This card is really great and theres also a dwarf in the site that gives all minons +1/+1 ,but above all else hes one hawt kinky do who can bring back the dead.Sure hes not that great but a fun card to build around in casual or a hawt guy to imagine is your "special friend"
thaviel
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(3 votes)
dwarf in the site that gives all minons +1/+1 also known as balthor the defiled :)
chainerrhysaltaiir
★★☆☆☆ (2.1/5.0)(6 votes)
This is one of my favorite cards (proven by my user-name), for multiple reasons, first of all, look at him! He's a total bad***! His abilities may be regarded as useless because who uses nightmares? Ill tell you who uses nightmares....you do with this card, you may lose three life and have to pay 3 black to use this, but in a black deck, you have to expect a little sacrifice to gain something great. Perfect example: say you have chainer out on you're field, and you're opponent is using a beefy green deck (my personal favorite) and you have 5 health left and just a little mana, they have 7 health left and a thorn elemental in their graveyard..a simple answer is to take the thorn, use Rite of Consumption to sacrifice it and deal 8 damage (because of the +1/+1 from chainer) and you just won the game with a total of 3 black and 3 health. Even better if this happens close to the beginning because while you may lose some life, the opposing player loses even more.
SirSlaughter
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0)(3 votes)
I agree, Chainer is the man. He makes the perfect backbone in black/white deck. Keeps my lifelinkers on the field, and takes their dead. What more could you ask for?
UNBAN_SHAHRAZAD
★★☆☆☆ (2.7/5.0)(5 votes)
Pretty good, but how can a Minion be a Legend?
Econael
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0)(6 votes)
I love him. He's just so much fun to play! I use him in my cleric deck since there I have a lot of life to spend.
@unban_sharazad:
Imagine you're an evil overlord and you have this amazing first lieutenant, who doesn't want to manage the army because he likes kicking ass too much. Here's your minion legend ;)
my friend had Silvos, Rogue Elemental and Avenger of Zendikar. I was at 5 life , had this card in play. I killed the avenger of zendikar, brought it back with 2 life remaining and ended up winning. GG
MrPink343
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(2 votes)
My favorite choice for a mono-black EDH general. He's mana and life hungry, but a Vampire theme in the deck will give you access to Nirkana Revenant and repeated Malakir Bloodwitch activations from his ability and a sacrifice outlet, partially solving both of those problems. His final Nightmare exiling ability can be a issue, particularly since protecting him in a mono-black deck can be an issue, but Muck Drubb, Blessing of Leeches and Shroud-granting equipment can give him at least some degree of safety.
RikerBlake
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Are those...SHUTTER SHADES? Hey Kanye, Imma let you finish, but Chainer has one of the best shutter shades of all time. OF ALL TIME! :D
Ava_Adore
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
wow, this guy is amazing 5/5
tcollins
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Although he fits best in a reanimation deck, if you're running white and he is destoyed / removed you could cast Shields of Velis Vel on your opponent. Removing all their creatures from the game (because they are Nightmares in addition to every other type)
Test-Subject_217601
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
@kreewlin: Are you saying you want to sex with Chainer?
supershawn
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
so he makes tokens with power and toughness equal to the number of swamps you control +1? I'm going to go ahead and mention that that was a joke. I'd make him an edh general if it weren't for lightning bolt.
Azrael1911
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Stifle is broken on a lot of things. This is one of them. (Hint, his last triggered ability.)
metalevolence
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
he's cool, but the last ability ruined him. I feel he wouldn't have been overpowered without that drawback.
Leonidus78
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Use something like mirrorweave to make everyone a nightmare then kill chainer.
Paleopaladin
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(1 vote)
Why in Karona's name did he have to self-nerf???
Demarkos
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Such a nasty general! Life loss doesnt really matter just make sure you have Sangromancer, and any life gain equipment and you'll be sure to gain your life straight back, while dealing a huge blow to thier life and establishing huge board pressence. Also make sure to have a sac outlet like Viscera Seer so that if they board wipe you sac all your creatures in response and let chainer die so that they do not get exiled.
Etsap
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Add Nim Deathmantle, it can change the creature type from Nightmare to something else so the creature doesn't get exiled when Chainer dies.
raptorman333
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Not that it really matters in most cases, but if you don't want to worry about the nightmares getting removed when he leaves play, remove him in response to playing his ability; then his triggered ability will go on the stack before the revived "nightmare" come into play.
Great for deal with pesky eldrazi... especially coupled with Seal of Doom
GrimjawxRULES
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
This as your general in a Commander deck with Damnation, Hex, Plague Wind, hexproof/shroud equipment and sufficient mana sources: you won't be disappointed.
Dream_Twist
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(1 vote)
This guy.
He's the king of the nightmares! What more is there to say? A true legend.
And I would totally have do chainer.
Arachnos
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Can anybody explain wtf is he wielding? This has gotta be the most awkward flail ever.
So cool flavor wise. I already kinda considered this to be what is happening when you cast horrors and such, but the idea that he's in your head and you're fighting in his arena (so to speak) against all kinds of unspeakable horrors.. is awesome.
LordRandomness
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@Leonidus: The weave will transform Chainer, meaning his effect doesn't go through.
Although you can totally remove all his abilities or turn him into a copy of something else to prevent that LTB trigger and keep your nightmares. Gotta love self-targeted Ego Erasure or Sudden Spoiling!
Oddly enough, Chainer may be the only minion who is also a lord. His abilities scream to be built around, and you can do nasty things with his repeatable reanimation, and also by abusing his nightmare banishing clause, and don't forget that he also buffs core set veteran Nightmare in addition to those in his block.
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also known as balthor the defiled :)
I use him in my cleric deck since there I have a lot of life to spend.
@unban_sharazad:
Imagine you're an evil overlord and you have this amazing first lieutenant, who doesn't want to manage the army because he likes kicking ass too much. Here's your minion legend ;)
PS: Also love his edict! (Chainer's Edict)
5/5
I'm going to go ahead and mention that that was a joke.
I'd make him an edh general if it weren't for lightning bolt.
I feel he wouldn't have been overpowered without that drawback.
Great for deal with pesky eldrazi... especially coupled with Seal of Doom
He's the king of the nightmares! What more is there to say? A true legend.
And I would totally have do chainer.
Although you can totally remove all his abilities or turn him into a copy of something else to prevent that LTB trigger and keep your nightmares. Gotta love self-targeted Ego Erasure or Sudden Spoiling!