...and to the ever-more-curious and yet-further-uninitiated, the fella in the back is Anger. Hence, the sword-envy.
bijart_dauth
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
Aside from the obvious of something with an obsinly long name. Its one mana for a pump that it most likely going to be at least a little significant. Thrun, the last troll gets +4/+4 for 1 mana, and he's a powerfull card to begin with. Keeper of the sacred word gets +5/+5 and he's already epic. Naturally your going to want to run OMRSTPLRLCNSWMTCTHTALCNEE for a double-rainbow level of amazing boost, but its really not necessary.
Goatllama
★★★★☆ (4.9/5.0)(7 votes)
Quite possibly the best flavor text ever. "Eat a díck, Sol'kanar!" – Stangg
It doesn't quite work with ____ the way most people want it to.
You have to change ____'s name to the actual name of a card 'because it can only turn into things that exist in the game', according to Wizards.
Using this Knowledge, I completely obliterated the entire fabric of the game on a much more direct and fundamental and might I say FAR more DISASTROUS way than most people would have thought of.
Name ____ 'The Comprehensive Rulebook'. Because of Wizards' own ruling, either this works, or The Comprehensive Rulebook doesn't exist in the game. Which means....what? O.o LET'S FIND OUT! They really need to be more careful about what they say, lol, BECAUSE-
So. Once you have a permanent named 'The Comprehensive Rulebook', target it with 'Look At Me, I'm the DCI!'.
There. THERE.
I just BANNED The Comprehensive Rulebook. With cards that they actually made. I am the Ultimate Johnny. Bow to the Master and Lord of Chaos and Combos! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
Once you've Banned THE RULEBOOK, THEN you can choose to name another ______ something crazy like "the entire text of the seven Harry Potter books'', then use Wordmail.
And that, I believe, might be about the most epic thing you can do in Magic: The Gathering.
KingJCa
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@DarthParallax That would be a 1,084,170/1,084,170, congrats on breaking the game.
CorkBulb
★★★★☆ (4.1/5.0)(6 votes)
@DarthParallax
OBJECTION!
I just happen to be a rules lawyer and object to your interpretation of both the ruling for "_____" (the card with no name) and "Look at Me, I'm the DCI"
First of, lets take a look at the official Mark Rosewater ruling for "____" in the FAQTIWDAWCC (Frequently Asked Questions That If We Didn't Answer Would Cause Chaos) http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=magic/faq/unhinged)):
"_____...
... Can I change this card to be Jojo, the Dog-faced Lizard Boy?
No.
Can I change it to be Solar-Powered Ninja Penguin?
No.
Can I change it to be Siamese Pygmy Pole-Vaulter?
No. To save us some space, maybe I should let you know what it can become. You may change this card to have the name of any _Magic_ card in existence.
So, you can only to change it to an actual printed card's name. As far as I know, there is no card printed with the name "The Comprehensive Rulebook". Lets check:
The Comprehensive Rulebook. Nope. Comprehensive Rulebook. Nothing. Comprehensive Rules. Zip. Rulebook. Eh-eh. Rules. Oh boy. Looks like you can't even name the card "rules". So, your combo is looking pretty illegal right now.
Next, lets look at Look at Me, I'm the DCI. If we take a close reading of the oracle text (which is the same as the card's text since un-sets do not receive oracle updates):
"Ban one card, other than a basic land, for the remainder of the match. (For the remainder of the match, each player removes from the game all copies of that card in play or in any graveyard, hand, library, or sideboard.)
We have to name a *card* and remove all copies of that card with that name from in play (on the battlefield), in a graveyard, in a hand (of cards) in a library and in a sideboard. Well, The (actual) Comprehensive Rulebook isn't a card, nor is it found "in play" (on the battlefield), in a hand (of cards) or in a library, graveyard or sideboard.
