When I saw this in the visual spoiler I knew immediately it would be my favorite myr. Easy infinite mana combo with 2 of this and 1 Palladium Myr.
Have fun comboing, it will be interesting to see how the standard metagame turns out in Scars
ClockworkSwordfish
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
In a dedicated myr deck, this plus Myr Matrix plus Door of Destinies or something could make Myr terrifying, brokenness aside.
StoicChampion
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0)(3 votes)
Combo-licious!
dragon504
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0)(7 votes)
This could've easily been printed as a rare, but I'm glad it wasn't.
Bandswithother
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Yes, turn 4 infinite mana is pretty obvious, but not broken. You need to draw two of them to begin with and someone is going to have a removal answer if they see what you're up to.
That's not to say I'm not excited about trying said combo.
If I can protect it enough to succeed then that's game.
If I don't have an answer to their removal then the myr are still strong in a late game where an opponent has already used their removal.
DonRoyale
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
I love how infinite mana is mentioned countless times, yet even though the card's been printed in the same set as Genesis Wave and Exsanguinate, even...nothing.
The former is just hilarious. Put my entire deck into play? Sounds pretty awesome!
roguepariah
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
@ DonRoyale , Dont forget Myr Propagator, just to keep the Myr theme going.
darkgnosis
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Most lords are 3 mana, but are very much sided with a particular colour. This is 3 colourless, so it instantly ranks higher in my opinion. Also, I have wanted a Myr deck for years, but have put it off. However, now that Mirrodin returns... it seems that the time has come :)
Chrome_Coyote
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Myr lord! Infinite mana! Time to make a Myr deck!
surewhynot
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Remember when infinite mana combos took...skill? Remember when they took some thought? Me too...This is a spit in the face of old school combos. And at a time when there are things in standard like Comet Storm, Fireball, Exsanguinate, etc. winning with this will be a joke. Seems like Wizards wants to do redo with Scars the damage that was done with the first Mirrodin. The Scars of Mirrodin won't heal, it seems.
Yes, I'd like to order infinite infinite/infinite hasted myrs, with a side of infinite mana.
SpencerDub
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Awesome card, awesome art. Looking forward to playing Myr in this set.
JenBroness
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0)(6 votes)
I'm thinking,
Turn 1 Forest, Arbor Elf Turn 2 Forest, use Elf for Palladium Myr Turn 3 Forest, Double Galvanizers Turn 4, Infinite Mana, mebbe X=50 Genesis Wave, loads of Eldrazi
That's 7 cards plus a delicate combo, so yeah - it's unlikely. But I like to dream about these things...
By the way there was a Type II infinite mana/myr combo with Myr Matrix and Mana Echoes, back in the day. Don't tell me this is any dumber than that.
Eternal_Blue
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0)(5 votes)
and this, ladies and gentlemen, is proof that wotc does not playtest their expansions beforehand. we all saw the infinite mana combo (and we haven't even played with the cards yet!). i know this is a good card but i have to give it a .5 simply because it hurts the game so much.
BlackAlbino
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
What are they doing? Well why didn't you just ask!?
They're making infinite mana, producing infinite myr propagator copies, and doing infinite damage with myr battlesphere. And yes, they're doing it very well indeed.
Yes, wotc realized this INF combo. They mentioned it briefly during preview week. But they also realized that just because it's winning via INF mana doesn't mean it's broken. After all this is VERY is easy to kill in scars. Plus you'll be getting this out turn 4 best case scenario, turn 5 or 6 more likely, w/ Simon sickness that means turn 5-7 inf mana. That seems to be about where most decks already finish the game. On top of all this, having inf mana doesn't automatically win you the game. You need something to use it for, and in the time it takes to get that ready on top off your combo prep time, you'll hav lost or thecombo will be crippled beyond repair. Then, you must also remember that if you want this to happen consistantly it will take up at least 12 card slots if not more. All in all, it's not even close to broken.
Daikoru
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(2 votes)
I can see how much he is hated. I had an opening hand with three of that creature. However, whenever I would play one, my opponent would Lightning Bolt it (or use a similar card). He destroyed all three of them, then I put a Myr Reservoir. I got one Galvanizer back in play, then he kills it again and use an enchant card to prevent me from returning the Galvanizer to my hand. When I got my second Myr Reservoir out, he was out of damage spells.
