Pretty sweet bomb in Limited. I imagine once this guy gets going it should be pretty easy to just end the game.
Superllama12
★★☆☆☆ (2.2/5.0)(3 votes)
Imagine how busted this would be if you could detain lands. That would be insane in Legacy Reanimator, but thankfully, they banned land detaining
Lotsofpoopy
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.9/5.0)(11 votes)
Detain is a very powerful ability. How do I know this? Because I am a pro. Detaining 2 creatures every time it attacks? This is phenomenal. I think even non-pros might know that.
At first it may look like a weaker version of Frost Titan, but detaining is much more powerful than tapping. Detain locks abilities which don't require their source to tap, and you can't get rid of detain, while you can untap your pernaments with various means. This is powerful guy for it's guild. Don't forget what's all guild about... I love Azorius! :)
Demento_Recraves
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
I was excited, because I thought he was riding a lammasu at first, but I see it doesn't have hooves... :(
ThisisSakon
★★★☆☆ (3.7/5.0)(9 votes)
@Lotsofpoopy: You're not a pro, stop saying that -_-
Trygon_Predator
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
@ Demento_Recraves: I wish I knew what that creature was...
This looks set to be highly annoying in limited. Probably of lesser threat to Selesnya token swarms, but will still fly over a lot of things.
Tiggurix
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
That thing it's riding on looks way too fat and bulky to be able to fly, even if it were magical. -.-
majinara
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Well, this is a worse version of frost titan. The titan is harder to kill, has much better stats, costs less mana, requires only one color, can tap lands and cap tan stuff the turn it enters play. It only taps one permanent a turn, but it's still far more powerful than this guy. That beeing said: this archon ain't that bad either. It's obviously a bomb in limited, and somewhat playable in Commander. In standard... I think it's a bit too expensive. I'll give it a 3.5.
Dabok
★★★☆☆ (3.6/5.0)(5 votes)
@majinara : You make valid points. However, I feel that comparing this card to a titan is unfair. Not only are those titans mythic creatures, but they were part of the very strong mythic categories that just pushes powercreep to the limit. If we look at this card pre/post titan-level-mythics era, it's actually quite worth it for it's cost. Although I tend to agree that it costing 7 is too much, the detain ability is new and seems quite strong, so if this card would've only costed 6, maybe it would've been a problem. It's quite hard to tell. 4/5 for me
Doom_Lich
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
I hope you weren't attached to that planeswalker. Or those creatures. Or those artifacts. Because now I got that shit locked down.
rollinsclone
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
It's high cost yes, but it's almost a flying Frost Titan which I can't see being a bad thing.
pedrodyl
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(3 votes)
A definite reason to play Azorious in the prerelease, since you can automatically use this card.
ninjaboy05
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
@ Lotsofpoopy: You are the most failtastic troll I have ever seen. And I'm the guy who burned Daanz on his storm crow troll attempt on the card Darkblast. If your going to troll use a line that doesn't make you sound like a certain hygiene product. Besides we can all tell you are probably some 13 year old noob who calls on his mom to wipe his nose. As for the card. I do like what he does. He is a fine bomb in limited and could be a good win condition in U/W control.
TraRobins
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This is like a Frost Titan, but slightly less broken, but more broken at the same time.
AmericanVigor
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This guy is fantastic in limited - during the prerelease, I was using IZZET but splashed white for America, and in conjunction with Hypersonic Dragon, those guys controlled the skies when they were on the battlefield together.
Give this guy haste and have a party.
themicronaut
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I think this card should be rated at 4 stars. It's not a mythic rare like Frost Titan so that is not a fair comparison. And in Limited at least this guy in a monster! I played Azorious at the pre-release today and when this guy came out and I got to attack he pretty much sealed up the game. You are making two (2) permanents effectively useless for most of 2 turns. Big creatures? Annoying artifacts? Forget about it.
Oldschoollands
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This card is better than people think. This and Martial Law flat out dominated creture matchups at the pre release every time he hit the table i untapped and that was game even if my opponent had one more turn it was useless as there Hypersonic dragons and other big nasties were just watching as this guy along with Skymark Roc pounded face over and over again. 4.5 of 5 only because its costs 7 but you can delay the game long enough with u/w detain long enough to get him into play.
DeftMunky
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This guy is huge in limited. If gets to attack, the game is often over. The ability to repeatedly detain two creatures means this guy will likely hit the opponent along with another attacking creature. There is no question he's expensive and somewhat small, but he demands attention.
TherealphatMatt
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Are you serious? 3.5? People are really underestimating detain. This guy is really solid.
lagg
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
In standard, this guy is somewhat solid but if I have 7 mana and a controll shel (which is what you need if you ever want to land this), but I prefer Drogskol Reaver instead. In limited, if you untap with this it is almost a game over... it's resistant to almost all of the commom-uncommon removals.
CaptainNinJoe
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Amazing in Limited. Got the promo and another from a basic pack, but the rest of my pool was trash (I couldn't use any of the other 5 rares). The only games I managed to win were won by beating face with this guy. Maybe a little pricy, but a good effect nonetheless.
WiNGSPANTT
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The ability is game-ending, but 6 mana is still a little rough, especially for Blue/White. Would have preferred a smaller creature at 5 mana, or the same but legendary at 5.
Potsofloopy
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Detain is very powerful ability. How do I know this! Because novice like me spends many times detaining 2 creatures every time I play Mono-Black controlo deck? This is like powerful removal spell! I think even novice might know this. (The horsey this fun guy rides, he is like 'Problems?')
