Mm. This card is only better than Diabolic Tutor when you can cast it from the grave. And that costs 8 MANA, HOLY COW. In something like EHD, that's not bad. But for standard, and many other game types, the game will be over by then.
Chimaera2357
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(9 votes)
I can't think of any black EDH deck that wouldn't want this card.
Cyberium
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(6 votes)
The mana cost (both cast and flashback) and sorcery speed hurts this card, but one could never deny the power of fetching any card you want from the deck. EDH potential = HIGH.
teamfireyleader
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0)(5 votes)
Okay, so diabolic tutor got flat out replaced in EDH.... good to know. Chainer is going to use this a lot!
Vividice
★★★★☆ (4.9/5.0)(4 votes)
Awesome Design for Casual, Multiplayer and EDH.
htgtmd
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0)(5 votes)
Always happy to see another tutor.
pedrodyl
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(2 votes)
Dammit I hate when people use tutors in EDH. It takes all the fun out of it. @jesstifer Since you cast the flashback card before the Feldon's Cane activation (at least that's what I think you meant), the flashback is already on the stack by the time the Cane ability resolves, so the flashback card resolves right after you shuffle your graveyard back in.
jesstifer1030
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@ Pedrodyl. Thanks. I am playing this in a version of MEGRimS!! w/ Burning Inquiry...
.Blaze.
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0)(7 votes)
This is an EDH card if I ever saw it. Got to love playing black.
RAV0004
★★☆☆☆ (2.9/5.0)(4 votes)
The point of EDH is to non-standarize your draws. You are supposed to use cards that work so synergistically with your general that your only deck strategy should be to have your general in play when you cast the spell or any other spell. in your deck.
tutors take the randomness (and whole point of the format) out of EDH. That said, it's still powerful And I'm still going to rate it high.
theVillageIdiot
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0)(5 votes)
As everyone has said, this seems insane in EDH.
I could easily see someone casting this to get the final piece of an infinite mana combo and proceeding to flash it back to grab win cons like exsanguinate
RJDroid
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(4 votes)
I think that most of this card's value will come from EDH players, as you essentially get to search for 3 cards from 1. That's insane, even if spread over multiple turns. Cabal Coffers, Magus of the Coffers, Nirkana Revenant make it incredibly easy to get black mana in EDH. It's conceivable that you could cast this card, flashback it, and cast all three cards you searched for in the same turn. Every single deck that has black should play a copy, because the mana cost is very easy on multicolor mana bases. I also like this card because it is balanced, but still powerful when used in conjunction with your silver bullets.
Easy 5/5 from me.
DarthParallax
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0)(9 votes)
so Ancestral Recall as a Tutor at sorcery speed costs . That...actually doesn't sound like enough.
Why exactly do we need an Ancestral Recall as a Tutor in this game again? o.O
Swamp, Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual....7BB. short. damnit they're learning. :p
EDIT: Mox Jet, Black Lotus. 8 cards, you can do it on the draw. and then promptly be accused of being a dirty rotten cheater. :)
Radagast
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Yep, one copy goes into every black EDH deck out there, I believe.
MANABURNWASGOOD
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Love this card. the art is great, will try to get a foil one as it will look sick. but EDH gets another cool search spell.
Silence9
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
5 stars! Thank you Volkan Baga, for the erection-worthy art. Again. >=
SgtSwaggr
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(4 votes)
Even in standard, there are very few cards black would rather be drawing late game other than this.
Motion2Dismiss
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
Holy feces, this card is broken. This will obviously be an EDH staple. And it will see play in Standard. Those who don't think games of Standard will ever last until someone has 8 mana are clearly aggro players.
This card will probably be a 1-2 of in multiple control decks (UB, MBC, Esper, etc...). At midgame, it finds the answer you need to stay alive until the late game. Late game, it finds your win condition plus a board sweeper (or other answer). Or two win conditions to fight through countermagic in a control mirror.
