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Four of these are an absolute must for any self-respecting Eldrazi deck. (Especially any that want to drop a T4 All Is Dust...)

Even given the circumstances of limited play, this could've/should've been an uncommon.

I don't care that it's necessary for Eldrazi...WHY ARE YOU NOT UNCOMMON. >:V

They should have made four different lands that add eight instead if you have all four out. Like the urza's lands sort of. This just seems too powerful to me. Maybe it isn't though, it's hard to get 'em all out at once anyways. . . I guess. We'll see!

how is this supposed to be an uncommon? think about it for a second!

It's gonna be ridiculous in constructed eldrazi and in limited there's enough common/uncommon eldrazi that if you get this it will pay off big time.

Eldrazi Tron...hmm...I know what's getting tectonic edged now...

It balances out when you think of how much nonbasic LD there is out there. Just make sure you sideboard the LD for when you do meet an Eldrazi deck. I know I will with my Elf deck. :x

Okay, for those of you who are requesting for this to be made uncommon, get your heads out of the gutter and realize that this card is insanely powerful with Eldrazi and most definitely should not be any easier to obtain.

Funny how one painter's servant can shut down this card.. it specifically says "colorless" eldrazi.. you give them any kind of color and it makes 1 only. I give this 4/5 for being best acidic slime target ever.

Hold on, is (almost) evry1 saying that this should be uncommon?! If this was uncommon, than it would be easier to obtain and thus making almost any and all eldrazi decks hard as all h ell to beat! I mean, you get 4 out on the field and boom, you get out things like Eldrazi Con s c r i p t ion , and Ulmog's Crusher. So you can put out Ulmog's Crusher on turn 4 and on turn 5 Eldrazi Con s c r i p t ion onto Ulmog, now you have a friggin 18/18 with annihilator 2 and trample. that is just way too powerful to be just an uncommon...plus you will be bringing out more land so then you can get things like It That Betrays. 1 thing is for certain, ALL Eldrazi decks need Elvish Piper uuugh...sooooo gooooood!! Also, why wont it let me type in Con***ion? See

I play this with Garruk. Two Temples with his +1 ability = 8 mana off the bat. This deserves the rare status.

"Okay, for those of you who are requesting for this to be made uncommon, get your heads out of the gutter and realize that this card is insanely powerful with Eldrazi and most definitely should not be any easier to obtain. "

There is no such thing as a hard to obtain magic card in standard. Walk into a store like Pats Games, say " I need 4 jace's, or I need 4 Baneslayer angles" and boom, there you go. Making this card an uncommon would only level the playing field when talking about eldrazi, which should never have been in MTG in the first place.

i think it is an awesome card myself but i dont us eldrazi, but what i want to know myself incase i ever want to try some of them out, the colorless mana can it be usd for any mana type i.e. forest or swamp, etc. or do we just use it as a colorless and that is it, so it would be any collor of my choice to use it as?

@rillaan
Walking into "Pats Games" and paying a total of $460.00 for 8 pieces of cardboard does not sound easy to me. Then again - back when I did play magic - I only played casual. I understand why rarity is so important for drafts and similar games, but - as a casual gamer - it only affected my wallet. Sure, you could print cards out and play with proxies, but then you have to contend with individuals who "don't play with people who use proxies," people who take pride that they are the "legitimate" owner of some mythic card, and other elitist scum... even in casual.

Wizards could reprint every single card with an expansion symbol that signifies its use for casual play only (and the fact that the card is also only worth 25¢ each), but I'm sure someone who has their mitts on a Jace, the Mind Sculptor or a Tarmogoyf might have a problem with that (or some other self-centered reason that is unrelated to a anything concerning a fun game). Until then, it's simply Money the Gathering.

I digress. As for the card, the art is very eerie which goes well with the Eldrazi theme. However, there's nothing to give a sense of proportion... Are we looking at a simple hallway? Or is this a monstrous corridor that dwarfs even Emrakul? Very obvious sense of depth, though, which is amazing.

The actual mechanic is pretty straight forward. It can be used in any deck as a colorless land, but it obviously excels in an Eldrazi deck, offering two lands for the price of one. You'll need four of these and at least two Eye of Ugin in any respectable Eldrazi deck.

@Rendall23
Nobody knows what the hell you are talking about

If this said "Treefolk" or "Kraken" would people be as excited? It's a narrow card, good for eldrazi, bad for the other 99% of Magic decks. Invest in Temple of the False God instead.

@ArtsyWumpus: Thank you, Captain Obvious.

There's also Ancient Tomb, by the way.

Eldrazi Sol Ring?

I'm going to run this in my Myr deck with Artificial Evolution. Take that, "spend this mana only on colorless spells/abilities" restriction!

P.S. @FelixCarter: I'm imagining those floating platforms to be about 100ft x 100ft in size.

