Effectively turns your slivers into Hellriders for a slightly higher cost, but you can hit creatures with the triggered ability. I think that's a fair tradeoff.
Feralsymphony
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(4 votes)
Still don't like the new sliver appearance. :/
Sonserf369
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Hellrider is rolling in its grave. More splashable, targets creatures, and falls right on the curve after Bonescythe Scyther. Naya Slivers is just waiting to raid Standard.
PorygonPowah
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
This was the Sliver that kind of helped me connect the new ones to the older Slivers. Older Slivers were pretty much squiggly lines, and we liked that. However, the new ones do still look like squiggly lines, it's just that now they're composed of a bunch of lines, not just a single line. You can see the resemblance to the older ones if you look for it. I just wish they still had the nose...
I'm just wondering if 5 is too much for this to see competitive play. I'm not worried about 3 color slivers being a thing, what with manaweft slivers and still having cavern of souls until october, but I'm wondering if he's too high on the curve.
seems to be the obvious includes, then maybe sentiinel sliver? really wondering what non-sliver creatures fit in here, and whether or not the deck can support mutavault given all of the dual lands and manaweft and cavern of souls.
Beyond slivers we'd definitely see some naya staples llike boros/selesyna charm (maybe 1-2 unflinching courage in the board for the aggro mirror)
what else though? the color hate cycle? voice? Flinthoof Boar, as long as it's around?
majinara
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(2 votes)
Well, this thing definately likes Sliver Queen. Well, all Slivers like Sliver Queen, but this one even more.
Just a shame that it's a 2/2 for five. Otherwise, it would be a bit too good though, I guess. 3/5
SAUS3
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@CogMonocle What about the haste sliver? He is not as nicely costed, but 3 is a slot you did not hit with your list. Haste will make this guy strong, and keep in mind that you don't actually need to have this guy attack to get the effect. You play it after you've played slivers on turn 1, 2, 3, and 4, and then swing - you burn away blockers that threaten your slivers, and shoot the rest at the opponent's face. This will crush blockers.
Rushdown
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
lVault of The Archange and this guy will be awesome friends in 5-color Sliver EDH.
Edward_Mass
★☆☆☆☆ (1.2/5.0)(2 votes)
R&D at once wanted and didn't want a new Sliver-specific Hellrider effect. In the end, they've printed what amounts to unplayable trash because they couldn't decide how to balance him properly. (Protip: Costing him outside the playable range, nerfing his P/T and making him Rare make him bad, not "fair".)
On the flipside, EDH Slivers have a new toy. I think that and Limited are about the only formats where he'll actually make a splash.
1.5 out of 5.
JRE47
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Why is this not rated higher? Yeah, 5CMC might be hair higher than we'd like, but if it only cost 4 there would be wailing and gnashing of teeth about power creep and overpowered cards and how REAL Magic was back in the days of Grizzly Bears.
Ahem, back on topic....
This is fine for the cost, especially if you have Blur Sliver around (which you really should if you're using this). SHould be AT LEAST a 3.5/5.
MostlyLost
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I call this guy Hellsliver. I think his effectiveness will depend on the deck. Like others have said, he's probably too high costed for fast aggro Sliver decks, but in a midrange deck he'd be an excellent curve topper.
Cygore
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I can't believe this is rated so low. This guy is excellent especially if given haste. Swing with a bunch of double striking slivers and let this guys ability clear the way of all the weenie blockers.
nickromancer
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(3 votes)
I'm really disappointed with the new design for Slivers. The old look was iconic and different. It was one of those creatures that you connected to MTG, but now they just look like generic videogame monsters with dangly bits.
tcollins
★☆☆☆☆ (1.3/5.0)(5 votes)
That's not a sliver.
Mirrordin_Pure
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Damn 5cmc, too bad there's not some, I dunno, Tribal Pseudo-BoP to ramp into it faster...
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just some random brainstorming:
striking sliver (maybe arbor elf instead as a 1 drop?)
predatory sliver
manawesft sliver
bonescythe sliver
thorncaster sliver
seems to be the obvious includes, then maybe sentiinel sliver? really wondering what non-sliver creatures fit in here, and whether or not the deck can support mutavault given all of the dual lands and manaweft and cavern of souls.
Beyond slivers we'd definitely see some naya staples llike boros/selesyna charm (maybe 1-2 unflinching courage in the board for the aggro mirror)
what else though? the color hate cycle? voice? Flinthoof Boar, as long as it's around?
Just a shame that it's a 2/2 for five. Otherwise, it would be a bit too good though, I guess. 3/5
What about the haste sliver? He is not as nicely costed, but 3 is a slot you did not hit with your list. Haste will make this guy strong, and keep in mind that you don't actually need to have this guy attack to get the effect. You play it after you've played slivers on turn 1, 2, 3, and 4, and then swing - you burn away blockers that threaten your slivers, and shoot the rest at the opponent's face. This will crush blockers.
On the flipside, EDH Slivers have a new toy. I think that and Limited are about the only formats where he'll actually make a splash.
1.5 out of 5.
Ahem, back on topic....
This is fine for the cost, especially if you have Blur Sliver around (which you really should if you're using this). SHould be AT LEAST a 3.5/5.
I think his effectiveness will depend on the deck. Like others have said, he's probably too high costed for fast aggro Sliver decks, but in a midrange deck he'd be an excellent curve topper.
Cough Manaweft Sliver cough
...sigh