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Use Deathbringer Liege in your hybrid white/black deck to obtain the most efficient synergy this awesome card has to offer.

This is one of the best Liege cards.

Obviously possesses synergy with W/B hybrid cards. Pricey, but worth it if you've got enough hybrids, and after Alara Reborn there's no reason not to have them.

Insane. Just about every black/white creature you play will have a free Assassinate on it and it'll have a +2/+2 bonus.

With Cloudstone Curio in play, transforms your Nip Gwyllions into a flurry of death! Just play one, then the other, return the first to your hand, and repeat!

Easily the best Liege for the sole reason that he turns any (B or B/W) spell into a removal spell. Even a removal spell itself becomes a twofer. All the Lieges are playable in casual but few impact the game as intensely and as persistently as the Deathbringer....

do his effects work with debtors' knell as you're not actually playing the creatures?
overall I think it's the second best liege after balefire liege

To answer your question Gezus82.

Debtors knell's ability is on the stack, not the creature your trying to resurect. According to the following from the MTG comprensive rule book, a spell is defined as:

111.1. A spell is a card on the stack. As the first step of being cast (see rule 601, “Casting Spells”), the card becomes a spell and is moved to the top of the stack from the zone it was in, which is usually its owner’s hand. (See rule 405, “Stack.”) A spell remains on the stack as a spell until it resolves (see rule 608, “Resolving Spells and Abilities”), is countered (see rule 701.5), or otherwise leaves the stack. For more information, see section 6, “Spells, Abilities, and Effects.”

Ergo, debtors knell won't help you use Deathbringer Liege's "whenever you play a spell" abilitys. Which really sucks for me since I use White black reserection. I recomend bouncing your cheap creatures in play or graveyard to get the effect your after. Good luck.

I run 3 of these bad boys in my {(W/B)} deck where most of my spells are {(W/B)}.
Creature destroyer and gives +1/+1 or +2/+2 to the rest of my creatures!

How about playing it with Ghost Council of Orzhova? You'd need a creature to sacrifice, but depending on what it is, it's worth sucking 1 life from your opponent, destroying one of their creatures, AND having the Ghost Council gain +2/+2.

Play an Unmake and watch them weep.

Selenia, Dark Angel works good too.

I got into a bit of a debate w/ some friends over this card.

One side contending that the tap/destroy abilities were triggered effects and can be used to tap/destroy creatures that have protection from black/white.(similar to the ruling on Journey to Nowhere) The wording on the card reading "you" may tap/destroy target creature, as opposed to the Liege directly targeting it by itself.

The other side of course insisting that the Liege is the one doing the targeting and that, of course it couldn't destroy anything w/ protection from either of it's colors. i.e. Black Knight or White Knight

Any thoughts?

"MMMM! Tastes like a diara! perhaps just one more..."

@billpasdmf

According to the comprehensive rules:

"The source of a triggered ability (other than a delayed triggered ability) on the stack, or one that has triggered and is waiting to be put on the stack, is the object whose ability triggered." (112.7)

"A permanent or player with protection can't be targeted by spells with the stated quality and can't be targeted by abilities from a source with the stated quality." (702.14b)

So, the source of the triggered abilities is Deathbringer Liege, and creature with pro-black/pro-white cannot be targeted by those abilities because the Liege fits the stated quality (black/white).

I am guessing the confusion stems from Journey's Interaction with Emrakul, which has protection from colored spells- Journey's only works because it is a triggered ability, not a spell. The ability would still have a white source.

... This thing's name, creature type and picture seem pure, unadulterated black to me. Feels lazy. Though I suppose, given that he does a much better job in pure black than in pure white, that sorta makes sense.

This is fun in a deck crammed with things like Mourning Thrull, Edge of the Divinity, Divinity of Pride, Nip Gwyllion, and so on. And Batwing Brume. All of these are kill spells with him out. Doesn't even matter if he's been hit with Pacifism.

It doesn't even have to be in an Orzhov deck. If you have an Esper deck or something like that, it's still an amazing card. Things like Sphinx of the Steel Wind would still do both effects.

@hunted_front your synergy doesn't work because you are not playing a spell, the Ghost council is simply coming back from exile

Doubles your doom blades! Makes yourpacifisms paralyze! Multiplies your Vindicates! Is there anything it can't do?

Dear God, WHAT were they thinking when they printed this?

Creature advantage is often key in Magic, and this guy just gives it to you WAY too easily. Aside from the obvious that he gives you free removal for even the smallest of spells and that every kill spell grants you an extra kill spell, he also buffs your creatures at the same time, making all your s#!t with lifelink even harder for you opponent to deal with as you gain life to the point where they couldn't possibly kill you.

Why does it have to be "destroy target tapped creature?" Why couldn't it be something like "When you play a black spell, you may have target tapped creature not untap during its controllers unstap step" or "When you play a black spell, you may have target opponent lose 1 life for each tapped creature he or she controls." Yeah, the first suggestion is more up blues' alley than blacks', but the second would still be powerful without being game-breaking, and with his 'white spell' ability you could still go to town on your opponent with Assassinates, and Royal Assassin would've have a field-day with this guy. But no, they gave Deathbringer Liege the ability to kill on his lonesome. (And Royal Assassin went on to become best friends with Sleep, anyway.)

One thing I haven't seen brought up yet is how you can have more than one of these out at once; my younger brother once got all three out while he was playing his Orzhov deck, played a Mortify, and cleared his opponents' field. Another thing I haven't seen mentioned is that has so much recursion that even if you do kill this guy, he probably won't stay dead for long. And you can't slap something like Oblivion Ring or Arrest on this guy, because has access to Mortify or any other run-of-the-mil white enchantment destruction. The only way to really get rid of this guy is to remove it from the game with something like Path to Exile or kill it when you've got a Leyline of the Void out.

Seriously, this guy can even kill Emrakul; think about that.

5 out of 5; few creatures can earn my hate like this thing has.

Is that a Broodmother from Dragon Age?

I have the weirdest boner right now. =D

Pictured here: typical goth girl.

Y'know.
Just in case Sorin, Lord of Innistrad didn't scare people enough. Kill something too.
And now High Priest of Penance gets to give you a taste of what he can do before even entering the field.

And then you can ping him for 1 damage to destroy things repeatedly! Man, this is my favourite Liege by far.

Looks more like the monster from "Slither" to me... it's even got those tentacle things floppin' around.

My friend made a deck revolving around split black and white mana, and by GOD does it work. He kicks ass with it. This is one of the central cards, and it does it's work. It's a control deck at heart, thanks to this thing and all the nightsky mimics, but I've seen it where if he isn't dead by turn four or five, you are. Him getting this thing out is akin to a death sentence.

The best liege in magic.

Does anyone know what's the reason of the recent increase in price of this card?

Can i block a white knight with Deathbringer LiegeÉ

To all the older players: I was shocked to see the artist for this card was Drew Tucker! Dude's style has evolved...