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Hmmm......Wrath of God just kills all creatures for the same price when its played, so is it worth waiting a turn just to destroy some artifacts and enchantments as well? I would imagine in some situations that it would be, but most of the time Wrath of God is going to be better because the magus is too easily at risk of getting killed. Then again, if you don't own Wrath of God, or simply decide to play both in a deck, it would make sense to use him.

I think it's quite funny that he comes into play tapped. Since you could not "pop the disk" the turn he comes into play anyways. Given that he is a creature and subject to summoning sickness. And it's not like white has any easy way to give him haste.

Since he's a 2/4 - a rather effective blocker - it matters a lot that he comes into play tapped. He also wouldn't "be" the real Disk if he came into play untapped, it just wouldn't feel right. That said, Nevinyrral's Disk is a superior card - less subsceptible to removal and colourless so it can be played in any deck. White already has Wrath.

Arguably, while creatures are more suspectible, the option of having it run double duty as a creature that can gain benefits from creature oriented spells and abilities. Here's an amazing strategy, enchant your one magus of the disk with the 1 mana indestructibility. It destroys everything else on the field, except itself. Then you can still tap it again to destroy everything a second time, or beat down with your magus. If you can manage to get your magus up to 5/5, you can pay 1 mana with a spellbreaker behemoth to replay the wrath effect over and over without losing your creatures.

Shield of Kaldra. Need I say more?

Indestructibility that's all he needs.

COOOOOLZ

He's a wizard. That's what gives him an edge over other cards like with effects like his, such as Wrath of God or Nevinyrral's Disk. This lets him interact with cards that allow you to cycle for him (letting you get your reset button when you need it, and not at the expense of taking up multiple slots by throwing more than one in) and gives him a host of other tribal interactive advantages. He's also got that 2/4 body, which means you can lay him down confidently at turn four even if you don't necessarily plan on popping his disk right away.

Like my bling-bling?
-Timmy, magus of the disk.

That disk needs those tentacles coming out of it.

Flavor Flav's new groove.

YEA BOIII

shield of kaldra or elspeth makes disk dude happy

You know, if there's one thing that confuses me it's why this guy is white.

I mean, think about it. The original Nevinyrral's disk was not only colorless, but also belonged to Nevinyrral, who was a major necromancer with "draconian judgement" according to this card. Sure, Wrath of God is similar, but it still seems more like it should be Black.

I've never understood why White loves destroying everything so much. Isn't that supposed to be Red's job?

@Donovan_Fabian; Spellbreaker Behemoth makes it so that creature spells with 5 or greater power can't be countered. It doesn't say anything about being destroyed. I believe you were thinking of Spearbreaker Behemoth. That, and Indestructibility costs 4 mana, though I believe there's a green instant for 1 that makes them indestructible until end of turn- still has synergy, obviously.

Darksteel Plate will usher in a new the end of days.

Darksteel Plate is so very much better than Indestructibility here because Indestructibility only saves it once before being blown up itself. The Plate has the added bonus of being itself indestructible.

Darksteel Plate is a must on this guy. Add in Twilight Shepherd for s&g's.

my opponent dropped one of these on the table and first I countered with how he thought attacking me with Flavor Flav was gonna help his situation. then I cast a gather specimens and admired my new clock. :p

HEY MAGUS!

...Did you set it to Wumbo? :D

@Tommy9898: The Magus of the Disc is NOT named Timmy! His name must, and can only, be Larry.

Regarding flavor this seems indeed more black,
but that color keeps having problems when it goes to destroying artifacts, let alone enchantments (which red never quite managed to destroy either).
So Wizards made this Magus white because they didn't want black to get a board cleaner for enchantments and artifacts, even if Nevinyrral seems to be an exceptional Necromancer capable of destroying enchantments.
Maybe Nevinyrral is in fact a W/B guy? :D

Tough call on this one, whether or not it's better or worse than the original Disk. Mind you, that just means it's pretty bonkers that they even dared to make it in the first place. Disks should not be running around Standard, with or without legs. Or Extended either, for that matter. This guy is a hoser to end all hosers. Basically Akroma's Vengeance at half price.

Flavor Flav chills at his crib when he needs a break

End of turn, Natural Affinity, activate Magus of the Disk.

I'm a jerk.

@Mode - Necromage, not necromancer. Nevinyrral dealt death, necromancers control the dead.
And judgment followed by death is very common in White.

To the color confused: It's TIME. SPIRAL. Color pie is SUPPOSED to be JACKED UP(Color pie sucks anyway). Back when you were peeing yourself, White destroyed EVERYTHING. There is a white card for each permanent that destroys each type of permanent. It is not confused. YOU are confused.

@NARFNra

Maybe because Wizards wants to clarify that white purifies.. xD Think about it, white is the only color that has the ability to destroy any kind of permanent. -_- scumbag white... lol

Firstly, Planar Chaos was the messed up color pie set, not time spiral. Even then, the Planar Chaos color pie makes about as much sense as the normal one.

