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Fiend of the Shadows

Multiverse ID: 262837

Fiend of the Shadows

Comments (25)

pedrodyl
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (4 votes)
I mean it's basically a decent Specter, but some of the time you will get an extra card out of it.
(you still have to pay its mana cost and your opponent will probably not want to give you free cards.)
igniteice
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (2 votes)
This is clearly no Ghastlord of Fugue replacement, but it is far more splashable and it's a vampire wizard, so there's that...
Tsuichoi
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Cards that steel things right out of your oponents hand (Muse Vessel, Sen Triplets) will never get tiresome.
BluthBanana
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
I could play this in limited for sure. I probably won't put it into my R/B block constructed Vampire deck. But I wouldn't overlook taking it in a draft. Cool artwork for sure though.
majinara
★☆☆☆☆ (1.8/5.0) (4 votes)
Commander Review: I guess the regeneration won't be available most of the time, so we can think of it as a bonus that will rarely matter. Else... it's average. A 3/3 flyer for five mana is bad. If your opponent has no cards on hand, or has a blocker, this guy does nothing. If your opponent has cards on hand that are of a color you don't have access to, it's a bad specter. It's only interesting if you have access to the same colors as the opponents you attack, and if you can make sure it connects. But the more colors you have access to, the larger is the cardpool you can choose from when you build your deck, and the better the cards have to be to warrant a card slot. Or in other words: the better this card, the higher it's competition, the less likely it will be included.
2.5/5
RAV0004
★★☆☆☆ (2.2/5.0) (6 votes)
Too expensive for vampire decks.
Too expensive for discard decks. (it doesn't even discard!)
Irrelevant human sacrifice ability. (compare to ravenous demon or falkenrath arisocrat)

limited Garbage. Worse than Ravenous Demon in every single shape and form.

(edit) In Response to Splitzer:
1) Artifact. Yes, I can see how that would be useful. The problem with your argument is that here you're saying that this single creature is better than Ravenous Demon (and I am talking about Ravenous Demon, not Bloodgift Demon, although I think you just mislinked since you seem to know the demon I'm talking about) against a single kind of deck. Regardless of artifact/tempered steel's proliferation in standard at the moment, that still makes this card nearly worse than the demon in a large majority of it's matchups. You are also forgetting that your opponent chooses what card to exile, and that it's entirely possible that they would choose to exile a card you are physically incapable of casting.

2) Neither does Fiend of Shadows. It allows you to play lands your opponent chooses to exile, which, as I stated before, is pretty unlikely considering that would allow you to play them.

3)I do not play Standard, so I would be incapable of making a statement in that regard. I play a casual mono-black that I scrabbled together from packs. In this deck, there are only two kinds of vampires I want to run. Lords (like captivating vampire, bloodline keeper, or nocturnus, regretfully of which I own only a single of each) or super cheap ones that turn either of those three into huge board threats as soon as they land. Fiend of Shadows not only does neither of those things, it actively ruins both of them by requesting I play humans, cards which neither benefit the lords nor benefit from the lords.

4) Forgive me for Using Falkenrath Aristocrat (as a mythic) for a comparison to a rare. My intent in the comparison was to highlight the fact that it could sacrifce any creature, not that indestructibility is better than regeneration (which is not a point I was making, if you consider the two best removal spells in standard to be tragic slip and dismember)

5)Yes, you would be doing black wrong if this troubled you..
blindthrall
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Whatever you guys may think, but I've a Grixis ramp deck that runs Sheoldred's Graspthat can produce all five colors and even has a few utility cheap humans. And it needs a good five-drop. It's like Wizards printed this girl just for me.
C5r1a5z0y
★★☆☆☆ (2.9/5.0) (4 votes)
Should be a 4/4 or have haste - it's not worth the cost as it is.
Psion
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Was the star of the show in my draft games this even.

