This card will "win you games" if you pop it as a mill deck is about to beat you... and they then have to go through your whole library again...
Oleander
★☆☆☆☆ (1.2/5.0)(7 votes)
This card annoys me in comparison to it's other 1 drop uncommon quest counterparts. The black gives you a creature, the red acts as a Furnace of Rath for a turn, the white tutors for and puts into play an equipment, the green adds 4 +1/+1 counters; This one shuffles your graveyard into your library, a very mediocre, and blah effect that won't win you any games or make a big impact like the other ones. Very boring, severely underpowered.
Edit: @magicrocker: Specifically killing a mill deck. OOOOOH. How powerful. It can null an entire type of deck. Whereas a creature can be used for anything, as can doubling damage, as can tutoring equipment, as can beefing a creature. The other 4 colors have universal uses, while this one's only use would appear to be to prevent death from it's own color.
UltimaCenturion
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
I think the point of it was to use it with Archmage Ascension so you can draw those cards again. But really, its not that great.
VirtueVsVice
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(2 votes)
@Oleander:
The point is that it can be useful as SB if your deck has issues with mills. Sure it's a VERY unversatile card, but at the same time it definitely can have its uses.
redwinedrummer
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(4 votes)
Seeing how Standard is currently set-up, it's not surprising R&D put out an anti-mill card.
The Alara Block introduced Mind Funeral, Memory Erosion, Lich Lord of Unx, Nemesis of Reason, Extractor Demon and Font of Mythos. Then the M10 core set supported with Twincast, Traumatize, Tome Scour, Jace Beleren and Howling Mine. Then Zendikar came out with Hedron Crab and Archive Trap.
All things considered, Standard is actually giving BUW/BU mill decks a chance. An anti-mill card is soon to happen. Of course people will argue that this card is "useless" compared to the other Quests, but they're completely overlooking the deckbuilding aspect of the game. And why do we have to assume that every Quest is as "powered" as the next? What is the basis of "power" in the first place?
There are fifteen more cards to set aside. Quest for Ancient Secrets deserves a spot on those.
Dingo777
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
ok, so this is anti mill decks, are we all agreed on that, well not me, not really
dont get me wrong, it is great for that, but this is also good in a mill deck, especially in multi player, often times, you will chew up the majority of your mill cards set on one opponent, and they will likely die from it
this resets your deck, for exactly the same reasons it is good anti mill, it is good mill assistance, especially if you have gotten the archmage going
deffinatly good multi player, as those will go later, and this can be used to recycle your bombs after they have been countered/destroyed/milled/used
unfoundedloss
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(3 votes)
I think you are all over looking the point of recycling draw cards, sack lands, and control cards. Or even better yet, a fog deck that doesn't run out of fog spells. With fetch lands and terramorphic expanse, you can even reuse land fall cards. As for those Johnny players gutsy enough to go for it you can use it with invincible hymn. It makes Right of Replication 100 times better then clone. I'm not saying that this card is awesome, but it can be made awesome with some creativity!!
UNBAN_SHAHRAZAD
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
I'd rather play Timetwister.
SolarXLunar
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
i dont see how this card is unversitile.it basically gives extra cast's to most of your spells right?
ClowWizardEriol
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
This card is bad as a topdeck late game, but early game it's useful enough. Besides stopping mill decks, if you have a deck that requires drawing tons of cards and you use them up quickly, this is a way to get them back into the library. It's not the strongest card out there, but it has its uses.
coyotemoon722
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
SIDEBOARD!!!
kittyspit
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0)(3 votes)
@oleander
you're stupid. have you ever thought about how stupid you are?
Demonic_Angel13
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(2 votes)
I use this in my mill deck to recycle my used mill cards, like Mind Funeral and maybe some dead Hedron Crabs. If you find your not getting counters fast enough, due to a lack of spells or such, just Tome Scour yourself.
IronShins
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Tired of being milled? Well now we have a one drop solution.