So, we can't name ____ "The Comprehensive Rulebook" since there is no printed card in the history of all Magic: The Gathering with that name. Even if we could, we could only remove cards named "The Comprehensive Rulebook" from in play (on the battlefield), in hands (of cards) in libraries, graveyards and sideboards. Look at Me, I'm the DCI says nothing about removing things with that name from anywhere else, and since The (actual) Comprehensive Rulebook IS NOT located in those zones, we cannot remove it from the game.
Since we cannot remove The (actual) Comprehensive Rulebook, or any rules within it, from the game, you CANNOT change _____'s name to "the entire text of all seven Harry Potter books". I would also have to point out that you would technically have to say all 1,084,170 words to officially name ____ all the words in the text of all seven Harry Potter books, which would take an excessively long time to say and would violate tournament rules stating that players are expected to play at a reasonable pace. I'm sure a judge would cut you off after 50 or so words anyway.
So, Darthparallax, YOUR COMBO IS ILLEGAL!
And of course, _____ enchanted with Wordmail dies to Doom Blade. THERE! I SAID IT!
There. I have saved The Comprehensive Rulebook from total anarchy. I am the ultimate rules lawyer. MWUHAHAHAHAAAAA!!! Bow to my ultimate rules knowledge! (and never argue with me about a technical aspect of the game ever again).
Salient
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
This is the only card in the multiverse for which quoting the flavor text verbatim in comments is awesome:
Suck on it, Stangg.
DarthParallax -- even if CorkBulb's point about the word 'card' was incorrect, or even if they printed The Comprehensive Rulebook on a card, your combo doesn't work because mathematics.
The technical problem working against you is known as the Incompleteness Theorem. Short and sorta butchered version, the complete rules of the game of Magic can't exist in the game, they exist in a meta-space encompassing the game. How can we know this for certain? Any sufficiently complex game created within a rules structure can't completely contain that rules structure. The minimal requirement is internalized logical and basic mathematical operations (all of which we can derive from Doubling Season, Opalescence, and Followed Footsteps enchanting Doubling Season); we can actually construct polynomial statements of arbitrarily high degree.
Enzensberger would say, You can describe your own language in your own language: but not completely. You can describe the rules for Magic within the rulebound game of Magic (this is literally what reminder text does), but you can't do so completely. The rulebook sits, as it must, outside the game.
(This is, admittedly, not quite rigorous...)
Arachnos
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I like to picture Our Market Research Shows That Players Like Really Long Card Names So We Made this Card to Have the Absolute Longest Card Name Ever Elemental growing two giant wings made of a lot of ghostly floating words when he's enchanted with this.
@DarthParallax: If you *somehow* managed to ban the rules of magic, that would mean you removed all ruling that indicates when and how you win the game. The very idea that you could ban the rules while still continuing to play is downright stupid.
Comments (13)
"Eat a díck, Sol'kanar!"
– Stangg
You have to change ____'s name to the actual name of a card 'because it can only turn into things that exist in the game', according to Wizards.
Using this Knowledge, I completely obliterated the entire fabric of the game on a much more direct and fundamental and might I say FAR more DISASTROUS way than most people would have thought of.
Name ____ 'The Comprehensive Rulebook'. Because of Wizards' own ruling, either this works, or The Comprehensive Rulebook doesn't exist in the game. Which means....what? O.o LET'S FIND OUT!
They really need to be more careful about what they say, lol, BECAUSE-
So. Once you have a permanent named 'The Comprehensive Rulebook', target it with 'Look At Me, I'm the DCI!'.
There.
THERE.
I just BANNED The Comprehensive Rulebook. With cards that they actually made. I am the Ultimate Johnny. Bow to the Master and Lord of Chaos and Combos! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!
Once you've Banned THE RULEBOOK, THEN you can choose to name another ______ something crazy like "the entire text of the seven Harry Potter books'', then use Wordmail.
And that, I believe, might be about the most epic thing you can do in Magic: The Gathering.
OBJECTION!
