtide. Or they could have added a clause at the end saying that if you control 2 or fewer lands then it costs {R} rather than {R} + 1 other.
I mean no offense to those in the team that thought this was a good idea, but it could have been done so much better.
DoragonShinzui
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
People seem to forget the instant speed. The ability to leave two mana open to counter a Mana Leak? In red? Priceless.
Axelle
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Should've added more mana under a certain condition, like Cabal Ritual.
But still, this card isn't bad. Just look at Modern UR Storm.
kazenpaus
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Come on, people, they can only use whole amounts of mana in black-border land. If they reduced its cost, it would be Planar Chaos' version of Dark Ritual.
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but outside t2, its just a bad desperate ritual
Shock gains the Arcane type and a Splice ability, and becomes the more-expensive Glacial Ray.
Boomerang gains the Arcane type and becomes a Sorcery instead of an Instant, and is Eye of Nowhere.
Desperate Ritual loses the Arcane type and Splice ability... and costs the same. :(
This is a rather underpowered ramp, i'd take an end of opponent's turn Spawning breath first.
Seething Song, I think, is perfectly balanced and core set material.
not really useful outside of a storm useage but, storm isn't in standard
and if you're not playing standard then there are much better options,
@skew
Woah would that be a cool card!
So much flavor, R for RRR
we all know how powerful dark ritual is though, so make it hit you for like...
10 and call it Playing with Fire
...
I want it...
Turn 2 rootbound crag, tap your two lands and cast a pyretic ritual and now you are free to cast anything for 4 mana...
i'm thinking along the lines of turn 2 sarkhan vol or demolish then next turn hardcast roiling terrain.
"I cast Ball Lightning"
"Mana Leak. Hahaha, nice try."
"In response I cast Pyretic Ritual."
*Gob smacked*
Of course, one spell that can only really counter one other spell isn't that great (admittedly it has versatility, but despite its acceleration it's still card disadvantage), but it could prove useful at some point.
T1 birds of paradise of llwonar elves
T2 pyretic ritual into ruinblaster
T3 melt terrain
T4 roiling terrain
Can you say mana screwed for game.
But we're not referring to black, are we?
Turn one: Mountain+ Rite of Flame+ Pyretic Ritual+ Seething song+ GeoSurge+ Inferno Titan with one card and one mana leftover. Good enough for you guys?
Also, try this:
Turn 1 Mountain, Gitaxian Probe, Rite of Flame, Pyretic Ritual, Seething Song, Past in Flames, , flashback Probe, flashback Rite of Flame, flashback Pyretic Ritual, flashback Seething Song, Grapeshot, flashback Grapeshot.
On the top of my head, solutions that would make this appropriate for the core sets.
Maby add a cantrip to it, but then again that would make it overpowered and leave no reason not to add 4 of each to every deck with red, so thats just a horrible thought... Could simply make it add
Or they could just stick with seething song? Lol...
I mean no offense to those in the team that thought this was a good idea, but it could have been done so much better.
But still, this card isn't bad. Just look at Modern UR Storm.
Yay for Red Dark Rituals!!!
But yeah it's better..