the trick is to play this as your third spell. and then immediately play your fourth.
Waffle_of_Bolas
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0)(3 votes)
Awesome with Ethersworn Cannonist orRule of Law =D
Donovan_Fabian
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.6/5.0)(5 votes)
It says each player though right? So it counters your own spells as well.
Qazior
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Schlappi - Erayo's ability goes onto stack on Release the ants and resolves first flipping and becoming enchantment. Then it would be Release the Ants' turn but its target is illegal and then it 'fizzles'
Chrs84
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
I have these guys, and the idea is a ton of fun, but you have to build around them for later because the advantage diminishes as the game goes on and more spells can be played per turn. Recently I see the artifact decks playing spells back and forth (from hand and play) as well as some 0 cost art cre and equip cards that make it very possible/fast to flip Erayo while not relying on your opponent to help you flip them...
Guest1763363352
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.8/5.0)(4 votes)
you know Erayo counts itself as it's fourth spell...so play it after your third and it automatically activates. playing a spell just constitutes putting it on the stack even if a spell is countered it is still considered played...so knowing that play three spells and use Erayo on the fourth but be careful because if she still has to resolve to get the effect...as for using Rule of Law...that is no fun at all its winning through people quitting the game it causes a lot of anger and hate believe me I know we had two people in our Magic group who ran that combo and no one ever wanted to play them. Just food for thought. Great card though and in team games its even better between two people playing 4 spells is no problem at all lol.
Ruins
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(4 votes)
turn 2 erayo flip:
cloud of faeries -> snap -> erayo -> lotus petal (having force of will or daze in hand)
turn 3
Arcane Labratory -> Game over
Kryptnyt
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
@Donovan- If it says opponent, then your teammates and yourself are not included.
jeff-heikkinen
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(4 votes)
@Guest1763363352: Incorrect. In order to trigger, it must be on the battlefield. In your scenario, Erayo is not on the battlefield when the fourth spell is cast, so it doesn't trigger.
Schlappi
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@ Forgeling, be careful with that, if you play it as your third spell, someone could respond to that - playing I donÄt know what instant which would be the fourth spell - so he doesn't get flipped that turn since Erayo is still on the stack when the fourth spell is played and not on the battlefield!!!
@ Donovan_Fabian Nope, it sais "...of each opponent..." - so unless you consider yourself your own enemy, it doesn't counter your spells!^^
Well, apart from the fact that I desperately want this card you've gotta pray that it doesn't get sniped into oblivion fast with toughness 1 before it gets flipped, though. I mean your opponents will want him gone! ;D
I mean any spell like Shock could easily kill it off... Still, what happens when the third spell was in fact Erayo itself, it gets on the field and then someone tries to kill him with Release the Ants. Would he get flipped before the Ants hit him? I'd say yes...???
Well, cya :-)
KillerWhiskey
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0)(7 votes)
If the third spell was played, Erayo is on the battlefield, and someone tries to Shock him, that would count as a fourth spell and his trigger would go off and resolve before Shock resolves. The burn spell would then have no legal targets and fizzle as a result.
If Erayo himself is the fourth spell, the trigger doesn't go off as he isn't on the battlefield. Someone might even cast a fourth spell while he's on the stack and prevent him from flipping.
Some decks actually do have combos that feature Erayo and another card, like Mana Maze or Arcane Laboratory, and are able to do a second-turn flip (as showcased by Ruins). I'm certain that Vintage decks could even do a turn 1 flip - Mox/Mox/Erayo/Mox, but that's hardly effective as most Vintage decks run even more restraining cards like Trinisphere.
If you're running combo with him, definitely use cards like Cloud of Faeries or Snap. Lotus Petal is good, but if you're running a right type of a deck, Gustha's Scepter might also come in handy.
If you're running casual, either go with the suspend mechanic or instants - play them during your opponents turn and make him help you out getting that fourth spell.
The card by itself is pure brilliance. Never before have I seen an effect with so much potential for only two mana.
Definitely a 5/5.
Mythwind
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I like this guy, but I wonder what happens if he is in the graveyard and Replenish is cast? Is he a creature or an enchantment?
ScissorsLizard
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(6 votes)
It may interest to know that this is the only card banned in 2 Headed Giant.
I know why, too. I knew a guy who played this in 2HG, and he could flip it pretty consistently on turn 1. There's pretty much no coming back from that...
V4LENWOOD
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This is a direct counter to any "Epic" spell cast from this block, as the Epic spell will in most cases be the first spell cast "copied" in any given turn.
izzet_guild_mage
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Actually, this doesn't do anything to stop an Epic spell (unless it's eaten up upon the intial casting). Epic spell copies are never cast. If they were, the Epic ability would say "no". And that'd be horrible design.
Combine this, Wild Evocation and any number of cards to force your opponent to discard their hand. Once that happens you'll play free spells every turn without being able to be touched, your opponent will draw a card and it'll either be countered or it'll be a land (unless they have uncounterable cards..) meaning you're basically playing the game by yourself at that point :D :(
Guest1162619373
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Boseiju, Who Shelters All says that the Erayo/Lab lock can be beaten. Also, any normally uncounterable spell can get past locks like that, so while the combo is fast and strong it isn't unbeatable.