At least, all those 4 direct damage spells were not directed to me, it's a great bait. I never got to use the inifinite mana combo, but I still killed him with my Myr Battlesphere.
Anyway, I feel it would be so much more balanced if its ability would cost much more mana. This kind of ability should cost at least 5 mana, and considered the high ammount of mana Myrs, 5 mana is still generous.
Keiya
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I'm a bit surprised this wasn't printed as a Rare, given its lord-like properties, but it just means more fun for the Myr users. :D
Dragon23
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Galvanizer + mana Myr + Splinter Twin is awesome on all levels. A billion billion/billion hasty creatures is amazing. This card is amazingly versatile, and look forward to seeing it around coming up.
Gavrilo
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
That's one heck of the lord. Now if only we'd have more lovely myrs in the rest of the block...
And all this "ZOMG, INFINITE MANA !!!111eleven!!BORKEN!!!11!oneone" is just n00b detector, no more than lousy B-plan for mighty MYR BEATDOWN... or maybe MYR CONTROL.
nineyears
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
i like the mohawk
EvilCleavage
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I can't wait to get enough myr to make a MYRRODONE deck
The_Timsta92
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
t the next person to say "ZOMG IT COMBOS WIF PALLADIUM MYR" will be ensured a hideous death at my hands
No less than 5 stars from me! A myr lord that's uncommon and has infinite mana combo possibilities! Mr can finally become the tribe they were destined to be. I don't think this card is unfair BECAUSE the other tribes have so many rares to collect and myr don't have many rares at all so they need stuff like this to have a good fighting chance against...elves, merfolk, etc...
Sironos
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Have a feeling my infect deck will have many grand battles against these robots. Uncommon lords is just silly.
MrBarrelRoll
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(8 votes)
I want to make a Myr deck with the obvious infinite mana combo and then Razor Boomerang as the finisher.
penatbater
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I bought/made a myr deck from my friend's boosterbox outcomes and i can say that its really really slow. It suffers horribly to counters/red bursts because you desperately NEED to drop at least 2-3 myrs (either nomral or palladium) to get the combo starting. And even then, you die to one DOJ.
Granted though, the deck I made is block-restricted to only SOM cards. Gen wave and Exsa-something are some of my finishers though the infi combo takes forever to pull off I'm better with having a huge mana and just casting or swinging wtih Golem Artisan.
Jokergius
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@ClockworkSwrodfish: Well, Door of Destinies won't work with it FULLY, since you put a charge counter on the door for EACH spell of the chosen creature type...not like Coat of Arms.
But yeah... Zarakstan is right...infinite loop!! d^-^b
divine_exodus
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I'd love to see a myr deck vs. a sliver deck. The myr would probably win....
Lazyblazey
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The infinite mana this can generate is easy to see (I see you over there, Helix Pinnacle), but we shouldn't forget the endless untapping ability, either. Play a couple of Darksteel Myrs, get your Galvanizer/Palladium pieces ready, and when he least expects it, load up your Myr Shotguns with Furystoke Giant. The infinite mana feeds the endless tapping and untapping, causing you to shoot up everything your opponent has- creatures, planeswalkers, life total... everything. The end result will leave your opponent a cold, lifeless crater perfect for crying in.
Love this guy. I usually use 2 of these, 2 Myr that can produce mana and a Heavy Arbalest to instant kill my opponents.
Gene42
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Myr Galvanizer time 2 + Mana Myr + Myr Mindservant = infinitely shuffle your deck, the plan is to play with people older, then hope you have more patients for deck shuffling, OR if you have a particularly patient opponent take it into the years and hope youre healthier
Jackal_Master_FTW
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
turn 6 infinite combo with palladium myr and two, just use one than the other, and get as much colorless mana as much colorless mana as needed, ive found it great for emrakul...
dan110685
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
ok my myr deck could control all other myr decks with the combos i have lol
all i have to say is infinite myr, infinite mana, and no way you can do anything about it
if you get the myr for infinite mana i can make it where you cant do anything about it cant even use it
TPmanW
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(1 vote)
The effect is so good I run it in my changeling EDH deck. Lords are usually color intensive and don't stack well but this guy shatters that rule.
rinoh20
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
i swear i'm cursed. i want this card so bad so i can make a myr deck. everyone in my play group has one, no one wants to trade, and i've opened 20+booster packs without finding one.
zakando
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
i mean with the infinite mana combo+ heavy arbalest
Zarasel
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Two of this + Myr Battlesphere + Any Myr that can be tapped for mana = Unlimited Damage
.Blaze.