A3Kitsune
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I like all three blue quests. They all mesh with each other, and they also combo with the Enchantresses.
PaladinOfSunhome
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Great to stop players who set up their deck and cheap to. Also great for slowing them down before they have set up since it would be useless to otherwise.
3.0
quadratine
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Great sideboard card
Yes its great for if your opponent mills you but the great thing is that it says target player
meaning it can also be used for when your opponents playing from graveyard. You can sac when they target something in thier graveyard so it doesnt resolve, Stop them from unearthing creatures or gaining counters on things like Pyromancers Ascesion.
kanguilla
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
In my blue black control deck, I end up scouring my deck for the cards i need and discarding a lot with Merfolk Looters. It helps a lot to reset my deck once my graveyard gets big.
storophanthus
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
i hate mill.. so i bought 4 of this.. one mana enchantment, and make you less worry about out of spell, but watch out for leyline of void
Kryptnyt
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Why hasn't anyone mentioned that this is noticeably worse than Feldon's Cane?
Diachronos
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
I have a question about this card.
Say somebody activated QfAS. Would I be able to use effects that let me exile cards from a graveyard as a response, before their graveyard goes back into their library?
@Kryptnyt: The Cane might take much less time to set up, but this does have an advantage: The Cane is removed from the game to get the effect, so you only get to use it once. QfAS is sacrificed, which puts it into your graveyard before its effect goes off, meaning it goes back into your library along with everything else.
nimzo
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
if i'am the target, the enchantment is shuffled too?
vdrummer23
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
my question is would this card also get shuffled back into your library or will it just hit the graveyard after the shuffle
VampireCat
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
If you're using Mesmeric Orb or other mutual-mill cards in your mill deck, this can help keep you from decking yourself.
lorendorky
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This can stop a mill deck cold, but it can also FUEL your own mill deck by recycling counterspells and mill spells.
Not broken, but ... useful for insurance, for . It's not like anyone bothers with Leyline of the Void anymore. Heck, all I see nowadays are Relic of Progenitus and the occasional Scavenging Ooze (which is horribly awesome tech vs Dredge, by the way).
You might say "not as good at anti-hate as Pithing Needle" but consider: this doesn't require me to pre-guess which hate card to needle, I can crack it in response to enchantment destruction (which is rarer than artifact destruction like Ancient Grudge anyway), and I can use it versus Reanimator, Loam decks, or the Dredge mirror to hose the opponent by forcing a shuffle at the worst possible time.
Sweet. I'm off to update my sideboard.
Black_Mantha
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(1 vote)
I'm currently using it in an EDH deck based around Enduring Ideal. I plan to use it to reshuffle my deck if my combo's or some important cards are lost. Don't know if it'll work yet, I might not get the chance to charge it up.
Disruptor
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
innistrad update everybody
Lord_Sauron
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
This huge strength of this card is in its flexibility. I don't understand why is everybody is calling it a side deck or anti-milling card.
You can mess up any opponent's game if he/she is using a deck running on its graveyard. 5 Counters on the Quest is all it takes. Or, if you are playing a deck running on its graveyard yourself, this card is perfect to protect it from being removed from the game. And since the Quest is put back into the library every time, you can even go for a long defensive game, waiting until your opponent mills him/herself. And of course you could use it in combination with a card like Psychic Vortex. No chance you will mill yourself while drawing cards like a maniac.
This card is much more awesome that everybody seems to think.
omni8000
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
wouldnt feldon's cane be better since it can be put in any colored deck? the only upside this would have is that enchantments are a bit harder to get rid of and you can target any player with it. I guess you could sorta hose dredge with this too, if you hate tormod's crypt or save another player you like from being milled. But it does take alot longer to use than the cane, so if you didnt get it early on you could still hypothetically be milled to death, whereas the cane likely wont let that happen to you.