Secondly, mass removal has ALWAYS been a white effect. Artifact/enchantment removal has never been in black, and black's mass removal is more like black sun's zenith. The only time black got a wrath effect was in, guess what, planar chaos.

In fact this very same effect was printed as a white spell: akroma's vengeance.

Now, as for the flavor, you actually could argue that this guy should be black. Nevinyrral was a lich from Urborg, who controlled the city also named Urborg (depicted on the "Urborg" card). Liches are overwhelmingly black, and Urborg is just about the blackest place on Dominaria (especially now that it's also Urborg, tomb of Yawgmoth). According to Salvation's article on him, the city of Urborg "was once at war with Bogardan. Little is known about the war, but legend states that he was outmaneuvered and the city was swallowed by a volcano that tore up from the ground directly beneath it. His last act was to use the powerful Nevinyrral's Disk to deny his enemies any of the magical trove that might survive the flames, destroying himself and most of Urborg in the process. He is also the author of the Necromancer’s Handbook, the Bible of necromancy." Nevinyrral destroying his city simply to spite his enemies is a black maneuver. A passage from the Necromancer's Handbook is quoted on Drudge Skeletons, pretty conclusively affirming that Nevinyrral is black aligned.

This doesn't mean, however, that this magus must also be black aligned. The disc itself is an instrument of destruction, it has no will or motives of its own. Using the disc to exercise "draconian judgment" is very white oriented, which may also highlight a white side to Nevinyrral's governance of the city of Urborg. It might also highlight that the magus isn't exactly a follower of Nevinyrral's necromancy.

Jeez, Avacyn, Angel of Hope? Swing and laugh'

This magus must be missing a marble or two. He's read Nevinyyral's journals, he knows that activating Nevinyrral's Disk destroys everything in sight, including himself, and yet he still goes ahead and does it anyway.

Well hopefully he's at least smart enough to bring protection.

And obviously Wizards thought his color should reflect his effect (more akin to Wrath of God than anything, and indeed, Nevvy's Disk is often used in decks as a colorless wrath effect), because his lore is strictly .

The guy's got the Warlock's Wheel and knows full well it'll destroy everything around him - including himself - yet has guts enough to wield it anyway. Truly mad in a purifying (and white-mana) sort of way. Great card!

Like a silly Nevinyrral's Disk...

"What the hell! This 'Nevinyrral' is talking absolute garbage, I- wait... hang on... that's... yeah, I kinda see what he's saying... hmm... well... actually... I suppose... hmm, you know, now I think about it, this guy might be onto somethi- whoa, that's... wow, this guy is bang on! I'm getting mad just thinking about it! You know what? I'm gonna do it! I'm really gonna do it! I'm going to go blow up the world!"

I wonder how crazy this guy's disciples must be to willingly blow themselves up like that.

The mage wants you to press the nice, shiny reset button...


Favourite tricks so far?

1) Activating the ability while my good friend Obzedat, Ghost Council is in exile.

2) Having Treasury Thrull Imprinted on a Mimic Vat. Creating a token, pressing the button in response, then swinging the thrull token to bring back the mimic vat. Funtimes.

Is it racist to say "Allah ackbar" before activating his ability?

Every card in Time Spiral was a throwback to at least one previously printed card.

This card references Nevinyrral's Disk and is part of the "Magus" super cycle of rare creatures. The cards in Time Spiral all reference one of the most powerful artifacts ever; the others are Magus of the Candelabra, Magus of the Mirror, Magus of the Jar, and Magus of the Scroll.

The Planar Chaos part of the cycle focuses on powerful lands: Magus of the Tabernacle, Magus of the Bazaar, Magus of the Coffers, Magus of the Arena, and Magus of the Library. The Future Sight part of the cycle focuses on powerful enchantments: Magus of the Moat, Magus of the Future, Magus of the Abyss, Magus of the Moon, and Magus of the Vineyard.

'Nevinyrral' the necromage's name is a reference to celebrated sci-fi/fantasy author, Larry Niven.

Not sure why people question this card's color. It's White because the effect is White, not becauae of the set it's in: White has cards like Akroma's Vengeance, Austere Command, and Planar Cleansing, so White often can destroy these card types whereas Black and Red cannot. And if Nevinyrall did indeed use a disk to exact draconian judgment, that is a White motive, not Black or Red, so the color here was picked correctly. To think otherwise shows a lack of understanding of one of the core facets of MtG.

That said, I'm glad this is a creature. Even without Darksteel Plate or Avacyn, Angel of Hope lock shenanigans, my decks tend to have more creature recursion than artifact ones (especially the artifactless enchantment themed deck) and thus this fits in nicely.

Pretty unlucky that the guy who read all of Nevinyrral's writings just happened to have a disk on him, too!

He makes me feel like I am holding a nuclear launch key. It's more fun having him and not using him than it is using him, because then you don't have him...unless you give him the Gift of Immortality. I like this better than various mentioned methods of making him indestructible. "God loves me, biznatch! Let's see if he loves you, shall we?" BOOM! "Guess not..." 5/5

"Yo dawg! Check out mah bling!"

*planar annihilation*