JeanNiBee
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0)(1 vote)
Bounce this with Cloudshift or Restoration Angel.. whee.
Ferlord
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(5 votes)
I thought it said when it came into play, NOT WHEN IT ATTACKED!
HOLY! A 4/5 flyer for 7 is already good in limited, NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT Trestle Troll won't be able to block now!
Purplerooster
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Perfect topper for a detain deck, this wins games late time and time again.
Kryptnyt
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
sssssssoooooooooo eeeeeeeeeexxxxxxxppppppppeeeeeennnnnnsssssiiiiiiiiivvvvveeee. I'd play it at 5 mana, maybe six, but they might as well have costed this at 9 or 10. It's like a throwback to Blazing Archon except it sucks in reanimator.
I run two of these in my Azorius detain and sky attack deck. When he hits the table, if the opponent doesn't have a removal spell in hand, it's game over. Keep a counter spell, dissipate, syncopate in your hand for the win....
In a control deck, 7 mana for his double detain ability is not too much at all. This guy see's play almost every game I draw him in.
NewerEtherium
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
That Is Pretty Annoying Id Rather Attack Then Be Detained Every Turn And Sit There Doing Nothing
Tsuichoi
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
So nice, i'll detain 'em twice
But seriously the real clause to note is its any permanent- Your opponents lands, his creatures, his Birthing Pod, his Mindslaver... and in EDH, hes not locked down till end of turn, but has to wait all the way until YOU have your turn.
On a flavor note, i wonder what that Triumvirate is, perhaps it is an organization within the Azorius of bureaucratic importance which will be detailed later on, or even receive the honor of its own card- One can hope.
A welcomed and amazing addition to the might of the Azorius.
4.5/5
SuitofArmor
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Just played a game with him as the MVP. He shines with Cackling Counterpart buddies to help him detain up to 6.
Trygon
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Two of these are going to go into my Altered Graveborn deck.
Deus_Mortuus
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
A card that will provoke a smirk from those who succeed in playing it and howls of anguish from everyone else. This may be true for a great many cards, but the dual detain after every attack does almost make up for the high price.
sonorhC
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@Tsuichoi, it says "nonland", so it's not quite any permanent. Still, by the time you have this out, you probably have better choices for targets than lands, anyway.
Note also that your opponent will have a window of opportunity to use abilities, during your turn before you attack. So it's not a complete lockdown, though it will prevent sorcery-speed effects and combat tricks.
Lundaling
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This card won me a 3 player game in great style. Because of I drew it early its high mana cost, I could wait until I had enough mana to equip it when I cast it, making it even more ominous. But I've struggled to use it in 2 player games without it being destroyed when it's cast.
Cal87
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
As an added cost to Archon of the Triumvirate, play the Judge Dredd Short Theme whenever it enters the battlefield.
whitecow
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
this could have been 4WU and noone would say its overpovered :( sadface still a pretty decent card but the price is a little too much for my azorius deck and doesnt play along the curve
Goatllama
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
My problem with this card is that it looks so dark and evil – I was seriously expecting this to be a Dimir card or something! Such a creepy steed. If it had been a lammasu, well, that would've been hilarious looking.
Dragonshoredreamz
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I've got this guy and Archon of Redemption in my Bant deck. Definitely worthwhile and sooo satisfying when put to use haha
Truly a great card.
Beyond.Malachi
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
What? Why not a 4/6 or 5/5? It's not that powerful.
TexasDice
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
"Our jimmies are eternal. None can rustle the triumvirate."
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This looks set to be highly annoying in limited. Probably of lesser threat to Selesnya token swarms, but will still fly over a lot of things.
That beeing said: this archon ain't that bad either. It's obviously a bomb in limited, and somewhat playable in Commander. In standard... I think it's a bit too expensive. I'll give it a 3.5.
Although I tend to agree that it costing 7 is too much, the detain ability is new and seems quite strong, so if this card would've only costed 6, maybe it would've been a problem. It's quite hard to tell.
4/5 for me
Give this guy haste and have a party.
In limited, if you untap with this it is almost a game over... it's resistant to almost all of the commom-uncommon removals.
HOLY! A 4/5 flyer for 7 is already good in limited, NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT Trestle Troll won't be able to block now!
I'd play it at 5 mana, maybe six, but they might as well have costed this at 9 or 10. It's like a throwback to Blazing Archon except it sucks in reanimator.
In a control deck, 7 mana for his double detain ability is not too much at all. This guy see's play almost every game I draw him in.
Id Rather Attack Then Be Detained Every Turn And Sit There Doing Nothing
But seriously the real clause to note is its any permanent- Your opponents lands, his creatures, his Birthing Pod, his Mindslaver... and in EDH, hes not locked down till end of turn, but has to wait all the way until YOU have your turn.
On a flavor note, i wonder what that Triumvirate is, perhaps it is an organization within the Azorius of bureaucratic importance which will be detailed later on, or even receive the honor of its own card- One can hope.
A welcomed and amazing addition to the might of the Azorius.
4.5/5
Note also that your opponent will have a window of opportunity to use abilities, during your turn before you attack. So it's not a complete lockdown, though it will prevent sorcery-speed effects and combat tricks.
still a pretty decent card but the price is a little too much for my azorius deck and doesnt play along the curve
Truly a great card.