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Ixidron

Multiverse ID: 124313

Ixidron

Comments (52)

rubber
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (5 votes)
Too bad it doesn't permanently set its P/T when it comes into play. It would be great with Infest...
ClowWizardEriol
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0) (4 votes)
An interesting card to use against creatures with no Morph ability. It's a way to change creatures into plain vanilla 2/2 creatures. Humility is similar as is Godhead of Awe.
KrosanGardener
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Yaaaay! Throwback flavor!
Balhaza
★★★★☆ (4.9/5.0) (8 votes)
I have to say that this card is a clever answer to the recent Hypergenesis deck with things like Baneslayer Angels and Progenitus.
GooberSnotpants
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.6/5.0) (11 votes)
what if
you ran this
in
a token deck? All your 1/1 tokens become 2/2, ideally ixidron gets big.
Arglypuff
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0) (5 votes)
Hey, gooberSnotpants, try reading the card carefully, k?
Denizs
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
good for selesnya united deck but the colors aren't the same...
Kataklyzmik
★★★★☆ (4.6/5.0) (6 votes)
@Goober Snotpants: Look again, friend. 'All non-token creatures' means your tokens are unaffected.

But this could be better than Wrath of God for a blue deck annoyed by giant green things.
Tsuruya-Green
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0) (4 votes)
Deceptively powerful. You could have dozens of the strongest most well-protected, shielded,fail-safed indestructible protection from all colours and this still beats them. With no easy answer my deck sets about sacrificing almost all of my creatures with Claws of Gix and recycling them to my library. No creature is safe from this monster.
Duskdale_Wurm
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (5 votes)
Hey everyone- read! It's NONTOKEN creatures so it can't work with tokens.
Andon_A
★★☆☆☆ (2.2/5.0) (5 votes)
Combo with Consume the Meek. In a decent U/B deck, you should be able to cast that the turn after casting this for an almost-total boardwipe.
Daikoru
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (5 votes)
This is a must in every Morph deck. Neutralize your opponent's creatures, have a powerful creature on your side and get a second use out of all your morph creatures turn-face-up abilities, for the great bargain cost of 5 CMC.
Chrome_Coyote
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0) (4 votes)
This card is so cool, blue needs more creatures like this.
LostFool
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0) (2 votes)
Kinda prefer Evacuation but this is pretty cool =) Like it better than Godhead of Awe though.
chinkeeyong
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (3 votes)
Nothing to see here, giant morph spider passing through.
Pigglebee
★★★★☆ (5.0/5.0) (10 votes)
Play with Vigean Hydropon or other similar cheap creatures with counters. Counters stay, so the Vigeon will suddenly become a 7/7 that *can* attack.
deventio7
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (3 votes)
Combo with Massacre Wurm gogogo
Shadoflaam
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (2 votes)
Face-down creatures have no expansion symbol? WTF?
Noyan_Dar
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0) (2 votes)
@shado: It's important because of cards like Golgothian Sylex. That's basically it, though.
Anything that can answer the unanswerable is alright in my book, and a potentially massive creature in blue isn't too shabby either.
Unfortunately, without evasion it is easily gangblocked by the now-useless creatures that it made. Almost a poetic drawback, considering it's in a color synonymous with evasion.
Kontrah
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (2 votes)
One of my favorite cards in the game. It's budget, but so powerful. It universally controls all those fatties and overpriced mythics you play against but can't afford.

I run it in a BlueGreen deck with a White splash for Momentary Blink. It's great with graft creatures, as others have mentioned, although I prefer Plaxcaster Frogling and Cytoplast Root-kin over Vigean Hydropon. Either way, when your graft creatures flip over as 2/2s with +1/+1 counters still attached, I've seen a lot of one-sided battles.

I was lucky and pulled a Venser, the Sojourner. Between him, Blink with flashback, and a Mystic Snake or two for protection, Ixi can change the board for many turns!
Nucleon
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (3 votes)
I'm amazed this isn't an EDH staple. Few players will have Morph creatures, and you effectively have a blue creature wipe on your hands for only 5 CMC. Since large creatures are inevitable in a slow format, this bypasses everything, including Hexproof, Protection, Indestructible, and Shroud.
Names_Suck
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (3 votes)
What's even better is he can be birthing podded into massacre wurm. Can also combo with ratchet bomb to be a true wrath.
Gabriel422
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (3 votes)
Make all lands into creatures (with something like Natually Affinity) then cast this.
Gelzo
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (3 votes)
"Although the physical action is the same, transforming is not the same as being turned face down. This means that a double-faced card that transforms will not, for example, trigger Unblinking Bleb. Double-faced cards are always face up; they are never face down. If an effect (say, Ixidron) tries to turn a double-faced card face down, nothing happens."

Oh well.
twinArmaggedons
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0) (5 votes)
Wiizard2 errata'd a liine from thii2 card from part of the effect two remiinder text.

That ju2t 2eem2 2illy two me.
RuscoJames
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (3 votes)
Werewolves, bane of Ixidron
elhajjaj
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.7/5.0) (3 votes)
Gelzo made the comment that transforming cards (werewolves et al) don't have a back. I know it isn't in the rules anywhere, but a transform card really does have a back. The rules demons forgot about the proxy card that puts the transform card into play in the first place. It DOES have a back. If the proxy can be used to put the transform card into a deck because it has a back, it should certainly take the transform card's place during the game if a card back (or face) is again required.
Just sayin'...
BossMoney
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@elhajjaj : unfortunately no, Double-Faced cards cannot be turned Face-Down as they do not have a back. The Proxy card is just that, a Proxy, to be used in private zones where the back-face of a double-faced card would grant public knowledge in a private zone (deck, hand, face-down exile, etc). The Double-Faced card is the real card and the Proxy cannot exist in a public zone such as the Battlefield/Play or Graveyard.