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
He's the reason I want to make a Myr deck. It would be so much fun.
Manaboy
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
if you add myr welder you can help get them out of the graveyard. so its like you have 8 in your deck. saves the bolt problem
Infinite combos are a pretty cheap shot, but this is still super useful as a tribal lord in an all myr deck.
ARandomMop
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
2 Myr Galvanizers 1 Mana Myr 1 of any other Myr w/ 1 Heavy Arbalest attached.
Hello infinite damage over infinite targets.
I'm trying the above out with some blue control to prevent pesky burn spells destroying my Myr and such. Should be interesting :3
agentvirgo
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
someone mentioned slivers vs. myr... why not have both? Just throw in a hivestone.
Macsen
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Good lord, I can't believe this isn't rare! I remember trying to make a Myr deck back in the day and deciding it wasn't worth it without myr incubator. Things have changed for the myr...
AngelPhoenix
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Too bad the infinite damage combo with the Battlesphere doesn't actually work. Bohoo.
The infinte mana combo sure does though. And though Palladiums are the best, you don't even really need them, just any two of the numerous one-ramp myr out there. Add the +1/+1 to all other Myr and you've got the stainless steel bolts that hold a great myr deck together. No reason not to run 4 of these in Myr Tribal.
And what is perhaps the best part, in my experience, is that your oppoents, when they see these, will often panic and go out of their way to eliminate any and all galvs you drop, which means they'll have nothing left to deal with your Battlespheres, Steel Overseers, or hell, even your Ichorclaws pumped up with Tempered Steels. Fantastic card.
SarpNasty
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I feel like this card is asking to be Restricted.
tialdfswntta
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
i always combo this with a palladium myr and an alloy myr (or two alloy myrs) for infinite mana of any color. pretty dank card IMO. definitely one of the best myrs in the Scars block.
BastianQoU
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
One of my favorite Myr themed decks uses Sphinx of Magosi and Golem Artisan, drawing whatever i need, hasting everything, and mass swarming. I think the fastest Inf. Combo win was with Heavy Arbalest on turn 5.
I've found that blue tends to work best with the myr (to my dismay, as i'm mainly a white mage), as unsummon and steel sabotage work wonders for protection, as well as bouncing myr battlesphere.
calibir
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(1 vote)
lol the one card war report would have a vastly different flavor text with two of these a pallidum myr and a myr propagator on the battlefield :)
JFM2796
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
i love how they made an infinite mana combo that is reasonably easy to pull of in limited.
NoobOfLore
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
And thus was born the easiest infinite mana/untap combo ever.
TherealphatMatt
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Not only is it a myr lord, but it fits perfectly onto the usual cost/p/t ratio (3 cmc, 2/2), it buffs your guys, is colorless, and has an ABSURDLY potent ability. 5/5
Whitewing
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Is the untap ability a targeting one or will it still affect myr with shroud?
Arachibutyrophobia
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
the card that combos with itself? and cards already in it's tribe? FFUUUU...
deadeye1387
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Easily a 5/5, for a CMC of 3 you can untap, boost, and adapt. It's the backbone of any Myr-based deck.
Dragonmaster3.0
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
2 of this plus Palladium Myr combo means Gleemax at turn 5!
adrian.malacoda
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@Whitewing
This doesn't target, so shroud won't affect it
AwkwardInvasion
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
.Splinter Twin. Instant victory, unless someone decided to fog this turn. or drop a doom blade. or something. But still endless fun.
MagicFreakJJ
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
Can you play it and tap it and untap other Myrs the same turn it comes out?
Lickmynt_Jr
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Welcome to the tribe of myr, the most broken tribe known to artifact.
Totema
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Want something to do with that infinite mana? Steel Hellkite works nicely. Swing with an Infinity/5!
DoragonShinzui
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Oh yes, because "untap all other myr" could never, ever be broken, Wizards.
blurrymadness
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Works best with Blue (like everything?) because of all of the copy effects. Much easier to get two into play when you can: A- Tutor them B- Copy them C- protect them.
Woolyer_Thoctar
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Love the flavor text!
Continue
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@MagicFreakJJ: Does it have haste?
Enelysios
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I love this guy. Opens up at least a dozen (decent) infinite combos, and is a lord for a fun tribal. I played myr before this card, but my deck really got turbo-charged when it came out.
