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Ember Shot

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Ember Shot

Comments (107)

stormkeeper
★☆☆☆☆ (1.6/5.0) (8 votes)
I painfully remember my opponent killing me with this... ...
...2/5
Mooby
★★☆☆☆ (2.4/5.0) (5 votes)
Apparently a cantrip in red costs 4.
ScissorsLizard
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (8 votes)
This is the worst burn spell I've ever seen.
True_Mumin
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (12 votes)
@ Mooby: M10 update: Apparently a cantrip in red costs 6.
Vadoff
★★★☆☆ (3.1/5.0) (8 votes)
Probably a strong contender for the worst MTG card I have ever seen... 0.5/5

@stormkeeper
Why would you ever give this even a 2/5? Does this card seem "below average but playable" to you?
holgir
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0) (12 votes)
It is true, Ember Shot is really bad. The strange thing is that you don't find many cards which come near to it in terms of functionality, at least in monored (dealing 3 damage and drawing a card).
With a blue splash I can just think of Electrolyze (just dealing 2 but with 2 possible targets) or a kicked Illuminate with Variable Colorless=3 costing 6BlueRed all in all but drawing three cards - both cards are uncommon and Illuminate just a sorcery. In the rare department we get Prophetic Bolt which is strictly superior.
It seems that the developers were very anxious that a cheap common cantripping burn spell would be quite dangerous for the environment (but, would you really play it at 5Red ... or even 4Red outside of limited?). Well, I'm sorry, way too many words on a bad card...
MrPink343
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0) (17 votes)
Back in the day when I didn't have many cards, I included this in my very first burn deck. It's not something I'm proud of.
Mode
★★☆☆☆ (2.2/5.0) (4 votes)
Poor burn spell, for what reason deserved this card such an ridiculous high cantrip cost increase?
True_Smog
★★★☆☆ (3.4/5.0) (7 votes)
What a horiible and unplayable spell. It is so bad that I love it.
combomaster
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0) (6 votes)
oh my god - does drawing a card really cost 6? I haven't seen 7 land in play with my red deck since people told me Trained Orgg was a bad card!
jhimbob
★★☆☆☆ (2.7/5.0) (3 votes)
What on earth? This is horrible.
Ava_Adore
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0) (5 votes)
I see where they were coming from, but think about it, lightning bolt is 3 for r, drawing a card costs 6?
couldnt they have made this a slowtrip and decreased its cost to 2r.

but i see why they made it like that, but it doesnt stop it from being crap
1/5
Havens
★★☆☆☆ (2.7/5.0) (3 votes)
i would take browbeat over this anyday, 3 for either 5 damage or 3 for 3 cards
Neutralion
★☆☆☆☆ (1.2/5.0) (3 votes)
Can I be vulgare specially for this card??? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase
spectermonger
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (7 votes)
Amazing...use this on chimney imp and you have some amazing synergy. If you want to be crafty, throw in sorrow's path for some fun
FugimSky
★★☆☆☆ (2.9/5.0) (5 votes)
Even when I started the game, I understood that this card was only meant to be played in limited. But even back (started at end of onslaught block just as mirrodin came out) I hated this card and found it to be worthless.
Mustached_Stranger
★★☆☆☆ (2.3/5.0) (3 votes)
This card is way over powered. It does the same thing as Lightning Bolt, but costs 6 more, AND it lets you draw a card? Bigger = better, and this thing is gigantic.
18scsc
★★★☆☆ (3.6/5.0) (5 votes)
well it is embers not flame or electicty. browbeat is betear obvisaly
Enchantment_Removal
★☆☆☆☆ (1.0/5.0) (3 votes)
There is no price on a cantrip.
Etiens
★★★☆☆ (3.7/5.0) (5 votes)
I've found a way to make this card burn : throw it in a fire. (That was the very first card I've burned and/or ripped apart, back when I was 10 and cards were somewhat "sacred" to me xD)
Azuredrake89
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0) (4 votes)
0.5/5. Why would I pay for seven lightning bolts if I can get the same effect on the actual lightning bolt card? This makes Volcanic Hammer look awesome (its not bad but LB is better). And the card draw effect? Doesnt make it better by a whole lot.
RichardJesperson
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0) (8 votes)
The only good thing about this card is giggling at the comments here ;)
channelblaze
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0) (6 votes)
Wow, lightning bolt is great. Cantripping bolt, amazing! 7 mana....not so much.
dberry02
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0) (5 votes)
One of the few OP spells in Magic to take out a Storm Crow.
XTwistedsoulX
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (1 vote)
MrPink343 just made me giggle.
ChampionofSquee
★★★☆☆ (3.1/5.0) (8 votes)
so what you're saying is that for just 6 more than lightning bolt i can draw one card? i'd say 5/5 jk this thing sucks more than paris hilton
stratoscythe
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (5 votes)
I ain't wasting 7 mana for this shit
VoidedNote
★★☆☆☆ (2.4/5.0) (4 votes)
Players bring good cards to market, use good cards in their tourneys, and throw their worst cards away.

