Man, I thought people would like this card more than this. No comments even.
Sure, it's way worse than Llanowar Elves, but not HORRENDOUS right??
Lege
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(4 votes)
It ain't half bad in token decks actually, you can keep getting more and more mana and tokens every turn with this. Still not a stellar card.
KrosanGardener
★★★★☆ (4.6/5.0)(14 votes)
I love the flavor. You can imagine this guy in a bunch of Llanowar villages being all "and this is how you tap for green mana, young elf children."
ScissorsLizard
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0)(3 votes)
The best of the cycle. Though if Gezuz thinks he can get his Wilt Leaf Liege into play by discarding it to the mentor, he's got another thing coming...
jetzine
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
@Gezus82: You might want to re-read Wilt-Leaf Liege. I think there's a key word you're missing: "opponent." ;)
And the mentor? Dredge. Madness. And anything dealing with graveyard recursion. Like all cards, it has its place.
OD97
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(5 votes)
This card has madness and dredge written all over it. Also good for any card whose effect is played from your graveyard.
Gezus82
★★☆☆☆ (2.1/5.0)(4 votes)
I LOVE THIS CARD!! turn one him turn 2 discard a card for a llowanar elves and bam, guess what you just discarded, thats right, wilt-leaf liege. and besides what's wrong with turning all the useless cards in your hand into llowanar elves? I mean how many times have you been staring at a, well anything, and been thinking damn I wish I had a llowanar elves instead. and it also helps you get past that pesky 4 copy limit 5/5, and the art is amazing too
aw, damnit. the wilt-leaf thing is kind of frustrating. but this is still rly good. turning any unwanted card in your hand into a llowanar elves is nothing to be underrate.
izzet_guild_mage
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Again, I assert that there needs to be a card that makes you your own opponent...one can only dream...
Mode
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
Cards with replacement effects when they get discarded generally only work if the source from the effect is from an opponent for reasons like that, Gezus82.
Nontheless i agree that the possibility to turn any card in hand into a Llanowar Elf (moreover: into permanent mana accel) is pretty useful. In general directly using Llanowar Elves might be better, but when used along with the right cards this guy can be your friend. Although Wilt-Leaf Liege won't work, there are many cards which come in handy for discarding, like cards with Madness or Incarnations - Anger in particular, which allows you to offset the mana required to produce a Llanowar Elf immediately by tapping it since it gets haste (given that you control a Mountain).
MDStrawHat
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Not actually a bad card at all. Good for that stage in the game where picking up land sucks. Discard your land for an elf creature instead. Not Bad.
Aun
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(4 votes)
If you discard the llanowar elves its a big hard lulz. But so you could play them during your opponents turn which is hilariousl.
TopRomen
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(6 votes)
Get over here, Squee. There is no need for you to wonder why you are in a green deck that doesn't even splash red for you...
I love all the weird stuff in time spiral. Such fun. <3
WytLytnn
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
I worked out a deck where all 60 cards are creatures. It runs this with Rhys the redeemed, basking rootwalla, elvish archdruid, and llanowar mentor. Start with dryad arbor and possibly elvish spirit guides, for opening mana, play mentor, toss rootwalla for an elf and play it for its madness cost. Use Rhys to double the llanowar elves every turn ramping the archdruid casting emrakul early game, after getting khalni hydras for free, of course. Try it, its FUN!!! If its not a creature its not in the deck.(haze frog and acidic slime help, along with master of the wild hunt for creature destruction.)
bijart_dauth
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(3 votes)
this. card. is. flippn. amazing. combined with Rhys the Redeemed = infinite llanawar elves. well, eventually any way.
also works wonders in BG madness.
Psuedonaut
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(3 votes)
Yes. Dredge. Madness. Nice stuff.
T1 forest, this. T2 forest, use his ability, get a llanowar elf and a basking rootwalla T3 use his ability on another basking rootwalla(lucky!) Khalni Hydra
Or for kicks, throw an emrakul into the graveyard.
Crag-Hack
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0)(3 votes)
Turn your useless forests into... 1/1 forests... XD
jfre81
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
In the right deck I could see substituting two of these to free up two slots that would be taken by ordinary Llanowar Elves. Running G/W, make at least one of them Armageddon for after you bring out your Llanowar legion of mana production. Then cast Terravore after Armageddon (ideally) deprives your opponent(s) of mana.
Could also run in with some reanimate. Not all that is discarded is lost.
GrimjawxRULES
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
As Crag-Hack pointed out, this is kinda like a retrace mechanic on a creature. In terms of mana acceleration, this card is usually too slow compared to Llanowar Elves or one of its many functional reprints, however in terms of activating madness and graveyard triggers, this thing is pretty awesome. It basically adds and "Put a Llanowar Elves token onto the battlefield" onto every madness trigger in your deck (not to mention flashback cards like Roar of the Wurm)
For those of you who think that this is way worse than Llanowar Elves consider this: T1: forest, this T2: forest, activate this, Llanowar Elves T3: forest, activate this, 3 more Llanowar Elves T4: Bringer of the Green Dawn it lets you play more copies of Llanowar Elves though it does not replace it.
