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Black Vise

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Black Vise

Comments (25)

Baconradar
★★★★☆ (4.3/5.0) (7 votes)
Ludicrous turn 1 play. Ludicrous with a deck built around it.
Guest2146443305
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (6 votes)
oh baby it's back
Nikeyeia
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (10 votes)
Wow, man. Glad thats not me.
Lionhawk
★☆☆☆☆ (1.9/5.0) (7 votes)
Where is our beloved indestructible "DOLL" friend from the previous artworks? This new art is not my cup of tea. 4/5
GrimjawxRULES
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (11 votes)
@Lionhawk: Pardon me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the art resemble the head of a certain doll we all know very well?
The doll looks like its taken quite a beating though - only the head remains.. ahh well, what can you expect after all these years of abusing?

If my interpretation of the art is correct, then all I can say is that I love it. It's very flavorful to see the torn-off head still being tortured after all these years. Poor doll, what exactly did you do to deserve this kind of punishment?
raptorjesus69
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (5 votes)
Key component in my Stasis deck, all around amazing card. How could you not love it?
5/5
FragNutMK1
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (7 votes)
Is this card standard?
TPmanW
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0) (9 votes)
Here it is folks, Gatherer's highest rated mythic rare- and it spent most of its life as an uncommon.
StuartHamilton
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0) (6 votes)
@GrimjawxRULES:

In the early days of the lord Storm Crow's reign, he betrayed the almighty one for a sack of metal coins...he never got to spend them...
Phoenix1901
★☆☆☆☆ (1.0/5.0) (1 vote)
This card isn't broken. There are plenty of answers to it, so why is it banned? It seems a lot more powerful than it is. It just forces your opponent to play unconventionally by not trying to always maintain card advantage. An example of a Legacy deck that can consistently beat this card is Affinity. Faeries or fish should have an answer (i.e. Force of Will), and Leyline of Sanctity makes it so this can't even target you.
Falgorn
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@GrimjawxRULES:
It's just that this doll has always been a glutton for punishment ;-)
sonorhC
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Ah, for the heady days of youth, when nobody thought twice of a first turn of land, Sol Ring, and two Black Vices.

Or then there was the time I was getting crushed by a Black Vise and a Howling Mine, and had nothing but an Island and a Mountain in play. I desperately tried to shrink my hand by casting a Power Sink and Red Elemental Blast on each other. Wouldn't be allowed under current rules, of course, but my opponent let me get away with it (it didn't matter anyway).

Barring land screw or lucky first turns, though, The Rack was almost always better, since most folks end up emptying out their hands pretty quick anyway.
asskicker123456789
★☆☆☆☆ (1.6/5.0) (4 votes)
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MasterOfBearLore
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0) (14 votes)
I once had a starting hand that consisted of one Swamp, two Dark Rituals, and four of these.

I lost a friend that day.
Purple_Shrimp
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (3 votes)
how come on Ivory Tower it's written as "four" but here it's "4"
MTGmechanized
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
4 of these, 4 iron maidens, 4 sol rings, 2 viseling, 2 boomerang, 2 vapor snag, 2 unsummon, 1 mana leak, 2 force of will, 2 phycic venom, 2 winter orbs, 4 arcane denial, 4 prosperity, 2 howling mine, 1 font of mythos, 1 horn of greed, 1 copy artifact, 1 frost titan, 20 islands. My Legit Casual Deck.
Grumman
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Combos with Forced Fruition (if they last that long)?
Russian.Thunder
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I'm mad at this card. I thought it functioned just like the Rack because the wording is so similar.
kiseki
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
A spell that costs 1 and frequently does between 7 and 10 damage to an opponent when dropped on the first turn is obscene.
I dislike playing against it, and I cannot put it in a deck in good conscience. "Hate" is not a strong enough word. I feel dirty for owning so many.

@MTGmechanized
Four sol rings in the same deck? Don't do that. They are restricted to one per deck for a reason.
adrian.malacoda
★★★★☆ (4.9/5.0) (4 votes)
@Purple_Shrimp

If you look at the oracle text for Ivory Tower you'll notice that it also reads "4" - they printed it as "four" on the card then corrected it in the oracle.

Life and damage are written out in numeral form, whereas amounts of cards and permanents are written in word form. That's why Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker deals "7 damage" to a player who then discards "seven cards"
DacenOctavio
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
At the crossroads of this and Dark Ritual, mono black was the most feared in all my early playgroups, and that's even before taking Necropotence intp account. Respect the Vise, and dread what follows.
atemu1234
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Had an opponent play a Draw deck with Consecrated Sphinx and Jin-Gitaxias. I won two turns later.
JaxsonBateman
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I'm a firm advocate of vintage legal cards not showing up in casual, and this is another clear example why. If you're not playing vintage and thus not necessarily playing out most of your hand in 1 or 2 turns, this thing is going to deal about ~7+ damage. For 1 colorless mana. If it's casual your opponent also has a higher chance of having a slow start (because less competitive archetypes can pop up), and if they do, then your vintage-only card is going to win the whole game for you.

If you play this in a casual game, don't be surprised if your opponent gets cheesed off with you.