Please burn this trash. It's sad to see that a card this bad could make it into the Xbox MTG game.
Robface
★★★☆☆ (3.3/5.0) (3 votes)
Cantrip =/= 6 mana.
ClockworkSwordfish
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0) (39 votes)
Red doesn't get too many cantrips... But this is like saying that you don't get to drive Porsches very much so here's the steering wheel and you owe me 20 grand.
GainsBanding
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (3 votes)
What? Is this a misprint? Was there some other card or some theme in this set that wanted cards to have a high mana cost? Or is this just a joke?
blindthrall
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.7/5.0) (3 votes)
Format-defining. Better hope they don't draw into Chimney Imp.
Radagast
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0) (4 votes)
Sadly enough, by the time you have mana to cast this piece of drek, your opponent should have enough mana to produce a 4/4 or larger Wood Elemental... which means this thing won't help you AND you're going to be killed by one of the worst creatures in the game.

Still kills Chimney Imps, so that's good.
Shinigami-2099
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (3 votes)
uhhh this card makes me sick... how does adding a draw to a lightning bolt add 6 mana? You guys dropped the ball epicly hard... This is unglued
Spags
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (3 votes)
Almost as powerful as the almighty Storm Crow.
MasterOfEtherium
★☆☆☆☆ (1.1/5.0) (7 votes)
Awesome Card And Its An Instant!
Mata-nui3
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (3 votes)
Kills unaided Storm Crow...
Londonbrig0
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
Situations where I would use this card:
Exile from my hand for a blazing shoal
Discard from my hand for Chandra Ablaze
ROBRAM89
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
Bull Shot (common)
6
Instant

Draw a card.

- - -

Wouldn't print this, now would you?
TheSwarm
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
ummm... very bad.
jsttu
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
THE most embarrassing way to die from a burn deck. Of course your opponent should be equally embarrassed to run it.
JL_Weber
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (2 votes)
Well designed card, one of my absolute favorites. Red shouldn't get card draw (even a cantrip) and if it does you should pay through the nose for it, and you do.
Kruzewah
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
You can always just imprint it on Spellbinder!
It's the same as the play + equip cost.....
desolation_masticore
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
So at 7 CMC red can either deal 3 to a target and draw a card or Destroy all creatures and lands in play? Basically you can ping draw or destroy the world.
Destruction3402
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
Arguably the worst card ever?
divine_exodus
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
So apparently cantrips in red cost 6cmc.
Kirbster
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (25 votes)
If this is the result of the dwarves' best coal... well, I'd hate to see what they sell.
draco_nite
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Six mana to draw a card.
Six mana.
JaxsonBateman
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (2 votes)
This is hilarious. Funny back in the days when they were trying to work out costs and effect ratio - where you get Time Walk for an extra turn at 2 mana, but attaching a cantrip to Lightning Bolt costs 6? These days its been more or less standardised to 2 or 3, but 6 is just insane, and it's funny to think there was ever a time when R&D thought otherwise.
Shoe2
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (1 vote)
The dumb part here is there is sort of a formula with cantrips that this card doesnt even follow. We wll use Volcanic Hammer as the base card here because back then that was the standard. Cantrip cost 2 colorless, and sometimes red card made it cost 1 more mana. that brings us to 4R at the highest. I still am not sure why they made this cost so much. That said...I am sure there is a place for this in a red deck somewhere that doesn't run blue
AndreidaGiant
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
i lol'd when i saw this card!!! it so terrible
OmegaSerris
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (1 vote)
I just saw this in DotPW 2012 in the Chandra deck. I think I stared at it for five minutes, trying to figure it out. I scoured the flavor text and margins for SOME ability I was missing. Alas, all I found was jank.