I could also see it showing up in a ramp deck, like the B/G Wolf Run deck Conley Woods took down a GP with. Primeval Titan to get enough lands, then tutor up two more two more Titans (or Titan and BSZ).
Alex343
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
pulled a foil in a fat pack insert into edh
poprockmonster
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Put it in my Glissa, The Traitor EDH, used its flashback tutors to get Riftsweeper and Demonic Collusion, then went and found it again, it's SO perfect for EDH :D
This thing is increadible for mana ramp decks. I got 4 in my standard mono black deck, with x4 of each of the non creature mana ramp artifacts, 12 total. The first tutor is ez to get in that deck, and not to much later I get 2 cards, setting up my win condition. 3 tutors packed into one card. Granted you need to have a ramp or heavy control to use it properly.
igniteice
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
The benefits of this card are pretty self-explanatory: regardless of mana cost, you're exchanging one card for three tutored cards. Other benefits though include that its flashback is quite useful if you're being milled or it gets countered the first time around. It should also be noted that although it costs more than Diabolic Tutor, it at least costs 1 less black mana, which can be important in a multi-colored deck that is getting unlucky with land draws and mana fixing cards.
ZursApprentice
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
People seem to like this in EDH, which fine, but I also think it has a place as a 1-2 of in Block and Standard. The obvious inclusion is in combo-control sort of decks, i.e. decks with control elements but combo win conditions. When you cast it the first time you get a strong defensive spell, like Blasphemous Act, or whatever you need, which is very powerful. When you hit 8 mana (which this sort of deck will) you get to find BOTH combo pieces. It kinda reminds me of Tooth and Nail, because of the role it fills, although there are obvious differences between the two.
DacenOctavio
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Flashback this to grab sick rebound spells and more flashback spells.
blindthrall
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Weakest of the cycle, all the other ones are useful in more than one format. Note that I didn't say it was a bad card, it just has some stiff competition Increasing Savagery.
Curiously useful in my self-mill deck. It's a very versatile combo piece, providing your deck will see that kind of Flashback mana.
EDH Staple, naturally.
thencomesdudley
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Since I'm broke, my Humanimator deck can't afford to run more than 1 copy of Falkenrath Aristocrat. This is a nice way to tutor that in, once the combo is mostly set up.
Comments (29)
@jesstifer Since you cast the flashback card before the Feldon's Cane activation (at least that's what I think you meant), the flashback is already on the stack by the time the Cane ability resolves, so the flashback card resolves right after you shuffle your graveyard back in.
tutors take the randomness (and whole point of the format) out of EDH. That said, it's still powerful And I'm still going to rate it high.
I could easily see someone casting this to get the final piece of an infinite mana combo and proceeding to flash it back to grab win cons like exsanguinate
Every single deck that has black should play a copy, because the mana cost is very easy on multicolor mana bases.
I also like this card because it is balanced, but still powerful when used in conjunction with your silver bullets.
Easy 5/5 from me.
That...actually doesn't sound like enough.
Why exactly do we need an Ancestral Recall as a Tutor in this game again? o.O
Swamp, Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual, Dark Ritual....7BB.
EDIT: Mox Jet, Black Lotus. 8 cards, you can do it on the draw. and then promptly be accused of being a dirty rotten cheater. :)
This card will probably be a 1-2 of in multiple control decks (UB, MBC, Esper, etc...). At midgame, it finds the answer you need to stay alive until the late game. Late game, it finds your win condition plus a board sweeper (or other answer). Or two win conditions to fight through countermagic in a control mirror.
I could also see it showing up in a ramp deck, like the B/G Wolf Run deck Conley Woods took down a GP with. Primeval Titan to get enough lands, then tutor up two more two more Titans (or Titan and BSZ).
insert into edh
Turn 1: Vampiric Tutor
Turn 2: Demonic Tutor
Turn 3: Grim Tutor
Turn 4: Diabolic Tutor
Turn 5: Increasing Ambition
Turn 6: Beseech the Queen
Turn 7: Rune-Scarred Demon
Turn 8: Increasing Ambition(flashback)
EDH Staple, naturally.