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looks at the card and say how is this rare you suck, sees 9/9 whats this flips the card. O.o sorry sir didnt mean to disturb you, have a great day

Kryptnyt - you can only transform him as a sorcery.

He can threaten lethal damage pretty quick with his other side. Made a B/W human deck around this guy. If he comes out then you beating face with a 9/9 flying trampler and if he doesn't then it plays like a modified WW deck. Put him down turn 5 wait until next turn to transform him, the only thing you really need to watch out for is pacifisms and such.

I feel the same way, vividice. We had wurmcoil, gissa, and sheoldred last block. Now we get...this (and mayor of avabruck, which suffers the same).

Ravenous Demon is not a bad card. You are, in effect, getting a nine power demon for cheap. Dirt cheap. My problem is not that he's bad (he isnt), its that he was given as the promo. With the exception of perhaps Seanc'e, I'd have gladly taken any other rare or mythic in the set. The majority of them are super useful in a huge variety of decks. Ravenous Demon, however, is not. Still a good card, but you are forced to build around him, rather than being able to just shuffle him into one of your casual fun decks for the lols.

There is a significant problem with cards that force building. What happens when you don't draw it? what happens when you don't draw what's needed to activate it? what happens when you dont draw what you need to keep it going? This is why deck synergy is a better strategy than combo.

Compare to Splinterfright, which keeps itself going and powers every other card in the deck.

This is a great card, either save him until later in the game when the 9/9 blow will be fatal or make sure you have a plentiful supply of human 1/1 tokens or a means to quickly dispose of the Demon. Fling would be good for a laugh.

I suppose the idea is that you don't transform him until it threatens lethal damage or turns into a nice combat trick.
@Tahunuva
Damn. Then I guess he sucks, doesn't he.

@HowardTreesong: I actually did that during prerelease. My opponent locked it down with Claustrophobia, so I cast Traitorous Blood to borrow one of my opponent's Elgaud Inquisitor, sacrificed it to get the 1/1 spirit token and to activate the transformation, then cast Fling to deal 9 damage. Still lost, but it was a really close game.

Personally, I was glad to see this as the promo, as it is a perfect fit to my play style. I understand how much of a let down it is to most, but if it's that terrible, send it my way :P

Anyway, this is the finishing beater to my BW sac deck. With cards like Gather the Townsfolk, Undying Evil, and Unburial Rites, there's no shortage of fuel for my sac engines. Thinking about adding a Culling Dias or two to help speed things up, alongside Elixir of Immortality to reset my library after using up so many spells and creatures.

A really fun deck, and just getting tons of support from DKA..

Why did he have to be the PR card?
...though he does look nice in foil...hehehe
(bustles off to make "sac a human" deck)

This card as Prerelease Promo is nothing more than an insult...

Goodbye valuable, playable, and mythic Promos...

Maybe we've all just become desensitized to cards like this. I remember when cards like Nicol Bolas and Lord of the Pit used to be scary to see on the other side of the table. Sure, they had major drawbacks, but in the earlier days of Magic, that was the only way to play a creature of that size. Nowadays we have Flying Spaghetti monsters like Emrakul, who's only drawback is it's CMC, and cheaper and cheaper large creatures. People forget that the Upkeep used to be used for more than just drawing extra cards and looking at the top card of your library.


I for one, welcome this throwback to old school demons, and ask that more cards come with drawbacks like this. He's fast, it's damn fast, but for that same cost it's got to have a drawback. This is a bigger creature than Lord of the Pit, and it's two mana cheaper. Plus, it's a 4/4 on the front, so even if after you drop it and someone wipes out all of your 1/1 Human tokens with a Ratchet Bomb you don't have to flip him. He'll still live up to that Brimstone Volley when he hits the table, at least that is until you sac a human and trigger morbid, and he's highly resilient to Doom Blade. Y'all are the reason there's power creep.

Am i the only one who noticed this and Bloodgift Demon work well with Personal Sanctuary from M12? This guy also combos well with Reaper from the Abyss

@scatterdells: You're the only one who noticed that because none of those things you said work. Personal Sanctuary only prevents damage that would be dealt to you during your turn, and Bloodgift Demon is loss of life. Additionally, having Sanctuary and the Archdemon here wouldn't give you any benefit, because if you don't sac the human, you have to tap him. And what good is a 9/9 flying trample demon if it's tapped, whether or not you take 9 damage?

Turn 5: Cast Ravenous Demon
Turn 6: Sacrifice my Disciple of Griselbrand, transforming Ravenous Demon. Swing for 9. Fling for 9. GG?

And since he has flying and trample, there isn't much my opponent can do.

@RAV0004
May I just say: Suck it Up! You are complaining because WotC decided to *gasp* not give away rarer cards and instead went for flavor? Oh, the horror! How about next set everyone gets foils of all the mythics in the set to make up for it? Or is THAT not enough? Just because Wizards has decided to give out mythics for the most recent few blocks, doesn't mean you are entitled to them. (and no, I don't think this is dome sort of conspiracy for monetary reasons... WotC doesn't get money from the secondary market, and have almost no control over prices.)

I don't like this card. People keep telling me how useful he is but I'm not convinced. Every time I play him I've either already secured a win with better cards (Usually Skirsdag High Priest) and a handful of 5/5 Flying demon tokens. Or I'm dead in the water and he's my only creature.

I've only ever transformed him one time and I swear ever time I pull him in an opening hand I lose the match. I took one of the two in my deck out for a Bloodgift Demon and won the very next match using his draw ability to take my opponent's last life.

Gets along well with Thraben Doomsayer.

Wait, Ravenous Demon is the GOOD side of this card? (nervously clicks)

Decent b/w token card !

Why is every one hateing on this card, it's not a bad card. Good if you running a deck of white and black and use Increasing Devotion and combo with Skirdag High Priest, That way you'r loseing humans every turn but gaining demons thin well run out of humans flashback Increasing Devotion then what ever u can think of to make it better. simple.

So...

If this demon is in my graveyard, and i have Necrotic Oozee on the field, can I sac a human to transform my ooze?

This + Switcheroo for an unexpected combo.

Looks straight out of....... that bad movie with Jennifer Lopez and the psychopath and she goes inside his head.

If only Bitterblossom spawned humans... I really want to build a suicide black deck with this.

I love this card! I've never had a problem with him and have won many a game with him. My deck consists of 4x Thraben Doomsayer, Increasing Devotion and 90% of all creatures in deck are human. I also have 4x Cloudshift so that I can get at least one attack in and can reflip him as a contingency plan.