For 6Red, it should "As long as this is in your library you may pay 6 to draw a card." And even then, it would probably go unused.
Dragonmaster3.0
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (8 votes)
This card is just junk. The best thing about it is laughing at all the comments.When would you ever use this?!
Woozly
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
STRICLTY BETTE %THAN LIGHTNING BOLT
Gaffy00
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
Strictly better then Storm Crow.
Lyoncet
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0) (18 votes)
That's funny; I throw the Dwarves' best coal away too! What a coincidence!

:p
Ladnarud
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (15 votes)
Way too OP'ed. Needs to be a sorcery and cost 1 more red.
TherealphatMatt
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
001010011100101110
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (10 votes)
Are you saying that I can pay 6 extra to a Lightning Bolt in order to draw a card?

BROKEN!!!
MasterOfEtherlum
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (3 votes)
Dude A Great Card Bro It Has A Lightning Bolt And A Cantrip For Six More Mana Dude So, Neat, And, Know.You!!!!
Sk8er_Boi_1999
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Kills a creature AND replaces itself. Awesome
mattblack04
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Let's see..I can either use this, or Flame Wave, or 7CM. I'd rather toss the Dwarf.
james2c19v
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Bad card, but when you're playing burn and you have 7 mountains and nothing in your hand, this is a welcome draw. You get the three damage in and speed up drawing your kill spell by a turn.

I wonder what the cost would have to be to make it a 4-of for RDW. 4Red? 3Red?
dontmess17
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0) (6 votes)
this would have gone brilliantly in unglued or unhinged
metalevolence
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0) (4 votes)
hilariously, this card is solid in duels of the planeswalkers 2009.
ax_morph
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Just hope your opponent doesn't have Ignite Memories....
Baconradar
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (16 votes)
You guys are missing the obvious design here.

Flare is 2R. You draw one card and you do 1 damage. Obviously the colourless is to draw the card and the red is for the damage. This is a balanced spell because red is supposed to suck at cantrips.

Triple those two colourless mana = 6R. So you do one damage and draw three cards.

Wait, draw three cards? That isn't very red. Better make it do 3 damage.

And there you have a brand new magic card.

Gabriel422
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0) (1 vote)
CARD ADVANTAGE! CARD ADVANTAGE! CARD ADVANTAGE! ......
luca_barelli
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0) (8 votes)
So, I'm paying 6 extra for a cantrip.

Awesome.
Totema
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0) (13 votes)
MTG players bring poor cards to market, use good cards in their decks, and throw this complete junk away.
Saikuba
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (1 vote)
I would say that this probably came about as a result of them wanting a red cantrip, but deciding to make it unusuable because red shouldn't get good card draw, but then I asks myself: did they really test this out at 6 and determine that it was too easy to use?
Salient
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0) (14 votes)
"Man, I can't believe we convinced those R&D dupes we throw our best coal away."

"I know. And can you believe they took that trade we offered? Let us borrow seven of your mountains for a turn, and we'll give you a Shock and a Zap!"

