if you like black you Have to try Balthor our at EDH since you can reuse his ability :)
FugimSky
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0)(3 votes)
incredible ability to me. he has won me many games with that ability of his.
God_of_Slivers
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0)(5 votes)
Actually Arc-Slogger doesn't play very nice with Balthor at all. Arc-Slogger exiles cards, while Balthor can only bring them back from the graveyard. What you want to use with Balthor is Morality Shift.
baduncadunc
★☆☆☆☆ (1.3/5.0)(3 votes)
Actually, as far as I can tell it's not that great for EDH. It's ability is only activated if it is exiled. In order to cast it again you have to move it to the command zone before it goes into exile, so its ability never activates. I sure hope I'm wrong, however, because I really want to build an EDH deck with it.
Nice creature, but I think the lfavour is a whimpy,
nibelheim_valesti
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0)(5 votes)
A dwarf who weeps? *** off!
EdTheBoarOfNazgar
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
With Balthor, 2 Dark Rituals, Cabal Ritual, Buried Alive and 2 Swamps in your starting hand, use Buried alive with a Dark Ritual to get a creature with Dredge into your graveyard (Stinkweed Imp + Buried Alive = turn 2 threshold) along with your two strongest creatures. Skip your draw phase to Dredge and Balthor hits the board on turn 2 with a Cabal Ritual. Another dark ritual with the remaining 1 mana then allows you to play his ability the same turn!!!! Potentially 7 big creatures hit the board on turn 2. Works great later in the game with Painter's Servant, Bojuka Bog and any large scale creature removal too :D
Also @ God_of_Slivers, I like the sound of morality shift, I think you just helped me finish a deck.
Achumbokum
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(1 vote)
@baduncadunc: edh generals can be exiled. the thing is, after he is placed into exile, you have the choice of bringing him back the the command zone, or leaving him there. but, since he was already technically removed from the game as the cost, you can let him hit the command zone and the ability will still resolve.
MasterOfEtherium
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
Actually Really Good. Dragons Demons Elementals Zombies And Goblins All Back From The Dead(For The Zombies Twice)
Wizard-of-the-Toast
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Ok I have a question. I use Balthor the Defiled to bring back all the R&B cards from my graveyard including Worldgorger Dragon. As Worldgorger comes into play I remove all permanents, would that include all my other resurrected creatures or not? I think so but I'm not 100% sure. Any ideas anyone?
This guy is fantastic with Morality Shift and Songs of the Damned especially when you have creatures with beneficial "comes into play" effects.
Carless
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
About the Worldgorger Dragon is an interesting question is similir with Noxious Ghoul, do you get -n/-n 'cause they enterat the same time or only -1/-1 of Noxious Ghoul? I think this effect apply only for Noxious and they enter at the same time, if Balthor don't put creatures in play one each after the other, I think you'll remove each other with the Worldgorger Dragon, in the case of Noxious Ghoul with posted by Marlo12345 they appear at the same time not after him then Noxious Only does -1/-1 and the other are out of its effect
nimzo
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
What happens if I return to the battlefield three Noxious Ghoul and a Graveborn Muse this way? All non zombie creature gets -3/-3 or __?
Ferlord
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
This is Living Death without all that pesky "sacrifice" bullS**t.
Best when served with River Kelpie. I will draw nineteen cards, please.
DarthParallax
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
"Zombie Dwarf Legend' ????
oooookaaay?
EDH time.
Kelptic183
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(1 vote)
So, can I Mimic Vat this guy to use his effect each turn? Please say yes.
C5r1a5z0y
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Would have been way sweeter if it pumped Zombies instead of Minions. Who's going to play Minion tribal anyway? Plus his ability fits right into what most Zombie decks want to do.
LordOfGraves
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@nimzo i realize it's actually unlikely you'll come back and check for an answer a year and a half later, but... all 4 creatures would enter simultaneously, so they all see each other entering the battlefield. each Noxious Ghoul will trigger 4 times, once for itself and once for each of the other 3 zombies entering the battlefield. that's
4 triggers/ghoul x 3 ghouls = 12 total triggers,
so all non-zombie creatures in play after Balthor the Defiled's ability resolves will get -12/-12 by the time the triggers are done resolving, including any creatures your opponent may have gotten back from balthor's ability. hope that clarifies that particular senario for anyone else that was wondering.
LordRandomness
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Fun facts: Exiling him is a cost, so it happens before his ability resolves. You can play his ability and respond with Pull from Eternity and he'll pop straight back into play!
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
That 2nd ability is so powerful. I doubt anyone runs him just to make there minions +1/+1
Gandlodder
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@luca_barelli I have tried Minion tribal. I don't recommend it.
Quotations
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
just to confirm, does he count as a rakdos colored commander, or a mono black commander? his text does say red after all.
Yukikah
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@Quotations
He's a mono-black commander; Color identity for commander only includes mana symbols in a card's cost or rules box. Saying a color isn't included. Makes sense since it would mean going through and sorting out which color mentions count or not. Otherwise we'd have Irini Sengir count as white and green, for instance.
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Also @ God_of_Slivers, I like the sound of morality shift, I think you just helped me finish a deck.
This guy is fantastic with Morality Shift and Songs of the Damned especially when you have creatures with beneficial "comes into play" effects.
I can't tell you how fun it is to get out 2 Nightmare's, 2 Massacre Wurm's, a Demon of Death's Gate, and Sheoldred, Whispering One with 2 Buried Alive's and this.
I mean, that is a little difficult to pull off, but it isn't far from plausible.
Drop. Sac. *blerp* Dragons.
oooookaaay?
EDH time.
i realize it's actually unlikely you'll come back and check for an answer a year and a half later, but...
all 4 creatures would enter simultaneously, so they all see each other entering the battlefield. each Noxious Ghoul will trigger 4 times, once for itself and once for each of the other 3 zombies entering the battlefield. that's
4 triggers/ghoul x 3 ghouls = 12 total triggers,
so all non-zombie creatures in play after Balthor the Defiled's ability resolves will get -12/-12 by the time the triggers are done resolving, including any creatures your opponent may have gotten back from balthor's ability. hope that clarifies that particular senario for anyone else that was wondering.
I have tried Minion tribal.
I don't recommend it.
He's a mono-black commander; Color identity for commander only includes mana symbols in a card's cost or rules box. Saying a color isn't included. Makes sense since it would mean going through and sorting out which color mentions count or not. Otherwise we'd have Irini Sengir count as white and green, for instance.