Riku of two reflections can't do anything good with it (apart of a 2x1 for only +UG), as the effect occurs when cast (not ETB), isn't it?
EpicBroccoli
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Huge fatties ftw.
alucard311
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This guy is perfect in Devour of Power, as he has great abilities to be copied by The Mimeoplasm, and has huge power to buff any more relevant creatures available.
lorendorky
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Seems like a card that got planted into one of the decks that another pre-con wanted so you would buy them both :/
Kryptnyt
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(5 votes)
"We need more cards! We've run out of rare slots! Our curve is a little low! What do we do?" "We chuck in some of the commons and uncommons from Rise of the Eldrazi my friend!"
QuietK
★☆☆☆☆ (1.4/5.0)(5 votes)
@Mithrandir
The effect occurs whenever a creature enters the battlefield. So using Riku of Two Reflections, this gets a bit ridiculous.
Follow me here:
Using Riku and Doubling Season, pay eleven mana, and get back three creatures. Pay an additional six mana, and put out two copies of each of those creatures.
For seventeen mana, your board has 94 power, Annihilator 6, six additional lands, you play three lightning bolts at each players upkeep, and you have three Memory Plunder from the Chancellor.
With an additional six mana, whatever you brought out of your opponents graveyards can be copied using Riku, ensuring further devastation.
All of the above is done with twenty three mana.
Dragon23
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0)(2 votes)
@QuietK: No, that's not how it works, and Mithrandir is correct. Artisans ability triggers upon casting, not entering the battlefield, so even if Artisan is countered the ability will remain on the stack. If Riku copies an Artisan and you have a creature in the graveyard, you will end up with Artisan, an Artisan token, and the creature from the grave (you could pay more for a copy of that creature too, but I'll leave that to thought). Artisan's ability will only trigger on casting, so in no way if a copy is made will the copy trigger the ability. If we were talking about Karmic Guide or the sort, it'd be different, but it's all about being cast here.
C0nker4
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does playing him from your graveyard still count as casting him?
Radagast
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Still silly with Riku: Sure, you don't get to chose a second target for the Artisan token, but who cares? You can still end up with this monster, a copy of him, a creature from the graveyard, and copy of that for 13 mana, which is doable in Commander.
Great card, though obviously designed for formats like Commander or to be cheated in because of the huge casting cost. Downright strange power and toughness, too. I doubt there are any other 10/9's in the game.
Empathique1
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Cool thing, is that if he is countered while his ability is still on the stack, you can return himself with his own ability. Kinda like Demigod of Revenge in that regard.
MMT
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(1 vote)
@QuietK Artisan's ability only triggers when he is CAST, not when he enters the battlefield. Sorry to burst your bubble.
GrimjawxRULES
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@C0nker4: certain cards allow you to cast cards from your graveyard. In such an event, Artizan's ability would trigger, allowing you to put another creature onto the battlefield from your graveyard. Certain cards like Reiver Demon does not allow this though, as the rules text points out that you must cast it from your hand.
Dream_Twist
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I prefer pathrazer of ulamog to this, but if you can manage to get this into play without animate dead or some other witchcraft, it's a total beast.
SarcasmElemental
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Poor colossus of sardia
ArdentDawn
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This is going to be an awful lot of fun in a Simic Ramp deck using the Evolve cards. Transmute Grozoth to search for an Artisan, cast Artisan, revive Grozoth and trigger the effect of all of your Evolve cards twice while searching your deck for the rest of your Artisans and placing 18 Power's worth of creatures on the field for 12 mana. Even if you draw into Artisan without Grozoth, you should be running plenty of worthwhile high-Power/Toughness cards to trigger your Evolve cards for the Artisan to revive.
Hashbeth
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Though not 100% synergistic with the commander deck, it's still just a nice card. Graveyard recursion that can occur any in any deck that needs it, 10/9 body, easily splashable in a format like EDH, and Annihilator 2. Not super amazing, but enough of a threat to make someone have to deal with it quickly. It draws hate from the reanimated card.
Tsagaglalal
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Both good and bad, his ability is only when he is casted. This means that even when countered, you get a creature from the graveyard. On the other hand, many of the combos mentioned here wouldn't work. You only get a Zombify if you cast him; its not an etb effect. So it can only work for effects that say "you may cast a card" etc. or when you hard cast it from your hand.
Bbone37
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"Cool thing, is that if he is countered while his ability is still on the stack, you can return himself with his own ability"
I am almost 100% sure that this is not true. His ability triggers when cast, so he is not in the grave at that time to target himself. Your opponent would be able to counter it, but only after you put him on the stack, his ability on the stack, and chose and already-in-the-grave target. Unless I am entirely wrong, and again I strongly believe that I am not, he cannot recur himself since he is not in the grave when you choose his target.
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"We chuck in some of the commons and uncommons from Rise of the Eldrazi my friend!"
The effect occurs whenever a creature enters the battlefield. So using Riku of Two Reflections, this gets a bit ridiculous.
Follow me here:
Using Riku and Doubling Season, pay eleven mana, and get back three creatures. Pay an additional six mana, and put out two copies of each of those creatures.
Let's assume you brought back Primeval Titan, Chancellor of the Spires, and Magmatic Force.
For seventeen mana, your board has 94 power, Annihilator 6, six additional lands, you play three lightning bolts at each players upkeep, and you have three Memory Plunder from the Chancellor.
With an additional six mana, whatever you brought out of your opponents graveyards can be copied using Riku, ensuring further devastation.
All of the above is done with twenty three mana.
Great card, though obviously designed for formats like Commander or to be cheated in because of the huge casting cost. Downright strange power and toughness, too. I doubt there are any other 10/9's in the game.
Artisan's ability only triggers when he is CAST, not when he enters the battlefield. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Certain cards like Reiver Demon does not allow this though, as the rules text points out that you must cast it from your hand.
I am almost 100% sure that this is not true. His ability triggers when cast, so he is not in the grave at that time to target himself. Your opponent would be able to counter it, but only after you put him on the stack, his ability on the stack, and chose and already-in-the-grave target. Unless I am entirely wrong, and again I strongly believe that I am not, he cannot recur himself since he is not in the grave when you choose his target.