@FelixCarter
They did almost exactly that on MTGO. The Planeswalker format (DPA) gives you roughly 200 cards per expansion with each expansion costing $5. You can only use these card in the DPA format, but they have many of the latest 'money' rares as well as a few of the most well known older ones. You can even look up a card list on each one so you have an idea of what you are getting. So far, games seem to be pretty fun as each player is more or less on a level playing field with card pools.

I gotta side with FelixCarter, as a hardcore Casual/EDH player, I absolutely HATE having to toss even $3 on a single card, just because people in some format or another went crazy-gaga over it. But to be honest, most of the local card shops I can get to don't even carry 4 Jaces, I've found a lot of cards to be sold out (a good few just being dollar-rares the store never really wanted to buy). My close friend went to at least 4 different card-shops only to find Momir Vig sold out in each of them.


To be honest though, the real reason I'm here to complain about how crappy this card really is - at least to me. I saw my friend use it in a deck, and he took it out, so I figured I'd give it a spin - after all, I really like the 0/1 mana-babies, so why not give them a try? So, imagine the look on my face when I saw the word COLORLESS. Really guys, you gotta play a man like that? The drones already suffer from being only in three colors, lacking any real abilities besides pooping babies, and lacking annihilator(thank Emeria). Now, you're really going to tell me that these guys are SO unloved by their own grandparents that the ELDRAZI TEMPLE itself can't even help pay for them at large? I really can't get that extra ONE colorless mana to drop my Rapacious One? Really?

What's with all the colored Eldrazi hate, magic?

You are all full of dumb. :p

It's rare because limited would suck if Sol Ring was uncommon. Even with the colorless restriction, there were those two Eldrazi at common that were good.

It's also, in Constructed, actually a junk rare because you can't make an All-Colorless deck, unless you are doing so on the backs of Posts. In which case you still don't need this.

Vorthos loves it, Spike doesn't cuz he's got even better (like Elves). Makes casual Timmies happy. Johnny would rather abuse Eye of Ugin because that card is more interesting, regardless of whether this one is stronger or not.

It's not a bad card, it belongs exactly at Rare, and its real power level is a good bit weaker in 'the real world' than in limited.

Rillaan, Jace the Mind Sculptor is STILL hard to obtain. And he's BANNED IN EVERTYTHING. Epic fail attempting to tell people getting Jace was easy. Though, I actually do believe that Pats Games had cheap Baneslayers, even when they were a little hotter. Baneslayer simply isn't nearly the same at all as Jace.

Right on felix! There is duels of the planeswalkers and Magic the Gathering Online, DPA format which is tailored for casual players.

I like playing MTGO Standard, because the "junk pile" of cards, which contains rares, will sell as low as 5 cents a card.

If only it worked with changelings...

While not a horrible card there are so many other ways to get mana quickly that it's not worth using, better off with Tron or Elves or just skipping all of that and cheating your Eldrazi into play, 3/5...

Mycosynth Lattice and changelings.

Eh, it's kind of boring for a rare, that's the thing. Maybe if it was 3 Elcolourless mana? Would've cost much more money I suppose...

Maybe 'Tap, sacrifice an Eldrazi: put an Eldrazi Spawn into play'? Would've been strange but definitely useful for combat tricks.

@Felix
I think people who consider proxies good forget:
-This is a *Collectible* card game. If something has become collectible already it's difficult to justify a slew of reprints to lower the price, as it deflates the market; making it much less interesting to collect
-Qasali Pridemage is a common rated at 4.6 and Tarmogoyf is a Rare/Mythic rated at 4.4ish. You're not allowed to bitch about expensive cards that are good and then silently forget about $0.25 cards that is basically just as good. The difference is supply (common vs. rare) and demand (one fits in G/W or three color, the other fits into literally any deck willing to splash green.)

We can point out things like Delver of Secrets, Lightning Bolt, or a variety of other cheap cards that are tournament staples. The staples become expensive when they're shared amongst a huge variety of decks; meaning that the resource is much more scarce.


People who play competitively in a collector's game are, to a degree, like old drag racing. If everyone's on the same playing field it's actually *less* interesting IMO, because it discourages creativity. When I win using a lot of what's considered jank (like a recent tourny game where my $80 deck 2-0'd a good $800+ deck) it makes me excited. It's fun to slowly build my collection while fighting powerhouse builds and learning the game on a competitive level.

Find like-minded folks who play with proxies if you must; but in the end people who make the derogatory "cardboard" argument are missing the fact that this is a game millions of people play. If a million people want a piece of cardboard as much as they want a $20 bill, then who are you to say that the card is worth less? They're both just special paper after all. Platinum is just cool looking metal, and diamonds are just really shiny pieces of rare charcoal. Do wives go around saying "I don't need a $2000 piece of charcoal". Most of the time, no. Why? Because it has resale value, people want it, etc..

Same with magic.

@FelixCarter

You are complaining about the art? I have it as a backround for my computer, and on the forth to last "step" there are two (assumed) human figures.

it's like eye of ugin, but different