i was just about to asked about this, ok so i have some friends that are pretty skilled players and they tell me that tokens wont activate this, which i thought was stupid, plus i was a vid on youtube about this deck and it was one of the top ten in 2006 or 8, how could it place so high if it didn't work like that??? i just wont to get the skinny on it, so i guess my question is: Do tokens active graveyard triggers even though they cease to be once they hit the Gravyard?
thanks again
SIlverSkyz
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Tokens DO activate battlefield to graveyard effects.
The thing is tokens get removed from the game as a state based action, so many people get it mistaken as not even hitting the graveyard. In reality a token should be moved to the graveyard, then immediately removed from the game; so an acceptable shortcut is to just remove them from the game. This action, however, confuses some people.
Ideatog
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Yep, it works on tokens. Now, what I'd like to know is whether or not it works on non-creature cards which were creatures at the time they left play. Things like Ghitu Encampment and the other "man-lands". An what about enchantments animated by Opalescence?
My immediate reaction is no, but I've been wrong before.
Doowyeh
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Great with mortuary because the whenever you lose a creature it comes back into your hand. Used with a ornithopter or myr moonvessel sacrificed to ashnod's altar gives infinite mana!!! Add desciple of the vault and all your opponents die in one turn.
MrBarrelRoll
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Good lord, turns Eldrazi Spawn tokens into free card draws, any time, at instant speed.
Neat!
Tragico
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
No doubt. I couldn't figure out why Dragon Appeasement had such a ridiculous cost when Fecundity existed already. That is... until the Eldrazi Spawn were created. If this was legal outside of Vintage, it would probably be unbalanced.
I have been trying to find cool Fecundity interactions for casual decks for years. The problem has always been (1) making lots of creatures to sacrifice AND (2) having a good "sacrifice outlet" in play. Eldrazi Spawn solve both at once.
DacenOctavio
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Oh my god, this could replace Dragon Appeasement in my spawn deck. Then again, maybe not. I'd rather use this with Grave Pact and Underworld Dreams. If they try and draw cards, they'll get burned.
I can see this being absolutely bonkers with Eldrazi Spawn tokens, instant speed card draw in green? Yes please! Works wonders with anything that lets you put creatures into the graveyard, such as Bloodthrone Vampire (for example)...also works wonders with creatures that are going to the graveyard anyways, such as Groundbreaker and Ball Lightning. Fills your hand if your creatures get nuked by a Wrath of God as well.
NPRY2000
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
So I am going to Sack Cathodion to Alter of Dementia while Fecundity and Mortuary are in play, and put Fecundity's trigger on the stack first when Cathodion hits the graveyard. Infinite mill time.
I LOVE this card.
Dr.Pingas
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Such a beautiful, terrifying card. Pretty much spells INSTANT WIN for any token-heavy deck. Mycoloth, Ghave, and Pentavus both have a field day with it.
ALSO, ideatog, I believe man-lands and such would trigger it, because it doesn't specifically state "creature card", so if the land was also a creature when it died, it's "last-known in play status" reads it as a creature despite what is printed, and the ability triggers.
endersblade
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Ghave, Guru of Spores End of your turn, I pay to make a sap, then pay to sac it to put a +1/+1 counter on Ghave, and draw a card.
: Draw a card. Seems legit. Of course, the obligatory Doubling Season just makes it even more silly.
My friends scoffed at me when I tossed this into my EDH deck. They weren't laughing when I was drawing several cards a turn. Granted, it can also help your opponent, if they have ways of getting rid of their own creatures, so it's somewhat of a politics card, too.
Kontrah
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I can easily see this being good in a fungus deck alongside Psychotrope Thallid. Pay 1, draw two cards.
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Ultimate counter to Wrath of God, and can hit the board as early as turn 2. Also does a fine job against doom blade, and even with chump block or sacrifice creatures.
Its on the edge of broken, definitely mythic rare power level packed into an uncommon enchantment.
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i was just about to asked about this, ok so i have some friends that are pretty skilled players and they tell me that tokens wont activate this, which i thought was stupid, plus i was a vid on youtube about this deck and it was one of the top ten in 2006 or 8, how could it place so high if it didn't work like that???
i just wont to get the skinny on it, so i guess my question is: Do tokens active graveyard triggers even though they cease to be once they hit the Gravyard?
thanks again
The thing is tokens get removed from the game as a state based action, so many people get it mistaken as not even hitting the graveyard. In reality a token should be moved to the graveyard, then immediately removed from the game; so an acceptable shortcut is to just remove them from the game. This action, however, confuses some people.
My immediate reaction is no, but I've been wrong before.
Neat!
I have been trying to find cool Fecundity interactions for casual decks for years. The problem has always been (1) making lots of creatures to sacrifice AND (2) having a good "sacrifice outlet" in play. Eldrazi Spawn solve both at once.
I LOVE this card.
ALSO, ideatog, I believe man-lands and such would trigger it, because it doesn't specifically state "creature card", so if the land was also a creature when it died, it's "last-known in play status" reads it as a creature despite what is printed, and the ability triggers.
End of your turn, I pay
Awakening Zone Free card and
My friends scoffed at me when I tossed this into my EDH deck. They weren't laughing when I was drawing several cards a turn. Granted, it can also help your opponent, if they have ways of getting rid of their own creatures, so it's somewhat of a politics card, too.
Its on the edge of broken, definitely mythic rare power level packed into an uncommon enchantment.