Face-up and Face-Down are a status based on the MTG printed back. A double-faced card has a Front-face and Back-Face and no MTG printed back... thus cannot be turned face-down, nor cast face-down...

Sadly this also means a morphed card cannot be 'transformed' into play as it has a Face-Up an Face-Down status, not a Front-Face and Back-Face status...
pedrodyl
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (2 votes)
Ixidron: Trolling all of MTG since 2006
Gargantula
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
EDH gold. Combos particularly well with Venser, The Sojourner as someone has mentioned. Trip Ixidron with Venser to renew his effect, or trip your own creature that's been morphed to restore it to its normal state. Also would have great synergy with Momentary Blink
MANABURNWASGOOD
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I got to see how useful this card can be this weekend. I put it in my mono blue Kira EDH deck becasue I was looking for more board control and based on what I own, this was one of the options, and I finally got to use it.

Firstly, the ability doesn't target, so anything with hexproof or shroud is fair game. I'm much happier facing a 2/2 with one of those abilities than let's say a Kaalia, Geist or something else just as annoying. I ended up with a 7/7 or so. He was killed, and the best part about that was that they creatures stay face down even when he's removed/killed.
GracefulInferno
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Play this, then let your Shaper Parasites go to work.
DarkbladeWraith
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Unfortunately the errata specifies that face down cards have "no name", otherwise Ixidron and Echoing Truth suddenly becomes a board-wiper. What could have been.....
orisiti
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@DarkbladeWraith
In that case Echoing Truth would have Killed Ixidron, and let them Re-Cast the big threats that you had just neutralized anyways.

EDH has been mentioned several tiime, but no-one has mentioned the best part. It is one of the best ways to neutralize a general. Un-morphing the general does not give them the option to send it to the command zone, so unless they get attacked (and block with their general) or waste a removal card on it, it will stay on the the board in it's worthless neutered form.

As a question, are Ixidrons P/T equal to the number of face-down creatures on the battlefield in all zones? I am thinking of placing him in my The Mimeoplasm EDH, and was wondering if consuming this guy for counters would give me one for each face down creature.
Lord_of_Gelectrodes
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (2 votes)
Would've loved if it had no creature type. That would have been cool.
syrazemyla
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@orisiti: Yes, its P/T are equal to the number of face-down creatures in all zones.

Also, Ixidron works against every general but one.
adrian.malacoda
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@syrazemyla: Actually, since Ixidron's ability is non targeted, Akroma of Fury is affected by it as well.
Alsebra
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@adrian.malacoda - Then Akroma would just morph again. That's what the person you answered was going for.
psychichobo
★☆☆☆☆ (1.3/5.0) (3 votes)
This would be AMAZING in Werewolf decks.

Transform creatures can't be turned face down. So all your creatures remain in whatever mental form they have, whilst all theirs are feeble 2/2's, ready to suffer.

Though probably should lay off on the Immerwolf until afterwards...
evenblackerlotus
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
what if I put infinite reflection on this guy and cast another creature?
sliverknight
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
If you read his rulings it says the facedown creatures have no text... So doesn't that mean that they should lose their ability to morph since they have no text??? Not really sure.
Kirbster
★☆☆☆☆ (1.3/5.0) (3 votes)
Super-secret tech with transform creatures!
Arachnos
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Good with temporary exile effects (like Venser), so you can keep morphing even new creatures the opponent drops.
Frenzy13
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (1 vote)
This and Massacre Wurm.
opponent:
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Cygore
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0) (1 vote)
I might put this in my Blue/Red deck and combo it with Pyroclasm
Missile_Penguin
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (2 votes)
Every card in Time Spiral was a throwback to at least one previously printed card.

This card references the 'morph spider' that all morph creatures appear as when face down; the card's name references Ixidor, Reality Sculptor who created the first morph creatures.
Layk
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Use in a morph deck and throw a Followed Footsteps on this bad boy to keep your opponents creatures suppressed and give your morph creatures a chance to use their "when turned face up" ability again.
DeFectiveDeity
★☆☆☆☆ (1.0/5.0) (1 vote)
hehehe... Ixidor, Reality Sculptor + Training Grounds + Unblinking Bleb. hehehe... I'm going to the lowest level of the pit, aren't I? lol
Belgarath123
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (1 vote)
@Rubber
Ummm... you know that Ixidron would also die, because he would be a -2/-2...

@Frenzy13
Ummm... unless you have creatures that got turned, you will kill Ixidron
manaderp
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Allows you to reliably cast Break Open, so 5/5 from me.
Utheraptor
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (1 vote)
I wonder what would happen if I cast Ixidron and my opponent had Huntmaster if the Fells... Would assume its werewolf form?
Tribor
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (1 vote)
@Utheraptor: Double faced cards and tokens cannot be flipped face down, and thus Ixidron does not affect them. I learned this in a Star game, where one ally had werewolves and the other tokens... ;

My favorite thing to do is cast Artful Dodge on a brand new 15/15 Ixidron.