"Useless. If you have 20 creatures you would win anyway. " ================================================== Not in a group game, necessarily. Its a decent win condition.
Here's this one for you guys to chew on: Winning starting hand: 4 forests 1 Earthcraft 1 Squirrel nest 1 Epic Struggle At the beginning of your upkeep on turn 5, you win.
Even if someone sees this coming and tries killing all of your squirrels with a "deals one damage to all creatures" card, you just tap a squirrel and untap your squirrel nested forest and work your way back up to 20 or more squirrels.
Plus, even if you didn't draw that 4th forest or Epic Struggle, you are most likely going to win.
JarieSuicune
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Okay, and people call Battle of Wits cheap... THIS IS SICK! (I LOVE IT! I gotta get me one... I'd win faster than ever! cheap play though...) I've played TONS of games where the creature counts were FLYING WAY PAST 50 ON EACH SIDE! This would put any single team in an insta-win situation!
Oh, yeah. Just combo with Orochi Hatchery to simply sit back and relax. Maybe a Mycosynth Lattice + Darksteel Forge while you're busy napping your way to an easy win? And, yeah DUH it's a high-cost combo. I like those, so HA! ^_^
DeathDark
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0)(3 votes)
Combine this with 4 Howling Mines, a Spellbook, and Endless Swarm. You've got a quick-to-win green deck.
Hibron
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(8 votes)
You wrath of goded my creatures on the brink of victory?
Just shove this into any self-respecting Selesnya deck and have another way to win.
JaronK
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Sprouting Phytohydra is another obvious one to use with this. Just combo it with anything that does 1 damage to everything ( Pestilence and Pyrohemia are best, but Aether Flash will get the job done too) and Coat of Arms, and you've instantly got as many creatures as you'd ever want.
Biteybiteybitey
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0)(2 votes)
rhys, the redeemed... enough said lol
Mudbutt_on
★☆☆☆☆ (1.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Or you know, you can just play Overrun and win with less then half the number of creatures during your combat phase.
Seriously, if you have 20 or more creatures, you're winning, period. And if you're not winning, what's stopping you is likely an enchantment or artifact, so you should run the far more flexible Naturalize instead of this. The chance that your opponent is also running a token craziness deck is not enough to justify putting this in your deck over another useful card.
zandergb
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(2 votes)
@Tanaka348 It wouldn't matter if they were able to get twenty creatures out, it only triggers on your upkeep and only counts your creatures.
ScepterofEternities
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(2 votes)
To all who say this win condition sucks: I've got a WR defender/wall deck that has, quite literally, held multiple darksteel colossi and three mycoloths off (different games). It's nice to have an alternative to brute force sometimes.
I suppose you should be winning already if you had 20 creatures out, but for EDH, that's a different story.
Get Ghave out, maybe have Parallel Lives out while you're Pentavus-ing, and, as long as no one has any Enchantment destruction (HA EVERYONE DOES), you might be able to win on turn 10. Is that fast?... Not really.
I drew 64 cards from Niv-Mizzet while equipped to Curiosity to kill one player, and then played Windfall for a gentleman's draw on turn 10 in EDH. I dunno.
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Funny card, I am glad that it exists. Casual players that like different win cons, gets better in multiplayer.
talcumpowder0046
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Homygodguys just use Storm Crow.
Tricky, but hilarious alternative to Overrun for token decks.
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Not in a group game, necessarily.
Its a decent win condition.
Winning starting hand:
4 forests
1 Earthcraft
1 Squirrel nest
1 Epic Struggle
At the beginning of your upkeep on turn 5, you win.
Even if someone sees this coming and tries killing all of your squirrels with a "deals one damage to all creatures" card, you just tap a squirrel and untap your squirrel nested forest and work your way back up to 20 or more squirrels.
Plus, even if you didn't draw that 4th forest or Epic Struggle, you are most likely going to win.
Oh, yeah. Just combo with Orochi Hatchery to simply sit back and relax. Maybe a Mycosynth Lattice + Darksteel Forge while you're busy napping your way to an easy win? And, yeah DUH it's a high-cost combo. I like those, so HA! ^_^
Mortal Combat. 3:D
Get Ghave out, maybe have Parallel Lives out while you're Pentavus-ing, and, as long as no one has any Enchantment destruction (HA EVERYONE DOES), you might be able to win on turn 10. Is that fast?... Not really.
I drew 64 cards from Niv-Mizzet while equipped to Curiosity to kill one player, and then played Windfall for a gentleman's draw on turn 10 in EDH. I dunno.
Tricky, but hilarious alternative to Overrun for token decks.