Stuffy doll. it'd work perfectly in Legacy and Vintage.
nibelheim_valesti
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I surprised a fair few people with the same combo using Mogg Maniac + Blessings of Leeches back before the doll existed. But yeh, it does work better that way.
Let's assume Guilty Conscience is already attached.
1: Stuffy doll takes 1 damage.
2: Stuffy doll deals one damage to a player as a result of taking damage.
3: Stuffy doll takes 1 damage as a result from dealing damage.
4: goto 2
Because the damage has to resolve before the next ability goes on the stack, the player loses as a state-based effect between steps 2 and 3, making all damage past that point null.
HairlessThoctar
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
That flavor text gives me goosebumps...
DysprosiumJudas
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
One of the most "artistic" pieces of art I've seen in Magic. One of Christopher Moeller's best.
okaaaaay
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(2 votes)
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bijart_dauth
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(9 votes)
not so win with stuffy. unless you add in something to stop it, its an unlimited combo with no intervening may. thus the game ends in a draw
@NoobOfLore: I'm fairly certain that if at any time an infinite combo goes off without some sort of "may" clause to allow a player to stop it, even if the combo would instantly win the game ends in a draw unless any play chooses to cast a spell to stop the loop before it starts. There for there is no way to kill someone using the doll and this. Same thing with Nive Mizzit the firemind and Helm of the Ghastlord, even though the combo would instantly win you the game, it counts as unending loop and thus the game is a draw. Stupid i know, but unless they've changed the rules sense i last looked it up than thats how it works
apollogod
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(5 votes)
@bijart,
The interaction between stuffy doll and guilty conscience is not an infinite loop part of the resolution of some effect. Each time the doll deals damage, and then each time guilty conscience deals damage back to the doll, is a separate trigger. State-based actions, such as checking life totals, is done each time a trigger or spell resolves.
So, once the trigger resolves to take your opponent from 1 life to 0 life, his or her life total will be checked (under state-based actions), and they will lose the game.
Also, not to be too judgmental, but please don't tell people a combo does not work when in fact, it works.
This card shuts down many red creatures who have more power then toughness, and can make the opponent think twice about sending other creatures into battle while enchanted with this. Guilty Conscience was designed to be a utility/support card at the time it was printed, and does it's job rather well. I think the only better white removal spell at the time was Swords to Plowshares.
Lord_Ascapelion
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Eh, to the guy who was talking about Swords to Plowshares in comparison: No, this card isn't nearly as good as Swords (then again, what is?) It pretty much shuts a creature down for attacking... more than once. Honestly, Pacifism is better. However, this would probably be pretty good in limited and of course, Stuffy Doll combos.
Secksee
★★★☆☆ (3.4/5.0)(6 votes)
There is a boob house in the background.
atemu1234
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
@bijart_darth Nope, he's correct. If you have 0 or less life, you lose, unless stated otherwise, even if it keeps dealing damage.
Habreno
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(1 vote)
Stuffy Doll + Guilty Conscience combo. Nice, but defeated by Platnium Angel or other effects that state you cannot lose the game. Of which one is an instant for {W}.
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
If it wasn't for stuffy, this card would have been long forgotten.
pedrodyl
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Part of one of the handful of two-card kill combos ever. For that alone I give it 4/5
EKraj
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Awesome name for this card.
"Another corporate show, a guilty conscience grows."
Doesn't matter if it's an opponents swan or if it's yours, you will be the one drawing cards.
TravisBlanchard
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
The picture shows some dude pooping on some other dudes face
SeanyB
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
So we have a Stuffy Doll + Guilty Conscience combo, what if I made myself the target, did the combo and used Reverse Polarity? Is that a legal combo? Or did I just break the game?
Pennsic_Mercenary
★☆☆☆☆ (1.5/5.0)(1 vote)
This art is just anotha example of the white devil keepin' a black man down! Just look at it! First you got a dead white boy laying on the ground, and a brotha slinkin' away from the scene of the crime. Then you gotta place the crime in a white neighborhood (note the white women loosin' her sh*t in the background) portrayin' the black man as already out of "his element"; this point is further emphasized by the fact that the women is in some fine-ass threads, while the brotha is dressed like he just escaped from his "masters" chain gang. Lastly, the whole scene is takin place on what color card? WHITE! A card named "guilty conscience", tellin' a framed brotha' he oughta be feeling guilty for killin his massa! Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit........ A fine card, a fine-ass card indeed! ;)
car2n
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
It's funny how a stupid card like this becomes a threat with a goofy card like Stuffy Doll.
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I think I would feel a little 'guilty' playing this combo. . .
lol, but a shock would work just as well
Let's assume Guilty Conscience is already attached.
1: Stuffy doll takes 1 damage.
2: Stuffy doll deals one damage to a player as a result of taking damage.
3: Stuffy doll takes 1 damage as a result from dealing damage.
4: goto 2
Because the damage has to resolve before the next ability goes on the stack, the player loses as a state-based effect between steps 2 and 3, making all damage past that point null.
@NoobOfLore: I'm fairly certain that if at any time an infinite combo goes off without some sort of "may" clause to allow a player to stop it, even if the combo would instantly win the game ends in a draw unless any play chooses to cast a spell to stop the loop before it starts. There for there is no way to kill someone using the doll and this. Same thing with Nive Mizzit the firemind and Helm of the Ghastlord, even though the combo would instantly win you the game, it counts as unending loop and thus the game is a draw. Stupid i know, but unless they've changed the rules sense i last looked it up than thats how it works
The interaction between stuffy doll and guilty conscience is not an infinite loop part of the resolution of some effect. Each time the doll deals damage, and then each time guilty conscience deals damage back to the doll, is a separate trigger. State-based actions, such as checking life totals, is done each time a trigger or spell resolves.
So, once the trigger resolves to take your opponent from 1 life to 0 life, his or her life total will be checked (under state-based actions), and they will lose the game.
Also, not to be too judgmental, but please don't tell people a combo does not work when in fact, it works.
This card shuts down many red creatures who have more power then toughness, and can make the opponent think twice about sending other creatures into battle while enchanted with this. Guilty Conscience was designed to be a utility/support card at the time it was printed, and does it's job rather well. I think the only better white removal spell at the time was Swords to Plowshares.
"Another corporate show, a guilty conscience grows."
Doesn't matter if it's an opponents swan or if it's yours, you will be the one drawing cards.