especially useful in a tribal deck with many creatures with cip effects. :)
Supernovae
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0)(4 votes)
crippling against a tribal deck with cip effects :p
UNBAN_SHAHRAZAD
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Wow, why does Bidding have such alow rating? It was the cornerstone of many decks during Onslaught block and now that there is such a focus on tribal, this card should be much better than it was then.
applecorn
★☆☆☆☆ (1.2/5.0)(2 votes)
Tribals aren't creatures; this wouldn't search for them.
ArKive
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
its pretty good in EDH too. Usually people dont focus on a creature type in EDH, but with a Reaper King General you can really hit someone hard with vindicates bringing back all your scarecrows and changelings.
erazkillyou
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Darkheart Sliver!!!!!
Marlo12345
★★☆☆☆ (2.2/5.0)(4 votes)
atm my favorate move with this is use it in my zombie deck with Noxious Ghoul.
i get 2 bring a bunch of zombies out and all non-zombies get -1/-1 4 each zombie, which can b as high as -10/-10 maybe more.
I call it "Wrath of Zombie God"
Entropic_Acolyte
★☆☆☆☆ (1.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Someday, someone will make a successful Eldrazi deck that abuses you...
izzet_guild_mage
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(2 votes)
Best tribes for this: Goblins and Slivers. The reason? Goblin Warchief and Heart Sliver (or Firewake or Reflex Sliver, whichever you fancy). Your dudes have haste, and the game ends in short order :)
Vedalken_Arbiter
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Brutal in an ally deck.
RuthieA
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@applecorn: While tribal, the mechanic, is used only on non-creature cards, the "tribal" being referenced here is simply a deck strategy that uses creatures of all the same type (for example an elf deck, a soldier deck, or perhaps more in color a zombie deck). It can be confusing to keep up with all of the jargon :).
Anyway, this card is rather useful in a tribal deck, with the downside that it's rather dangerous to play against a tribal deck (although depending on what your deck has, deck that might not matter). As a nice bonus, it's the same CMC as Rise from the Grave and the exact same mana cost as Beacon of Unrest. All in all, it's incredibly powerful in the right deck, but sufficiently less useful in the wrong one. A very good Johnny card.
yargamafrag
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I once played this with i golbin deck i was using. I was playing my friend's zombie deck. Oops XD Noxious ghoul made sure i lost.
Kryptnyt
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(5 votes)
Clearly needs to be used with Cephalids like in the art! Octo people ftw.
HuntedWumpusMustDie
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Flavour text gives me chills...
Superfrasse
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I would call Relentless Rats, makes lot's of fun as a counter of the oponents wrath of god or something. :P
sarroth
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The wording makes it sound like you don't have to return cards of the creature type you chose: "Each player returns all creature cards of a type chosen this way," where a type sounds like if you're running a Demon deck and I'm running my Kaalia build and I choose Angels, then find out I have better Demons available in my graveyard, I could switch to what you said.
I'm not sure that is the intention of the wording for the card. It seems like you're supposed to only return the creature type you chose, not just a chosen type.
Gabriel422
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(2 votes)
"Counter target Wrath of God. Your Goblins beat face for some hasty damage, then activate Goblin Sharpshooter a few times so they don't live to untap."
By the way, this kills any player with Phage in their graveyard dead.
DarthParallax
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
You wanna build a combo deck worthy of Season 2 of Yu-Gi-Oh! in Magic the Gathering?
I was looking up dragons for my Kaalia build, and...well, just look at the comments on Worldgorger Dragon. Apparently, when you go get 4 Worldgorger Dragons out with Patriarch's Bidding....you blow the world up. oh GAWDS you blow the world up. A LOT. actually, you blow the world up infinite times, then you play Comet Storm and everybody's dead. (you HAVE been tapping your mana the whole time, right?) Anyway, Worldgorger Dragon reminds me a bit of Slifer the Sky Dragon. just visually. And they both seem to like triggered abilities alot.
Ugh, terrible memories of this card. I was playing Jund, and curved turn 3 Blightning into turn 4 Bloodbraid into something tiny. He discarded 2 Malakir Bloodwitches and did this 2 turns later, draining me for 4 life and making two flying 4/4s. Needless to say I was humped.
Lobster-Overlord
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Is this card played that you only get the creatures of the type you choose, or do you get those that are in your graveyard of the types your opponents chose as well? We've always played it that you get ALL creatures of the types, but I have a reliable friend telling me that you only get the ones of your type.