Theevbomb
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Darksteel forge and prototype portal f your removal spells
Comments (70)
Have fun comboing, it will be interesting to see how the standard metagame turns out in Scars
That's not to say I'm not excited about trying said combo.
If I can protect it enough to succeed then that's game.
If I don't have an answer to their removal then the myr are still strong in a late game where an opponent has already used their removal.
The former is just hilarious. Put my entire deck into play? Sounds pretty awesome!
Dont forget Myr Propagator, just to keep the Myr theme going.
Yes, I'd like to order infinite infinite/infinite hasted myrs, with a side of infinite mana.
Turn 1 Forest, Arbor Elf
Turn 2 Forest, use Elf for Palladium Myr
Turn 3 Forest, Double Galvanizers
Turn 4, Infinite Mana, mebbe X=50 Genesis Wave, loads of Eldrazi
That's 7 cards plus a delicate combo, so yeah - it's unlikely. But I like to dream about these things...
By the way there was a Type II infinite mana/myr combo with Myr Matrix and Mana Echoes, back in the day. Don't tell me this is any dumber than that.
They're making infinite mana, producing infinite myr propagator copies, and doing infinite damage with myr battlesphere.
And yes, they're doing it very well indeed.
Yes, wotc realized this INF combo. They mentioned it briefly during preview week. But they also realized that just because it's winning via INF mana doesn't mean it's broken. After all this is VERY is easy to kill in scars. Plus you'll be getting this out turn 4 best case scenario, turn 5 or 6 more likely, w/ Simon sickness that means turn 5-7 inf mana. That seems to be about where most decks already finish the game. On top of all this, having inf mana doesn't automatically win you the game. You need something to use it for, and in the time it takes to get that ready on top off your combo prep time, you'll hav lost or thecombo will be crippled beyond repair. Then, you must also remember that if you want this to happen consistantly it will take up at least 12 card slots if not more. All in all, it's not even close to broken.
At least, all those 4 direct damage spells were not directed to me, it's a great bait. I never got to use the inifinite mana combo, but I still killed him with my Myr Battlesphere.
Anyway, I feel it would be so much more balanced if its ability would cost much more mana. This kind of ability should cost at least 5 mana, and considered the high ammount of mana Myrs, 5 mana is still generous.
And all this "ZOMG, INFINITE MANA !!!111eleven!!BORKEN!!!11!oneone" is just n00b detector, no more than lousy B-plan for mighty MYR BEATDOWN... or maybe MYR CONTROL.
Granted though, the deck I made is block-restricted to only SOM cards. Gen wave and Exsa-something are some of my finishers though the infi combo takes forever to pull off I'm better with having a huge mana and just casting or swinging wtih Golem Artisan.
But yeah...
Zarakstan is right...infinite loop!!
d^-^b
I usually use 2 of these, 2 Myr that can produce mana and a Heavy Arbalest to instant kill my opponents.
all i have to say is infinite myr, infinite mana, and no way you can do anything about it
if you get the myr for infinite mana i can make it where you cant do anything about it cant even use it
you can help get them out of the graveyard.
so its like you have 8 in your deck.
saves the bolt problem
Infinite combos are a pretty cheap shot, but this is still super useful as a tribal lord in an all myr deck.
1 Mana Myr
1 of any other Myr w/ 1 Heavy Arbalest attached.
Hello infinite damage over infinite targets.
I'm trying the above out with some blue control to prevent pesky burn spells destroying my Myr and such. Should be interesting :3
The infinte mana combo sure does though. And though Palladiums are the best, you don't even really need them, just any two of the numerous one-ramp myr out there. Add the +1/+1 to all other Myr and you've got the stainless steel bolts that hold a great myr deck together. No reason not to run 4 of these in Myr Tribal.
And what is perhaps the best part, in my experience, is that your oppoents, when they see these, will often panic and go out of their way to eliminate any and all galvs you drop, which means they'll have nothing left to deal with your Battlespheres, Steel Overseers, or hell, even your Ichorclaws pumped up with Tempered Steels. Fantastic card.
I've found that blue tends to work best with the myr (to my dismay, as i'm mainly a white mage), as unsummon and steel sabotage work wonders for protection, as well as bouncing myr battlesphere.
This doesn't target, so shroud won't affect it
A- Tutor them
B- Copy them
C- protect them.