Errr... Really, your opinion varies somewhat depending on whether the card shuffles itself, but... Tell me if I'm wrong, but costs activate before the payout, and the cost sacrifices the card, so the reshuffle includes includes this card. So Jace, the Mind Sculptor gets a one finger salute as long as this card is primed.
Discoduck
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I like it in EDH with mana ramp (Kruphix, God of Horizons anyone?) with Genesis Wave. Put your deck onto the table, use this to shuffle your graveyard (plus whatever instants and sorceries you just milled) back into your deck.
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Edit: @magicrocker: Specifically killing a mill deck. OOOOOH. How powerful. It can null an entire type of deck. Whereas a creature can be used for anything, as can doubling damage, as can tutoring equipment, as can beefing a creature. The other 4 colors have universal uses, while this one's only use would appear to be to prevent death from it's own color.
The point is that it can be useful as SB if your deck has issues with mills. Sure it's a VERY unversatile card, but at the same time it definitely can have its uses.
The Alara Block introduced Mind Funeral, Memory Erosion, Lich Lord of Unx, Nemesis of Reason, Extractor Demon and Font of Mythos. Then the M10 core set supported with Twincast, Traumatize, Tome Scour, Jace Beleren and Howling Mine. Then Zendikar came out with Hedron Crab and Archive Trap.
All things considered, Standard is actually giving BUW/BU mill decks a chance. An anti-mill card is soon to happen. Of course people will argue that this card is "useless" compared to the other Quests, but they're completely overlooking the deckbuilding aspect of the game. And why do we have to assume that every Quest is as "powered" as the next? What is the basis of "power" in the first place?
There are fifteen more cards to set aside. Quest for Ancient Secrets deserves a spot on those.
dont get me wrong, it is great for that, but this is also good in a mill deck, especially in multi player, often times, you will chew up the majority of your mill cards set on one opponent, and they will likely die from it
this resets your deck, for exactly the same reasons it is good anti mill, it is good mill assistance, especially if you have gotten the archmage going
deffinatly good multi player, as those will go later, and this can be used to recycle your bombs after they have been countered/destroyed/milled/used
you're stupid. have you ever thought about how stupid you are?
3.0
Yes its great for if your opponent mills you but the great thing is that it says target player
meaning it can also be used for when your opponents playing from graveyard. You can sac when they target something in thier graveyard so it doesnt resolve, Stop them from unearthing creatures or gaining counters on things like Pyromancers Ascesion.
Say somebody activated QfAS. Would I be able to use effects that let me exile cards from a graveyard as a response, before their graveyard goes back into their library?
@Kryptnyt:
The Cane might take much less time to set up, but this does have an advantage: The Cane is removed from the game to get the effect, so you only get to use it once. QfAS is sacrificed, which puts it into your graveyard before its effect goes off, meaning it goes back into your library along with everything else.
Blue is on-mana color for Dredge.
This can respond at instant speed to graveyard hate like Tormod's Crypt, Surgical Extraction, Fairie Macabre, and Relic of Progenitus, shuffling your cards back before they can be exiled.
Not broken, but ... useful for insurance, for
You might say "not as good at anti-hate as Pithing Needle" but consider: this doesn't require me to pre-guess which hate card to needle, I can crack it in response to enchantment destruction (which is rarer than artifact destruction like Ancient Grudge anyway), and I can use it versus Reanimator, Loam decks, or the Dredge mirror to hose the opponent by forcing a shuffle at the worst possible time.
Sweet. I'm off to update my sideboard.
You can mess up any opponent's game if he/she is using a deck running on its graveyard. 5 Counters on the Quest is all it takes.
Or, if you are playing a deck running on its graveyard yourself, this card is perfect to protect it from being removed from the game.
And since the Quest is put back into the library every time, you can even go for a long defensive game, waiting until your opponent mills him/herself.
And of course you could use it in combination with a card like Psychic Vortex. No chance you will mill yourself while drawing cards like a maniac.
This card is much more awesome that everybody seems to think.
Anti-graveyard...Tormod's Crypt