"Heh. Suckers."
Dolorosa
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0) (2 votes)
Tap all 7 mana, and your opponent knows it's over. Turn 7, the game is down to the wire, this is it. Go big or go home. He's nervous, he's got no removal. Oh god, what is it? You tapped ALL your mana, this is gonna hurt...
"BOOM. THREE DAMAGE! SUCK IT. That just happened, ***."
Draw your card, you stallion. You've earned it.
Ragamander
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (33 votes)
You guys don't understand why its casting cost is 6Red. Here's the true story.

First, what, exactly, is a burn spell? Ember Shot is you throwing burning coals at someone. Lightning Bolt is you siphoning the immense power of Mother Nature to summon forth a colossal bolt of electricity directed with pinpoint accuracy at a target that may be no larger than a fly.

They both deal 3 damage. Let me remind you: that's enough to kill a fully-grown elephant.

So yeah, that's some really damn good coal, but why the extra 6 ?

Well, the dwarves would normally only sell you their worst coal, and it would cost you Red. But you're no pushover in the marketplace; you want the best of the best, and you WILL get what you want, standard trading conventions be damned! So you coerce and bribe your way into a single dwarven merchant's private coal stocks. There's some good dwarven coal there, and its dwarven owner is reluctantly willing to part with it for a mere 2Red.

But NO. You want the best of the best coal, not just some lame, second-rate, good coal. Yes, you want the real deal; dwarven military-grade coal. But no dwarf in their right mind would deal in weapons-grade fuel.

So you go to the black coal market. You scour the underground, looking for a dwarf shady enough to successfully smuggle the truly best of the best coal out of the dwarven military installations where they are stored. After literally DAYS of tireless, frantic searching, you find one such dwarf crouched in a small side-passageway, shrouded in shadows. He offers you the coal of your wildest dreams for the low price of 4Red, but you have to keep it on the down-low.

Adding in processing fees and the cost the time and resources expended during procurement, it comes to 5Red. The other 1 is because you haven't been to the gym lately, and you can't throw it far enough without magic. Oh, and the card-draw comes from some bargain-bin spellbook you found while searching for the ideal coal.

And THAT is why Ember Shot costs 6Red.
JARYISM
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Even Galvanoth wouldn't play this.
EGarrett01
★★★☆☆ (3.7/5.0) (7 votes)
What a deal guys, seven bolts for the price of one!

Oh, wait. It's one bolt for the price of seven. Uhm...
Cthulhu_Shin
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0) (4 votes)
This is obviously a overflow bug. The card must deal 18 damage (6 lightning bolts + 1 mana for card draw) but magic only uses 4 bits for damage so the maximum is damage that can be dealt is 15. This cards resets the counter and overflows 3 damage.
Maraxas-of-Keld
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0) (2 votes)
I LOVE this card. Totally going to run it in a mono-red control with Surreal Memoir, get some card advantage goin ON yo
Ligerman30
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
How to make a card like this good:

1R Firecracker

Instant
Deals 2 damage to target creature or player, draw a card.
Explode 1R (Cast this card from the graveyard then remove it from the game. Cast this as a sorcery.)
When you explode this card it deals 3 damage instead of 2.

Then make it uncommon and cost 50c and 65c shipping. There you go, a good card.

My card: 4/5
This card: 0/5
shadenfreude
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I found one of these in my collection and find it very useful for trading negotiations. "Hey, I've had my eye on your Liliana for a while now, but I think you'll like this...."
Shadoflaam
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (5 votes)
No, no, no. See, you're paying 1R for the 3 damage, so Searing Spear. Then the card draw is an extra 1. Instant speed card draw adds another 1 onto that, so you have 3R. But it's gotta be inefficient if it doesn't cost you a card, so it adds on an extra 1. And as for that last 2 colorless mana? That's so that you can't play this and Storm Crow on the same turn. Otherwise it would be broken.
CorkBulb
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Way. Too. Overcosted.

