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Valeron Outlander

Multiverse ID: 185144

Valeron Outlander

Comments (16)

KnightOfSerra
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (3 votes)
I always like somthing that has protection from black. The flavor text seems odd though. What exactly would bant be converting other to? They don't really seem to have any organised religion.
SavageBrain89
★☆☆☆☆ (1.8/5.0) (9 votes)
Wait, why is a citizen of Bant venturing out into other worlds of Alara to debate philosophy? It sounds interesting but ignores a certain logic here; every other creature is going to kill this woman before she has a chance to debate her philosophy. The citizens of Esper already have concrete established views on life and the behemoths on Naya will just eat or step on her. Guess all those years debating her beliefs was for nothing, wasn't it?
Dingo777
★★★☆☆ (4.0/5.0) (11 votes)
Wow, you 2 completely miss the flavor. Bant does have a very organized religion, just because it may have more then 1 god, does not make it a chaotic religion. The angels/gods set down the laws of the land, hence the ritualistic combat/dueling found in bant, shown through the exhaulted keyword.

"The citizens of Esper already have concrete established views on life and the behemoths on Naya will just eat or step on her."

She does not have to worry about behemoths, she is going where there is black mana, no black in naya. You can see in the background, grixis, where she would be untouchable basicly. Also, anywhere there is black or red mana, there is chaos and death, you think those who have to live in chaos and death dont want order? and no matter where you live, what mana you have, there are those who wish for something else, you think the tidehallow scullars like their life?

bascly the cycle is good, 2/2 for 2 with common enemy protection is awesome
VirtueVsVice
★★★★☆ (4.4/5.0) (7 votes)
As a philosophy major I really enjoy this flavor text. WOTC has always done a great job of providing interesting text to it's cards.

P.S. love the discussion/debate btw =)
Gezus82
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (4 votes)
this card is amazing with chorus of the conclave, you can make it bigger than burn and with pro black its an invincible beater
Selez
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (4 votes)
It's the invasion cycle all over again
A3Kitsune
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (4 votes)
This and the Goblin Outlander are the weakest of the Outlander cycle, simply because each shares a color with a better 2-mana protection creature.
Kryptnyt
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Its possible she was able to spread her word to the Vithians of Grixis.
Vithian Renegades
Zoah
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0) (3 votes)
I'm now stuck with the most interesting picture of her debating religion and philosophy with a Prince of Thralls and not come back squished flat... It's quite hilarious... A bit odd, and far fetched for flavor... But I guess it works.
vsasntore
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (2 votes)
I really like this card; I run it in my pauper deck. Protection from terror, boom blade and go for the throat are beautiful things
monkeymonk42
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
Strictly worse than White Knight
NoobOfLore
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The flavor is a bit nonsensical, but humorous.
Totema
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Hey, remember Llanowar Knight? Turns out she was actually a pale philosopher.
Equinox523
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
For the benefit of people who wander here in the future, long after Conflux is forgotten:

This card was part of a cycle of gold common creatures, all of which had protection from their shared enemy color:

Goblin Outlander - BlackRed (Jund Goblin Scout, traveled to RedGreenWhite Naya)
Nacatl Outlander - RedGreen (Naya Cat Scout, traveled to GreenWhiteBlue Bant)
Valeron Outlander - GreenWhite (Bant Human Scout, traveled to WhiteBlueBlack Esper)
Vedalken Outlander - WhiteBlue (Esper Vedalken Scout, traveled to BlueBlackRed Grixis)*
Zombie Outlander - BlueBlack (Zombie Scout, traveled to BlackRedGreen Jund)

*This one is unique as it is an artifact creature.

I am basing this off of the background, the location, and flavor text of each - the sculpted ethereum filigree seems to indicate she isn't on Grixis. Note that they always have protection from one of the secondary colors of their destination shard.
Augustin_V
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
For clarity's sake, she is in Esper, not Grixis. She's encountering black mana for the first time, but she isn't on the black-aligned shard. Similarly, all the other outlanders are on shards bordering their native shards.