I just happen to be a rules lawyer and object to your interpretation of both the ruling for "_____" (the card with no name) and "Look at Me, I'm the DCI"
First of, lets take a look at the official Mark Rosewater ruling for "____" in the FAQTIWDAWCC (Frequently Asked Questions That If We Didn't Answer Would Cause Chaos) http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=magic/faq/unhinged)):
"_____...
... Can I change this card to be Jojo, the Dog-faced Lizard Boy?
No.
Can I change it to be Solar-Powered Ninja Penguin?
No.
Can I change it to be Siamese Pygmy Pole-Vaulter?
No. To save us some space, maybe I should let you know what it can become. You may change this card to have the name of any _Magic_ card in existence.
So, you can only to change it to an actual printed card's name. As far as I know, there is no card printed with the name "The Comprehensive Rulebook". Lets check:
The Comprehensive Rulebook. Nope. Comprehensive Rulebook. Nothing. Comprehensive Rules. Zip. Rulebook. Eh-eh. Rules. Oh boy. Looks like you can't even name the card "rules". So, your combo is looking pretty illegal right now.
Next, lets look at Look at Me, I'm the DCI. If we take a close reading of the oracle text (which is the same as the card's text since un-sets do not receive oracle updates):
"Ban one card, other than a basic land, for the remainder of the match. (For the remainder of the match, each player removes from the game all copies of that card in play or in any graveyard, hand, library, or sideboard.)
We have to name a *card* and remove all copies of that card with that name from in play (on the battlefield), in a graveyard, in a hand (of cards) in a library and in a sideboard. Well, The (actual) Comprehensive Rulebook isn't a card, nor is it found "in play" (on the battlefield), in a hand (of cards) or in a library, graveyard or sideboard.
So, we can't name ____ "The Comprehensive Rulebook" since there is no printed card in the history of all Magic: The Gathering with that name. Even if we could, we could only remove cards named "The Comprehensive Rulebook" from in play (on the battlefield), in hands (of cards) in libraries, graveyards and sideboards. Look at Me, I'm the DCI says nothing about removing things with that name from anywhere else, and since The (actual) Comprehensive Rulebook IS NOT located in those zones, we cannot remove it from the game.
Since we cannot remove The (actual) Comprehensive Rulebook, or any rules within it, from the game, you CANNOT change _____'s name to "the entire text of all seven Harry Potter books". I would also have to point out that you would technically have to say all 1,084,170 words to officially name ____ all the words in the text of all seven Harry Potter books, which would take an excessively long time to say and would violate tournament rules stating that players are expected to play at a reasonable pace. I'm sure a judge would cut you off after 50 or so words anyway.
So, Darthparallax, YOUR COMBO IS ILLEGAL!
And of course, _____ enchanted with Wordmail dies to Doom Blade. THERE! I SAID IT!
There. I have saved The Comprehensive Rulebook from total anarchy. I am the ultimate rules lawyer. MWUHAHAHAHAAAAA!!! Bow to my ultimate rules knowledge! (and never argue with me about a technical aspect of the game ever again).
Suck on it, Stangg.
DarthParallax -- even if CorkBulb's point about the word 'card' was incorrect, or even if they printed The Comprehensive Rulebook on a card, your combo doesn't work because mathematics.
The technical problem working against you is known as the Incompleteness Theorem. Short and sorta butchered version, the complete rules of the game of Magic can't exist in the game, they exist in a meta-space encompassing the game. How can we know this for certain? Any sufficiently complex game created within a rules structure can't completely contain that rules structure. The minimal requirement is internalized logical and basic mathematical operations (all of which we can derive from Doubling Season, Opalescence, and Followed Footsteps enchanting Doubling Season); we can actually construct polynomial statements of arbitrarily high degree.
Enzensberger would say, You can describe your own language in your own language: but not completely. You can describe the rules for Magic within the rulebound game of Magic (this is literally what reminder text does), but you can't do so completely. The rulebook sits, as it must, outside the game.
(This is, admittedly, not quite rigorous...)
Also, this + Isamaru, Hound of Konda makes a turn 2 6/6, not shabby!