Tynansdtm
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The text of this card makes this pretty clear. Each player chooses a creature type. Then each player returns all creature cards of a type chosen this way from the graveyard to the battlefield. So if I choose Eldrazi and you choose Elf, I still return my Llanowar Elves to the battlefield, because Elf is "a type chosen this way". @sarroth: You would return all the Angels AND Demons to the battlefield. Demon is a type chosen this way. Angel is a type chosen this way.
Scion should be fetching plenty of dragons and throwing them in the graveyard. Heck, if you've got this in your hand and plenty of mana open, you can just fetch a bunch of dragons all at once, then cast this, and suddenly, your field is full of draconic death from above. Do you care that your opponents get a few dudes from their graves as well? Probably not. Maybe if someone is running Slivers, but otherwise, you get the best deal out of this one.
On closer inspection, this card's wording makes something odd happen. It says that each player returns all creature cards of "A type chosen this way", rather than just the type that player chose. Thus, if I pick Dragons, the next guy picks Humans, the next guy picks Elves, and the last guy picks Zombies, all four of us bring back anything that's a Dragon, a Human, an Elf, or a Zombie.
Scion's ruling says that he loses his copy ability when he uses it, but this doesn't stop the above strategy from working; just put the activated ability on the stack multiple times all at the same time, then resolve them all.
Combofriend
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Goblin bidding ftw! 4/5
Khardiss
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I don't think this card lets you return all creatures of all types chosen by all players like Doghealer and Tynansdtm seem to be indicating. The card says each player returns all creature cards of "a type" (singular) chosen this way, not all creature cards of "all types" (plural) chosen this way. While this would leave the door open for you to return creatures of a type different than what you chose, it wouldn't let you return the all of the creature types you chose AND your opponent chose. (In other words, say you choose Dragons and your opponent chooses Elves. You start looking thru your graveyard and realize you have more elves in there than dragons. The wording on the card would let you return the elves instead of the dragons even though you didn't actually chose elves. But since the card only lets you return a single type of creature, you can't return both elves and dragons.)
This, of course, is my interpretation and I am no expert. I'd love to read other opinions on this, maybe even get the Oracle text more clear on this.
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This the turn after a traumatize. Should be instant win if played right with something to give all creatures haste.
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Usually people dont focus on a creature type in EDH, but with a Reaper King General you can really hit someone hard with vindicates bringing back all your scarecrows and changelings.
i get 2 bring a bunch of zombies out and all non-zombies get -1/-1 4 each zombie, which can b as high as -10/-10 maybe more.
I call it "Wrath of Zombie God"
Anyway, this card is rather useful in a tribal deck, with the downside that it's rather dangerous to play against a tribal deck (although depending on what your deck has, deck that might not matter). As a nice bonus, it's the same CMC as Rise from the Grave and the exact same mana cost as Beacon of Unrest. All in all, it's incredibly powerful in the right deck, but sufficiently less useful in the wrong one. A very good Johnny card.
Noxious ghoul made sure i lost.
I'm not sure that is the intention of the wording for the card. It seems like you're supposed to only return the creature type you chose, not just a chosen type.
By the way, this kills any player with Phage in their graveyard dead.
I was looking up dragons for my Kaalia build, and...well, just look at the comments on Worldgorger Dragon. Apparently, when you go get 4 Worldgorger Dragons out with Patriarch's Bidding....you blow the world up. oh GAWDS you blow the world up. A LOT. actually, you blow the world up infinite times, then you play Comet Storm and everybody's dead. (you HAVE been tapping your mana the whole time, right?) Anyway, Worldgorger Dragon reminds me a bit of Slifer the Sky Dragon. just visually. And they both seem to like triggered abilities alot.
@sarroth: You would return all the Angels AND Demons to the battlefield. Demon is a type chosen this way. Angel is a type chosen this way.
Scion should be fetching plenty of dragons and throwing them in the graveyard. Heck, if you've got this in your hand and plenty of mana open, you can just fetch a bunch of dragons all at once, then cast this, and suddenly, your field is full of draconic death from above. Do you care that your opponents get a few dudes from their graves as well? Probably not. Maybe if someone is running Slivers, but otherwise, you get the best deal out of this one.
On closer inspection, this card's wording makes something odd happen. It says that each player returns all creature cards of "A type chosen this way", rather than just the type that player chose. Thus, if I pick Dragons, the next guy picks Humans, the next guy picks Elves, and the last guy picks Zombies, all four of us bring back anything that's a Dragon, a Human, an Elf, or a Zombie.
Scion's ruling says that he loses his copy ability when he uses it, but this doesn't stop the above strategy from working; just put the activated ability on the stack multiple times all at the same time, then resolve them all.
This, of course, is my interpretation and I am no expert. I'd love to read other opinions on this, maybe even get the Oracle text more clear on this.