0.5/5
Hermeezey
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
This has to cost 7, otherwise you could play this and OP Chimney Imp on the same turn.
phoenixfire666
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It's upsetting to think of all the excellent things you can do with 7 mana when you have this card in hand
zeibura
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0) (2 votes)
I think the mana cost on this was a printing error.
BongRipper420
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (1 vote)
One of those cards that gets progressively worse with each new release. Is there anyway to rate this below 0.5/5?
Blackworm_Bloodworm
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (1 vote)
This should have cost 2Red.
1Red for Searing Spear and 1 for the cantrip.
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Hey, I just did a draft recently with my neighbors random card pool. I picked this thing and it worked like a charm.
But I would not use this thing outside of limited, unless I had a nifty strategy.

1.5/5... still pretty handy in a limited environment.
martianshark
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0) (8 votes)
This card isn't bad at all. If you have 6 Goblin Electromancers on the battlefield, it's like a lightningbolt, AND you get to draw a card!
patronofthesound
★★☆☆☆ (2.5/5.0) (2 votes)
Unrealistic.

Believable at five, even sorcery speed.

-1/5.
Aquillion
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Seven mana?!
XaiviarNightwing
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
"Its not that bad. 1 red for 1 damage sorcery speed. +1 converted for instant speed. x 3 for 3 damage. +1 for draw. And then its good because it doesn't cost 4RRR."
Was the argument in the R&D department.
Edit: Plus what about all the red cards that depend on converted mana cost?
Ferlord
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
"Nicol Bolas, did you switch our best coal with the poor coal?"

"...... Noooo,"
Earthdawn
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Overcosted since it's common. I'd still use this in Limited.
sweetgab
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Searing Spear + 2 for card draw = 3R. It seems so reasonable that we'll surely see it one day.
kronos1225
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0) (4 votes)
*flavor-wise* why do i have to run dry my whole country from mana to throw a piece of coal,while i can cast a lighting bolt just by looking to a mountain ???
Arachnos
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (6 votes)
The unstoppable force to Chimney Imp's immovable object. You can kill the Imp with this, but then, his ability negates the cantrip you've just paid 6 mana for.
Continue
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
One day, I want to see 1RedRed for a cantrip Lightning Bolt. For now, Electrolyze will have to do. This, on the other hand, is a festering turd of a card.
Sweater
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (3 votes)
You can't compare everything to Lightning Bolt, guys. Or any other card for this one's sake.
Hunter06
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Ember Sh*t... yeah, I totally men't 'Shot'

5/5 Stars
StyrofoamKing
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I'm tempted to put one in my deck, just so I can kill someone and humiliate them at the same time.
Me: You just got Ember Shot.
*Draws superfluous card. Mike drop.*
SirLibraryEater
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Workers for R&D put poor cards in sets, good cards in their decks, and throw their best cards away.
Aremath
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@Ragamander: That is probably the funniest comment I've seen on gatherer.

The card: for the same mana cost you can just deal 7 damage using searing flesh or cinder storm

In fact, {6}{R} is one of the worst mana costs.

you can get Skittish Valesk, a 5/5 with a downside,
Trained Orgg, a vanilla 6/6,
Twist Allegiance, a card that gets worse as you develop your board
Vicious Shadows, an enchantment that sees some EDH play since it deals some damage at least.
Faultgrinder, a 4/4 trample stapled to stone rain
Karplusan Giant, a 3/3 with a small upside

None of these cards come with the MAD VALUE that Ember Shot gives you. You could draw a Jace, the Mind Sculptor or a Batterskull off of this card (think that through for a second).

At least it's an instant
shotoku64
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
At least it replaces itself. 1/5

Wait, that card you draw could be another Ember Shot

.5/5
syntheticbiology232
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I...I...I just spewed bile everywhere
mbarker1776
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Maybe they wanted a card to make Aladdin's Ring look reasonable? Wait...
Enelysios
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Why can't I rate any lower!!