Constructed, would make a good sideboard in a vamp deck against decks of your own colors.
PastProphet
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The first time I connected with this, my opponent decided to give me a land...

one fun thought - add this to a deck that has a lot of bounce effects, maybe combined with discard to keep their hand small.
if they have no cards in hand, then you Silent Departure their best creature and swing... unlikely to pull it off, but it seems fun.
jonci
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
So if you play a card that was exiled by Fiend of the Shadows, does the card return to being exiled once it leaves the battlefield (either from being destroyed or being an instant/sorcery)? Or does it go to the owner's graveyard?
VirusVescichetta
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Goes nicely in a B/W human sacrifice deck. Spam tokens and keep swinging whenever they're open, and whenever they aren't you have a blocker you can regenerate.
Splizer
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
@RAV004:I do not agree Bloodgift Demon is not better than this in every shape or form.

1) Its nastier against artifact decks than the Demon is, where you can play colourless stuff from their hands.
2) Bloodgift Demon does not allow you to steal opponents lands.
3) It is a vampire. Yes, an expensive one by competitive standards, but it has good tribal support compared to demons nowadays.
4) If you appreciate Falkenrath Aristocrat's ability to save herself. This is a weaker ability sure, but not at mythic level. And hell, pair this lass with deathtouch and give your opponent a difficult blocking phase to consider.
5) Fiend Of The Shadows cannot (on its own) kill you in any way. Although if you let that happen with the Demon to yourself in black, you're doing it wrong! :D

Yeah, my points are rather narrow I guess, but what I wish to say is that I disagree with your summary.

EDIT TO RESPONSE: Fair enough, I also apologize for not responding properly (I did think you were talking about Bloodgift rather than Ravenous Demon). I understand how many people would prefer the Ravenous Demon over the Fiend, but for its cost I can appreciate this card. Your points are fair, though, I just dislike considering this card "garbage" for a certain format as a final summary.
adny22
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
If you have to pay the mana cost, isn't this only useful against colours you have?

ps. Im a magic noob.
Dozell
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (2 votes)
For those people who are complaining about this card only being useful in games against the same color I ask this. You do realize that land can be exiled right?...That said in a discard deck its just a matter of forcing them down to one card then attacking, I'm sure a land will eventually show up. that said, overall this card isn't meant to be a powerhouse card, more of a filler in a control U/B deck.
Mode
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Not that powerful.
But it could be interesting for a discard/bounce casual deck, since this will allow you to play the permanents you return to your opponent's hand, particularly lands.
Play with Reflecting Pool and put even more stuff on your side.
At least if you manage to get through with this fair lady, which gets easier when you can bounce potential blockers.
alphagprime
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Alloy Myr and Manalith are still Standard legal. I understand that it may not be the best thing to include in a deck but if you can get even one Ally Myr on the deck you could probably play anything your opponent would throw out (assuming it isn't like 3RR or something). Besides what makes you think your opponent would exile something they want to play or something that would be advantageous for you to play. They would either have to have no other option or have better stuff to keep (and if that's the case you may want to be scared). Not to mention what they put out probably won't synergize with your deck.

Really this is more of a replacement for Hypnotic Specter rebuilt for a block where forcing your opponent to discard can quite often be bad for YOU but tuned up with a special ability to make it worth being rare so that they don't flood the game with critters that can rip apart zombie and flashback decks. Design wise, its easy to see why they did it. Play wise, its not as easy to fit it in.
dontmess17
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Sphere of the Suns to get their color and ramp up to the fiend.
Praetor's Grasp to steal a land of their color, see their deck, or to get a choice on what you steal.
MasterOfEtherium
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
im a fiend of that crippy blunt freebase coke rock and latina *** sex, i do all three at once............oh good art
Lash_of_Dragonbreath
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Oh, I see MoE has returned.
And the card is decent, by the way. Not much better than a glorified Specter, it's great that you can play the card even after Fiend leaves the battlefield.
MtG_Perv
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I bet she'd trip over that sexxy gown if it weren't for the whole flying thing.
Aremath
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Not as good as Nightveil Specter. While this card gives them the dilemma of whether or not to give you a land, the specter comes out WAY earlier, and while it doesn't have the conditional regeneration clause, makes it likelier to actually hit something useful, assuming you're in the same colors, or a land, to help you be in the same colors for future 'draws'. I am a fan of the 'I play your deck' archetype, so I like drawing from both decks every turn, but this seems a little overcosted.