? I like this card. He literally just lets you play lanowar elves whenever you want. When you play a normal lanowar elves, you pay 1 green mana to play the card from your hand. So you discard a card to put lanowar elves on the feild for one for a green. Makes sense to me.
I know he's worse than lanowar elves in a lot of ways but... this is probably fun in EDH. especially now, with the populate mechanic. You can make more lanowar elves tokens with this guy without having to discard much. Sounds fun to me. ^^
feedbacker
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Wonder how efficient of a ramp you could make with this and populate cards
Salient
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0)(2 votes)
Relentless Elves!
These "discard a card: get a copy of such-a-such card" cards are wonderful with Doubling Season.
Yes, I know, I know, everything and its brother is wonderful with Doubling Season. But the card advantage generated from this pairing is also good in an incremental Spike sense, not just a wildholycrap Johnny sense. Run creatures with Scavenge (Deadbridge Goliath), get 2-for-1 Llanowar Elves, use Scavenge activations to pump your creatures, and.
A million better Johnny combos exist, sure, but try this one from a competitive perspective -- it's not powerful enough to see tournament play, but it plays smoothly and incrementally in the way that a ramp Spike player will appreciate. Playing , Pack Rats are a good place to start...
BibboTheFirst
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
This card is even more awesome in conjunction with Rhys the Redeemed. Get a llanowar token and start doubling them. Good stuff
InternetNinjacy
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It's a token, so Populate works well with this.
A_Real_Travesty
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This guy is almost perfect, but then I have to ask, "Y U NO DRUID?" He's nearly perfect for a Gilt-Leaf Archdruid deck, but that small little stumbling block makes it just slightly less efficient.
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Sure, it's way worse than Llanowar Elves, but not HORRENDOUS right??
And the mentor? Dredge. Madness. And anything dealing with graveyard recursion. Like all cards, it has its place.
turn one him turn 2 discard a card for a llowanar elves and bam, guess what you just discarded, thats right, wilt-leaf liege.
and besides what's wrong with turning all the useless cards in your hand into llowanar elves?
I mean how many times have you been staring at a, well anything, and been thinking damn I wish I had a llowanar elves instead. and it also helps you get past that pesky 4 copy limit
5/5, and the art is amazing too
aw, damnit. the wilt-leaf thing is kind of frustrating. but this is still rly good. turning any unwanted card in your hand into a llowanar elves is nothing to be underrate.
Nontheless i agree that the possibility to turn any card in hand into a Llanowar Elf (moreover: into permanent mana accel) is pretty useful.
In general directly using Llanowar Elves might be better, but when used along with the right cards this guy can be your friend.
Although Wilt-Leaf Liege won't work, there are many cards which come in handy for discarding, like cards with Madness or Incarnations - Anger in particular, which allows you to offset the mana required to produce a Llanowar Elf immediately by tapping it since it gets haste (given that you control a Mountain).
I love all the weird stuff in time spiral. Such fun. <3
well, eventually any way.
also works wonders in BG madness.
T1 forest, this.
T2 forest, use his ability, get a llanowar elf and a basking rootwalla
T3 use his ability on another basking rootwalla(lucky!) Khalni Hydra
Or for kicks, throw an emrakul into the graveyard.
Could also run in
In terms of mana acceleration, this card is usually too slow compared to Llanowar Elves or one of its many functional reprints, however in terms of activating madness and graveyard triggers, this thing is pretty awesome. It basically adds
T1: forest, this
T2: forest, activate this, Llanowar Elves
T3: forest, activate this, 3 more Llanowar Elves
T4: Bringer of the Green Dawn
it lets you play more copies of Llanowar Elves though it does not replace it.
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When you play a normal lanowar elves, you pay 1 green mana to play the card from your hand.
So you discard a card to put lanowar elves on the feild for one for a green. Makes sense to me.
I know he's worse than lanowar elves in a lot of ways but... this is probably fun in EDH.
especially now, with the populate mechanic. You can make more lanowar elves tokens with this guy without having to discard much. Sounds fun to me. ^^
These "discard a card: get a copy of such-a-such card" cards are wonderful with Doubling Season.
Yes, I know, I know, everything and its brother is wonderful with Doubling Season. But the card advantage generated from this pairing is also good in an incremental Spike sense, not just a wildholycrap Johnny sense. Run creatures with Scavenge (Deadbridge Goliath), get 2-for-1 Llanowar Elves, use Scavenge activations to pump your creatures, and.
A million better Johnny combos exist, sure, but try this one from a competitive perspective -- it's not powerful enough to see tournament play, but it plays smoothly and incrementally in the way that a ramp Spike player will appreciate. Playing
Gilt-Leaf Archdruid deck, but that small little stumbling block makes it just slightly less efficient.
fun with late-game land draw...