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Nobilis of War

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Nobilis of War

Comments (24)

Zamkaizer
★★★☆☆ (3.6/5.0) (9 votes)
Among the weakest of the Shadowmoor block's "demigod" cycle. While its ability is relevant to the variety of weenies and tokens of its component colors and it's also a 5 c.m.c. flyer that attacks for 5, that same c.m.c. is a significant drawback to a color-combination focused on quick, cheap threats, with little mana-acceleration. The Balefire Liege is strictly better, though this represents an acceptable budget alternative.
epricq
★★☆☆☆ (2.1/5.0) (4 votes)
This is the lamest demigod by far. For me, the reason is because unlike all the others, he's a "god" that doesn't really do much by himself. 5/4 flyer when attacking? That's it? Really?
Kenji18
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (4 votes)
The Nobilis of War is very good with Light From Within, and if you are already playing the Nobilis in a white weanie deck, then there is no reason not to have him. He may also complement Outrage Shaman well, if anyone uses him. I do agree with Zam, though, in that I would take a Balefire over the Nobilis any day.
God_of_Destruction
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.6/5.0) (6 votes)
Too weak for Demigod of Revenge...TERMINATE him and let Demigod of Revenge rule all of the spirit avatars...
Mode
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (2 votes)
Well, Kenji, that thing with Light From Within is true for every other demigod as well. (at least concerning the other white hybrids, regarding your mono-colored white weenie)
Again, red hybrid demigods are also just as useful with Outrage Shaman.

I'm also slightly disappointed from this one.
Of course it's still not a bad creature, but it could have been a bit stronger. What kept them from making this guy 4/4, giving the bonus to non-attacking creatures or at least make it 3/5?
Of course it boosts your other creatures as well, but Demigod of Revenge in comparison can hit one turn earlier and will be even more devasting if you've got some of these in your graveyard.
MasterOfEtherium
★☆☆☆☆ (1.8/5.0) (6 votes)
This Guy Is Real Fun He Can Buff A Small Army And The Art Is Magnificent Plus He Flies
AUKingClow
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (1 vote)
Hmm, another puzzle for potential Johnies...I'd say that playing multiple copies in tandem with with attack boost cards and hordes of weenies is the only real way to go for this guy. I mean, with 2 on the field, both attacking makes each a 7/4. And that's NOT looking at what they may do to your other creatures.
Donovan_Fabian
★★☆☆☆ (2.2/5.0) (3 votes)
yeah.. seems sorta weak for 5 mana. His stats are so so and his ability only works when creatures attack. If he had haste or flash so it can be played on the field when your attacking to scare your opponents then he would be awesome, but since he doesn't.. shrug. Nothing compared to the other cards. I'd say the best avatar is either oversoul or ghastlord, both have pretty ridiculous abilities. Dominus is also pretty decent, in that the creature isn't great but you get to steal your opponents creatures once a turn. Contrary to what most people have said I find demigod of revenge to be pretty weak, exiling one of them makes the whole "bring it back from the grave" strategy pointless, as does ring of oblivion. At least the other avatars have some useful affect that doesn't require you to have multiples of the same creature in a graveyard
Gezus82
★★☆☆☆ (2.9/5.0) (4 votes)
this was made for rise of the hobgoblins, a bunch of first striking 3/1s is nothing to scoff at, and what if theres a liege on the field? 5/3 first strike. thats brutal.
with all the first and double strike in RW this guy is nothing to scoff at, especially since you'r probably playing weeny.
and in that case pumping your army is more useful than a big flashy Demigod of Revenge.
you attack me with you'r 5/3, well I attack you with 7 of em.