Atali
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
There is no such thing as an unbeatable combo, but Erayo + Arcane Lab is one of the hardest locks in existence, and if you're going to build a deck to set it up, you are probably going to think ahead and put things in it to make its few cracks even harder to exploit. Time Stop can counter an uncounterable spell, as can Mindbreak Trap, you can Annex Boseiju, or just play it yourself so you can destroy it if your opponent tries to use it.
iSlapTrees
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Banned in 2 headed giant XD
MasterOfEtherium
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
Mox Opal, Ornithopter, Seat Of The Synod, Memnite SkullClamp, Lotus Pedal, This GIRL
Gabriel422
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Used to have a Ninja deck that either went Ornithopter into Ninja of the Deep Hours, or Erayo -> Ornithopter -> Unsummon Ornithopter -> Ornithopter. Made even better when Repeal came around.
made4ipod
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
No wonder it's banned in two headed giant...
Lavrant
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0)(4 votes)
Should be banned as an EDH general. No one wants to play against that.
Avitar_Diggs
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
My favorite EDH general. ;-)
Salient
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(2 votes)
I like legendary enchantments, and like things that *become* legendary enchantments even more, but the art for this one looks like discarded online-party-favor clip art.
Regardless, this is a delightfully weird way to protect storm combo and/or high tide combo from Force of Will (what are they going to do, assemble two Force of Wills?). It's not like blue has a hard time casting four spells in a turn. All the easier now that Gitaxian Probe exists! :)
Lord_of_Tresserhorn
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Why does the flip side of the card read Erayo Essence and not Erayo's Essence??
pumaman83
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Banned as EDH commander effective 9/20/11
pedrodyl
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
hey all the flip cards are finally fixed on the Gatherer. hooray. as for this card, well I like it. It doesn't require you to cast four spells yourself (although you should definitely have a way to in your deck, when your opponent sees this, they're not even going to cast 3) and when it's finally flipped, it only counters your opponents spells. I must break you for modern!
Yeah, my friend made a lockdown deck with this. No fun was had.
plopfill
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
For the question "Can you recur erayo with Hanna, Ship's Navigator?" from xDrSnuggles:
No.
709.2. In every zone other than the battlefield, and also on the battlefield before the permanent flips, a flip card has only the normal characteristics of the card. Once a permanent is flipped, its normal name, text box, type line, power, and toughness don't apply and the alternative versions of those characteristics apply instead.
Comments (41)
cloud of faeries -> snap -> erayo -> lotus petal (having force of will or daze in hand)
turn 3
Arcane Labratory -> Game over
@ Donovan_Fabian
Nope, it sais "...of each opponent..." - so unless you consider yourself your own enemy, it doesn't counter your spells!^^
Well, apart from the fact that I desperately want this card you've gotta pray that it doesn't get sniped into oblivion fast with toughness 1 before it gets flipped, though. I mean your opponents will want him gone! ;D
I mean any spell like Shock could easily kill it off... Still, what happens when the third spell was in fact Erayo itself, it gets on the field and then someone tries to kill him with Release the Ants. Would he get flipped before the Ants hit him? I'd say yes...???
Well, cya :-)
If Erayo himself is the fourth spell, the trigger doesn't go off as he isn't on the battlefield. Someone might even cast a fourth spell while he's on the stack and prevent him from flipping.
Some decks actually do have combos that feature Erayo and another card, like Mana Maze or Arcane Laboratory, and are able to do a second-turn flip (as showcased by Ruins). I'm certain that Vintage decks could even do a turn 1 flip - Mox/Mox/Erayo/Mox, but that's hardly effective as most Vintage decks run even more restraining cards like Trinisphere.
If you're running combo with him, definitely use cards like Cloud of Faeries or Snap. Lotus Petal is good, but if you're running a right type of a deck, Gustha's Scepter might also come in handy.
If you're running casual, either go with the suspend mechanic or instants - play them during your opponents turn and make him help you out getting that fourth spell.
The card by itself is pure brilliance. Never before have I seen an effect with so much potential for only two mana.
Definitely a 5/5.
I know why, too. I knew a guy who played this in 2HG, and he could flip it pretty consistently on turn 1. There's pretty much no coming back from that...
Regardless, this is a delightfully weird way to protect storm combo and/or high tide combo from Force of Will (what are they going to do, assemble two Force of Wills?). It's not like blue has a hard time casting four spells in a turn. All the easier now that Gitaxian Probe exists! :)
as for this card, well I like it. It doesn't require you to cast four spells yourself (although you should definitely have a way to in your deck, when your opponent sees this, they're not even going to cast 3) and when it's finally flipped, it only counters your opponents spells.
I must break you for modern!
No.
709.2. In every zone other than the battlefield, and also on the battlefield before the permanent flips, a flip card has only the normal characteristics of the card. Once a permanent is flipped, its normal name, text box, type line, power, and toughness don't apply and the alternative versions of those characteristics apply instead.
I no longer have any friends.
Locked.