I love the idea of combing this thing with Brion Stoutarm. Double your life total, kill someone with commander damage (assuming Stoutarm is your commander), shuffle library. Like a boss.
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
40/40 in commander, dang.
1337vanguard
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Hmmm kinda wish we got the promo art on this...
Nexaduro
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Oh WotC, why do you do this to us?
DarthParallax
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
For a card that is essentially a Vanilla creature with a stat-defining ability, I'm torn.
I like the idea of a Big Huge Creature, but if you were otherwise going to make it Vanilla, why not instead make it? :
Defender
CARDNAME can block any number of creatures.
A Super Ultra Awesome Guardian would be fun....and you can put it in the same deck as Hundred-Handed One and that would be somewhat amusing :)
HEY! WIZARDS! How about a Creature-based Wall Deck support over here? I mean nobody really wants to play against Moat....but this is different because it dies to Doom Blade, right? ^_^
JmLyan
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
@DaLucaray Only combat damage counts as commander damage. Any deck with Brion as commander would most likely kill anyone by throwing your life total at them though, so commander damage or not is rarely relevant.
Mistralis
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@DaLucray: That wouldn't count as commander damage. Commander damage is only combat damage.
Anyways, regarding the actual card: This is such a good inclusion in Oloro's deck. Yeah, it'll get killed or countered almost immediately, but it at least gets rid of some removal that they may have saved. If they have chumpers, nothing a good ol' Whispersilk Cloak can't fix. And even still, you can just use it to gain a bunch of life off of Wall of Reverence. Throw in Sanguine Bond for good measure.
mtgatx
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
@Mistralis - I just got into Commander this weekend and pulled off the Serra AvatarWall of ReverenceSanguine Bond combo today to crush my two opponents in order. The first had no creatures on board so he was crushed by the 52/52, I ramped up to 104/104 and then cast Sanguine Bond to finish off the other guy.
I played this deck against my friends modified Mind Seize deck. this is how it went. (turn seven) Me:Plane and...Serra Avatar. Suck it! F: Red Blue and two, Essence Backlash
I later helped my friend fix the table we were using
so, if i give my avatar ('into the graveyard') the gift of immortality ('dies') and it should become mortalized, which ability resolves first?
Bbone37
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
"so, if i give my avatar ('into the graveyard') the gift of immortality ('dies') and it should become mortalized, which ability resolves first?"
Both being triggered effects, the tirgger being "when ~this~ dies" (basically), you would be able to stack the abilities as you wished. So stack the Avatar's ability first, then Gift's. Thanks to the "First In Last Out" nature of the almighty stack, Gift would return it to play, the Avatar's ability would do nothing (no shuffle as the rulings on this card specify), then EOT Gift would come back pending they are both still around by then.
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I like the idea of a Big Huge Creature, but if you were otherwise going to make it Vanilla, why not instead make it? :
Defender
CARDNAME can block any number of creatures.
A Super Ultra Awesome Guardian would be fun....and you can put it in the same deck as Hundred-Handed One and that would be somewhat amusing :)
HEY! WIZARDS! How about a Creature-based Wall Deck support over here? I mean nobody really wants to play against Moat....but this is different because it dies to Doom Blade, right? ^_^
Anyways, regarding the actual card: This is such a good inclusion in Oloro's deck. Yeah, it'll get killed or countered almost immediately, but it at least gets rid of some removal that they may have saved. If they have chumpers, nothing a good ol' Whispersilk Cloak can't fix. And even still, you can just use it to gain a bunch of life off of Wall of Reverence. Throw in Sanguine Bond for good measure.
My life may never be the same...awesome fun...
-Swag_Crow
(turn seven)
Me:Plane and...Serra Avatar. Suck it!
F: Red Blue and two, Essence Backlash
I later helped my friend fix the table we were using
Be sure to watch out for Essence Backlash when playing this...
BUt this stupid in EDH, especially Trostani edh
Both being triggered effects, the tirgger being "when ~this~ dies" (basically), you would be able to stack the abilities as you wished. So stack the Avatar's ability first, then Gift's. Thanks to the "First In Last Out" nature of the almighty stack, Gift would return it to play, the Avatar's ability would do nothing (no shuffle as the rulings on this card specify), then EOT Gift would come back pending they are both still around by then.