though I do have to admit Glory of Warfare is strictly better. but hey, it's got a decent body and with flying. perhaps not all you want for 5 manna but there's not much else for a 5 slot and 5 isn't too high. I mean what else are you gonna use brightflame?
thrallallmighty
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (1 vote)
this one is wery good
it is 5/4 and all your other creatures get +2/0
its much better than demigod of revenge
they are both 5/4 when attacking but in thi case all other creatures you control get +2/0
XDaragoX
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (4 votes)
The Nobilis is underrated, in my opinion. His ability, while nothing particularly new or interesting, should not be scoffed at, and neither should a 5/4 flyer. His ability to strongly complement White Weenie strategies should not be dismissed (turning your Serra Avengers into 5/3 flyers and your Knight of Meadowgrains into 4/2 first-striking lifelinkers is always nice) and he'll almost always affect the board for at least one turn, something that only two other Demigods, Oversoul of Dusk and Demigod of Revenge himself, can realistically claim.
izzet_guild_mage
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0) (9 votes)
Springjack Shepherd. Problem solved :)
skew
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (1 vote)
He's good as it is. The other avatars are better, though. He could have haste, it would add to the flavor of unexpected turn of the tide.
jonfck
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Though maybe not as good as the other demigods many R/W have double strike which makes him particulary giving them +4/+0
Blackworm_Bloodworm
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
He should've had double strike instead of flying, IMO. Then we'll see where he'd be on the Spirit Avatar hierarchy.
It's sad though, for the awesome color combination that is RedWhite; unless you have an army (which you should), he's strictly worse than Demigod of Revenge.
DacenOctavio
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0) (2 votes)
Sup Battle Cry.
observerofthecards
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@DacenOctavio: Exactly what I was thinking. Battle Cry, Battle Cry, Battle Cry. In a casual Battle Cry deck, one could use this as a cheap replacement for either of the more expensive Heroes, or just put it in period. Either way, it is a strong contribution for a battle cry deck
ChaosK
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (2 votes)
I actually think in Mono White Weenie, the Nobilis is superior to Balefire Liege
Very underrated on my opinion.

I run him in a very aggressive MWW Flyers deck and if i can manage to get some cheap flyers on the field before he hits the field (not very hard with squadron hawk and such) Its pretty much Game Over

Also my Skyhunter Skirmisher now hits for 6 :)
OmegaSerris
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I know comparing old card to newer ones is a fruitless effort, but I think it should have done more. Something like "Blocking creatures you control get +0/+2" to represent the white side. See Archangel of Strife for and idea of what it would be like.
BorosGeneral
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Hrm. This + Agrus Wojek + Balefire Liege + Hellkite Charger and lets say we have enough artifacts to throw in a Jor Kadeen. all red creatures are now +8/+1 and all white creatures are now +6/+3 per with each getting +2/0 or 0/+2 per attack phase. Hrrrrrrrm. I sense a dangerous contraption being brewed here.
Dabok
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (2 votes)
Compared to the other gods of Eventid and Shadowmoor, this one is easy to get overlooked at. Almost too easy, because the other demigods are sort "flashy". They're big and they have wicked abilities.
This one might not seem much on his own, but that's the thing with him, he helps your other creatures rather than just think about himself.
If you put this down on turn 5, you attack with the critters that you already have in play, giving your opponent a headache and even more so because he knows that it's gonna happen again next turn, this time with the Nobilis himself attacking.
Do not underestimate this in favor of his peers.
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Now for his deck placement. White and Red are very known for their weenies, and this proves to be a great candidate for the finisher slot. It's actually pretty legit since one of the biggest problems of weenies are their creatures being rendered useless late-game. Nobilis fixes that and isn't a pushover himself.
But I think that he'd fit more in a beatdown deck, where creatures are not as cheap as weenie, but has a more steady mana curve. I say this because even though he's a good finisher on a weenie, drawing him early on will result be a handicap, since weenie is all about ending the game as fast as possible, whereas beatdown doesn't mind going into mid-lategame.
Red-White
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This card into Aurelia, the Warleader is pretty much game over, if they dont have removal ready. This card indeed is underrated, since even though it doesnt have haste, 6the creatures you already control will be boosted by quite a bit and with boros weenie deck, the boost might mean 10 or even morde dmg in just one turn. This should be ratred at least 4.