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Nezumi Graverobber // Nighteyes the Desecrator

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Nezumi Graverobber // Nighteyes the Desecrator

Comments (19)

Schlappi
★★★☆☆ (3.6/5.0) (5 votes)
Theoretically pretty cool - but til you actually get him flipped...well, I think he's dead long before!^^
Draugnor
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (2 votes)
Schlappi's right. This card might as well have a bullseye painted on it. Love it on those rare occasions that it lives long enough to do its job, though. Use Terror to put his best creatures in the graveyard, then pop em right back out. Provided you can get the mana, of course.
Tanaka348
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (2 votes)
Big problem is that his flipped toughness is still only 2.
AXER
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (2 votes)
He only cost 2 CMC and his ability also only costs 2 CMC; you can get him out and flip him in the early game!
izzet_guild_mage
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (2 votes)
Ravenous Rats into this guy, then Cabal Coffers for mana...I've won many a game with this little guy. In fact, I put a Gaea's Cradle into my mono-black rat deck just to fuel him...
Angelicarbiter
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0) (2 votes)
turn 2 comes out no graveyard he flips that my experience.....
GrimjawxRULES
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (1 vote)
For what it's worth, Whispersilk Cloak can increase the survivability of this by a lot. Works wonders in a rogue deck.
theis999
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (6 votes)
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/24953389/Nezumi_Graverobber?post_id=450497033#450497033
and
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/21973461/Q:_Nezumi_Graverobber_and_triggering_partial_abilities?post_id=380735913#380735913

You can't activate the graverobbers ability without a target (a card in an opponents graveyard) and the ability will fizzle if the target isn't legal upon resolution. The graverobber will then check if it was there is any cards in that same graveyard, if there isn't any then you will flip the card.

That also means that the graverobber doesn't check as statebased action if there is an opponents graveyard that is empty.

So to put it simple: The graverobber will only flip if it exiles the last card in a graveyard.

I was unsure myself, that is why i did the research. But i still like the card, it reminds me about kamigawa and my rat deck^^
Tynansdtm
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (2 votes)
Is the ability "Remove a card from their graveyard, then if there are no cards, flip it" or "Remove a card from their graveyard, and if you can't, flip it"?

EDIT: Thanks for the update, theis!
DacenOctavio
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
A great concept, especially pre-level up. However the ability to kill this thing with something as mundane as Shock before and after it flips is . . . disturbing.
TPmanW
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Is this guy a valid general for edh? II mean you won't be playing him as a legend...
Probably best in multiplayer anyway were someone's sure to have a vacant graveyard and someone else is sure to have one full of goodies.
Megapossum
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Turn 1: Swamp, Tap for Dark Ritual, Drop Nezumi, Flip. Result, opponent crying that you just dropped a 4/2 with 1 mana.
Croquette
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
i wonder how 3 manas and an empty graveyard make you able to flip it turn 1?
Kryptnyt
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
a five-stars-for-fun card.
sarroth
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
@TPManW: I'm assuming you mean "you wouldn't be playing him as a Commander," as he doesn't stop being a legend when you play him in EDH/Commander. Yes, he's legal. Simply put, if he's not on the Banned list, and I just checked http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php so I know he isn't, then of course you can play him, even as your Commander if you really wanted to.

I'll probably put him in a WBR deck along with Geth, Lord of the Vault, Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni, and Scythe of the Wretched for his synergy with Tariel, Reckoner of Souls, even if he might never get flipped. Then again, even if he doesn't get flipped, he can remove the more fodder creatures just like Cemetery Reaper and and Withered Wretch, helping to assure that whatever Tariel randomly pulls you, it's at least one card more likely to be something useful.
Cyberium
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
An instant flip with Tormod's Crypt on turn two, or three if you want a big surprise. Or Dark Ritual -> Thought Seize -> Nezumi, then Tormod's Crypt next turn.
Arachnos
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@Angelicarbiter: pretty sure he doesn't work that way. He needs to remove a card from a graveyard to flip first.

Nevertheless, if he came out on turn 2 that means he can easily remove the next card that gets sent into the opponent's graveyard and flip for the win.
Pope_Smotage
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This guy is FANTASTIC in an EDH deck b/c they can't build to have the answers as easily.
fujimoto
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The ability has to have a legal target (a card in a graveyard) to be activated and resolved. It's all one ability. So, if the graveyard is already empty, you can't activate the ability, Graverobber doesn't flip.

If it were 2 separate abilities then it would flip without having to exile a card first.