Only a 3.5, your kidding right? 2 burns back to your hand for 3? Thats incredible.
Stray_Dog
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
If you have kitted your deck out with reliable burns then the random element should not be much of a problem.
Donovan_Fabian
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(1 vote)
I don't know if people realize this, but this is one of the best cards in the set. It re-snags your removal cards repeatedly. Even if it snags a ramp card for you, how awesome is that? Grabs your stagger shock one turn, and then growth spasm or etc. Its crazy good if the only cards in your graveyard also have rebound, aka consuming vapors and staggershock in a b/r deck. This will probably be underestimated for a long time until people realize it basically increases your removals by a quarter.. 2 of these can turn eight removals into 12 and so on.
don_miguel
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(1 vote)
cast bitominous blast and cascade into this may be funny
Duffey
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I made a deck using this and Memonic Wall to bring back this to my hand and allows for board control with burn while beating down with weak creatures
Megrimage
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
how do you guys play this card, I mean physically... do you shuffle the cards up and randomly pick one? (then putting the graveyard back int he right order)
Ezenthar
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(5 votes)
@Megrimage: It doesn't matter what order the cards in your graveyard are. The graveyard is a part of your field that anyone can pick up at any time and put back down in any order.
I imagine that when playing this you'd take out the instants from your graveyard, turn them so the back is facing you, shuffle them and pick one at random, then put the others back into your graveyard.
Vinifera7
★★★☆☆ (3.4/5.0)(4 votes)
@Ezenthar: I beg to differ. You cannot change the order of cards in a graveyard.
404.2. Each graveyard is kept in a single face-up pile. A player can examine the cards in any graveyard at any time but normally can’t change their order.
Dragek
★☆☆☆☆ (1.6/5.0)(4 votes)
@ Vinifera and Ezenthar
Graveryard order only matters in legacy, any other format and you're allowed to change the order as you please. So, if you're playing legacy, just hope you have a large enough die :P
theis999
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Why go for random? you only need to play 4 Lightning Bolt and 4 Naya Charm and no other instans to have both a engine and unrandomise this card.
channelblaze
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I really like this card, personally. I find that it's amazing to return a pair of staggershocks with this, or really anything else similar (lightning bolt anyone?). It's not super amazing, and I'm not going to claim that it's certainly constructed worthy, but I think it's certainly a good card.
Also, Vinifera7 is right, you can't mess with the order of you graveyard.
4/5, imho
achilleselbow
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0)(6 votes)
Doesn't anyone read the rulings?
"If you're playing a format involving only cards from the _Urza's Saga_(TM) set and later, you may change the order of your graveyard at any time. That means the easiest way to choose an instant card at random from your graveyard is to take all the instant cards in your graveyard, turn them face down, shuffle them, and pick a card. Then you just put the rest back."
So yes, technically the rules state that you cannot change the order of your graveyard, but they officially stopped printing cards that care about graveyard order years ago, so if you're not playing with any older cards, it's no more relevant than how you arrange your permanents on the board if no one is playing Chaos Orb.
Anyway, this is an interesting concept, but much too slow for traditional red decks. Could definitely find a home in some variant of red/blue control.
Guest1162619373
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@NeoSin : The CC is 4, not 3, and it's at sorcery speed which is why it's ~4
@don_miguel : It would be funny, but only if you already have a Bituminous Blast in your graveyard as the Cascade trigger resolves before the spell that triggers the effect actually resolves.
@Donovan_Fabian : Consuming Vapors is a sorcery.
SoulShatterer
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Heh, to Randomize this, we usually just create a stack of all instants in the graveyard and roll a d6/8/10/12 and bring back the card down the corresponding number.
ScissorsLizard
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Cthulu!
lorendorky
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Seems like a fantastic cascade off of Bituminous Blast, it won't hit the blast but it will hit something else and provide a ton of value for 3BR.
Maraxas-of-Keld
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Red card advantage and random, both done right.
http404error
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Sure looks pretty damn surreal.
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
If shuffling your graveyard is an issue, you could use dice-rolls.
RavenousRecoil
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
PERFECT. It's great when you run Mono Red and you could really use those TWO early Lightning Bolts
Tynansdtm
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
If only this card returns instants or sorceries, you can totally chain two of them together.
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I imagine that when playing this you'd take out the instants from your graveyard, turn them so the back is facing you, shuffle them and pick one at random, then put the others back into your graveyard.
I beg to differ. You cannot change the order of cards in a graveyard.
404.2. Each graveyard is kept in a single face-up pile. A player can examine the cards in any graveyard
at any time but normally can’t change their order.
Graveryard order only matters in legacy, any other format and you're allowed to change the order as you please. So, if you're playing legacy, just hope you have a large enough die :P
Also, Vinifera7 is right, you can't mess with the order of you graveyard.
4/5, imho
"If you're playing a format involving only cards from the _Urza's Saga_(TM) set and later, you may change the order of your graveyard at any time. That means the easiest way to choose an instant card at random from your graveyard is to take all the instant cards in your graveyard, turn them face down, shuffle them, and pick a card. Then you just put the rest back."
So yes, technically the rules state that you cannot change the order of your graveyard, but they officially stopped printing cards that care about graveyard order years ago, so if you're not playing with any older cards, it's no more relevant than how you arrange your permanents on the board if no one is playing Chaos Orb.
Anyway, this is an interesting concept, but much too slow for traditional red decks. Could definitely find a home in some variant of red/blue control.
@don_miguel : It would be funny, but only if you already have a Bituminous Blast in your graveyard as the Cascade trigger resolves before the spell that triggers the effect actually resolves.
@Donovan_Fabian : Consuming Vapors is a sorcery.