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Echoing Courage

Multiverse ID: 46169

Echoing Courage

Comments (19)

ttian
★★☆☆☆ (2.1/5.0) (5 votes)
I can't hear any courage
John-Bender
★★★☆☆ (3.2/5.0) (2 votes)
Good for and Elves deck. Llanowar Elf is pretty perfect with it. Powers up Llano while he can get another copy into play.
Sooku
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (2 votes)
Saprolings are the obvious choice, but this really works with any sort of creature token. It also works great with self-replicating creatures, such as Mirror-Sigil Sergeant.
Draugnor
★★☆☆☆ (2.3/5.0) (3 votes)
The best of the 5 echoing cards, in my opinion.
BelloAbril
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0) (3 votes)
Echoing Truth is the natural counter to this and all other token oriented cards. They are on the same power level.
Gaussgoat
★★★☆☆ (3.0/5.0) (4 votes)
Great card for horde decks of practically any kind, the low casting cost makes this one pretty viable.
Alqatrkapa
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0) (5 votes)
Saprolings anyone?
KMcombine
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0) (6 votes)
Sqirrels can also be courageous
Eved
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (3 votes)
Eldrazi Spawn too.
TheChurchIsHere
★☆☆☆☆ (1.2/5.0) (2 votes)
Does this work on tokens? There are some cards that say, "put a token named _____ into play," so wouldn't that mean that a 1/1 saproling token technically doesn't have a name? Just curious...
EvilCleavage
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (4 votes)
I believe Echoing Truth to be better. You can really screw up someones plan, especially when they have out a bunch of tokens. All back to hand(or should i say aether) Wam bam thankyou mam.
Hyroko
★☆☆☆☆ (1.0/5.0) (1 vote)
this card + precursor golem
Atali
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Yes this works like everyone thinks it does on tokens.

110.5c

"If the spell or ability doesn’t specify the name of the creature token, its name is the same as its
creature type(s)."
PlasticAvatar
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
So...

How do you think this would work with Precursor Golem?

Would the token bit from 110.5c mean if it is cast on one of the tokens, it affects all Golems?

My initial thought was to cast it on one of the tokens, giving it and the other token +4/+4 combined, then the original would only get +2/+2 because the name is different... but, if this token logic is sound, would that mean the original would get +6/+6?

djflo
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (2 votes)
This is not as good as Echoing Truth, but it is better than all the rest generally and is still quite a useful card, particularly in token decks obviously.
TPmanW
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
Better than Echoing Decay because while echoing decay requires your opponent to play multiples of the same creatures, echoing courage depends on what's in your deck so you always know you'll hit multiple creatures with it.
Ragamander
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0) (1 vote)
@PlasticAvatar:

No, the tokens (named "Golem") would get +4/+4, while the original (named "Precursor Golem") would get only +2/+2.

Of course, you could always Cackling Counterpart one of them first, making four extra "Golem" tokens and one extra "Precursor Golem." Then, if you cast it on a "Precursor Golem," the following happens:

Copied twice for each other Golem, making a total of twelve Echoing Courages on permanents named "Golem" and three on permanents named "Precursor Golem" (twice on each of the six "Golem" tokens, and twice on the other "Precursor Golem," plus the original).

So, the six "Golem" tokens each get +24/+24, while the two Precursor Golems each get +6/+6. Follow up with Reckless Charge so that the Cackling Counterparts can attack immediately, for a total of 204 damage!!


I really want to build this deck now.
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Overpriced by 1, still playable though. 2.5/5