Pointed Discussion

Not great, but a flavorful replacement for Mind Control in limited

Thalakos Deceiver, perhaps?

Worse than mind control, expensive and fragile as a creature, I'm not a huge fan of this. Good flavor though.

I'd rather not beat around the bush, and use Mind Control instead. Not terrible though, could be nice if your deck relies on control effects.

part of me is like 'ooh!! Gothic horror flavor! neat!' when they show stuff like horrible demons and monstrous werewolves and junk.

and then I look back at some of the commons and think....'wow. all the bad stuff happens to the peasant girls. they're like Innistrad's drakes.'

ok so at the prerelease last night we were playing sealed. My opponent Soul Seized my Soul Seizer.
What happens when he attacks with my Soul Seizer and transforms it into an enchantment and his souls Seizer falls off?

He was a lvl 1 judge and said that because it was no longer a creature he didn't lose control of it, but to me it seems that if he'd soul Seized my Inkmoth Nexus and then it turned back into a land i would get the Nexus back.

Any thoughts?

@StagemasterK
From DKA FAQs on Wizard's site specifically under Soul Seizer:
Transforming a permanent doesn't affect any Auras or Equipment attached to that permanent, provided they can still legally be attached to it. Similarly, any counters on the permanent will remain on that permanent after it transforms, even if those counters don't have any visible effect (for example, a +1/+1 counter on a noncreature permanent).

That bold line seems to imply what I've always known to happen with Auras. If the attached object is no longer the type that is on the first line of the Aura ("Enchant Creature/Land/Etc"), it is illegal and falls off (Goes to the owner's graveyard) just as if that object gained protection from a color of that Aura.

I don't think Judges should "throw their weight around" in games/events they are participating in. If an issue arises, the first thing out of their mouth shouldn't be "Trust me, I'm a judge." There is no way they can be impartial, no matter how much they try to fool themselves. It's a conflict of interests, plain and simple. You probably should have asked the event coordinator (or store owner, if it was at a card shop).

It's not Better Than Mind Control, but it's decent. In spirit tribal, this guy can do a fair amount of damage before deciding to steal one of your opponent's creatures. It blocks weenies until your opponent drops something worth stealing, if that's your thing.

Edit: @StagemasterK,
I will just refer to Soul Seizer as SS, since that's a pain in the ass to type out.
His SS flipped into Ghastly Haunting, on your SS.
So now he controls your SS. He attacks you with your SS. Your SS flips over into Ghastly Haunting, and attaches to a creature you control. Ghastly haunting is not a valid subject for a creature enchantment, and his ghastly haunting falls off.
You now have your own ghastly haunting attached to your own creature. You control the ghastly haunting, and the underlying creature.

So yeah, his ghastly haunting would fall off, transform back, and go directly to the graveyard, leaving you with a redundant mind control on your own creature.

At least it's less of a rules nightmare than licids.

It's still overcosted- especially since mind control does the same thing. At 4 mana, this would be much more playable.

When Ghastly Haunting goes to the graveyard Soul Seizer should return to the battlefield.

Just make it a rare and you're good to go

Is it possible this card could circumvent hexproof creatures? When you transform it, attach it to target creature that player controls. Could you attach it to a HexProof Creature?

in spirit decks, this can be good. one slot gives you the option of another attacker OR you can take opponents blocker. however, with prey upon, blood feud, etc. running around, your mind control could be eaten...

Use your imaginenation guys. this is the perfect substitue for mind control in any grave caller deck. think about it. for gravecaller decks a mind control in the graveyard does nothing, but this card will. one question though is it posible to make this a token then transform the token or will something skrew up when you try to have enchanment token?

@KnexWiz You can only transform double sided cards. Tokens and single sided creatures that copy a double sided card CANNOT transform under any circumstances. I'd link the rule somewhere but I'm lazy. It's under Innistrand comprehensive rules for double sided cards if you don't believe me.

This card is far better than it is getting credit for. In Standard this card is a question that demands and answer from your opponent. As a 3 drop you have Drogskol Captain which means this card will always drop after that making this a 2/4 Flying Hexproof for 5 and you could do worse than that. Because it has hexproof your opponent can't just throw removal at it. Chances are if you are at the stage in the game that you are investing 5cmc on critters your opponent is too.

Here's the question they have to ask themselves: How do I invest my blockers? Do I block this creature which isn't even scary or do I block a real threat? If I go with the threat then they could take my threat, so what should I do?

That's the kind of position blue wants its opponents in, it puts you in CONTROL of the game...

This shouldn't be a four of for sure, maybe not even a 3 of. 1 or 2 is more than enough. It can swing a game if you can grab something like Falkenrath Noble or a Hellrider. Sure, neither of those are mystics but Hellrider works well in token decks as can Falkenrath Noble and neither of them are cards you are likely to put in a spirit tribal. This card really does have a place.

Incredibly flavorful, but sadly outclassed by a simple Mind Control.

Strictly limited fodder.

Poor in comparison to Mind Control or Corrupted Concience

What's with Innistrad block and sticking enchantments onto 1/3 creatures?

Combo him with Ixidron to get a threat that flies over your opponent's face-down 2/2 creatures.

Should at least cost .