There is no interaction with double strike, as it is a different ability than first strike.
This thing is pretty pushed. Awesome in a Soldier deck.
00zau
★☆☆☆☆ (1.8/5.0)(2 votes)
What happens if you and your opponent have one?
SirLibraryEater
★★★☆☆ (3.8/5.0)(2 votes)
Seems pretty nuts, especially at uncommon. The best combos with some deathtouchy-feely creatures or Archetype of Finality.
Purplerooster
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(2 votes)
Best archetype in the cycle. Makes an army of chump blockers into a reputable force.
Leo...Preliator
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(1 vote)
When you and your opponent both have an archetype, their abilities kick in, which give all of your creatures the designated ability, however each of their "can't" clauses factor in, altering the game's rules so that you're creatures can't get the boost. Whenever two cards contradict one another, the "can't" or "does not" (basically the negative ability) wins, and that is the one that is followed.
So when the same archetype is on both sides of the battlefield, no one gets (insert ability here.)
This specific archetype does not affect double strike, seeing as a creature with double strike does not *have* first strike, it just deals damage in both the first strike, and normal combat phases.
Cloudchaser.Kestrel
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Maybe its because this was the first archetype I saw, but this is the archetypal archetype for me - along with archetype of imagination it creates and prevents something that interacts specifically with the opposing creatures. As opposed to hexproof or haste where your opponent having it doesn't normally negate the usefulness of you having it.
I'm also fascinated by how color pie interacts here. first strike doesn't interact with flying or hexproof much, but its definitely good against deathtouch and haste. Unfortunately I can't quite make as much of the other ones.
Avensai
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
A good Archetype, but now mono-white is REALLY cluttered at the three drop spot, where previously it had only been moderately cluttered. Let's count the ways, shall we? Fiendslayer Paladin, Spear of Heliod, Banisher Priest, Ajani, Caller of the Pride, and now Brimaz, King of Oreskos all make this card less and less attractive to play. Especially the last two. People will have to choose which creature they play and I fear Mister Archetype here is the weakest of the bunch...
NinStarRune
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
White weenie GO!
HotHit
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Ever played Duels of the Planeswalkers and played two 2/2s with first strike? The AI will not attack into that with anything below 5 toughness. That's not just dumb AI, that's because that board state is incredibly strong.
While it's a bit of an awkward curve because of the double white, it's possible to have Sedge Scorpion and Baleful Eidolon come in earlier. Easily the best of the cycle.
PastProphet
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
"Best archetype in the cycle. Makes an army of chump blockers into a reputable force. " You mean Heliod, God of the Sun, right?
ToAsTy42o
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
you guys DO NOT REALIZE how STRONG this card is until you already have 3 or 4 guys out. Even hydras stop attacking. at pre-release, i had a 3/1, a 2/1, a 2/2 and this. that was 9 first strike damage ready to block anything. i eventually got out a small flier and poked to him to within Dauntless Onslaught range.
Quizziel
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
I tore up the prerelease with this card! Best Archetype in the set!
Guest1225018570
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This card is probably the best Archetype of them all. He is cheap and makes every creature you have a threat.
Dabok
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This may be one of the best costed of the five Archetypes, in that his ability is as strong as the higher costing Archetypes, but remains rather cheaply costed. For that reason alone, I think this card is sweet, factor in the fact that giving all your creatures First Strike puts you in a very good defensive position, this card is just plain great.
Lord_of_phyrexia
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Can someone please alter the art on this to show the Cowardly Lion from "The Wizard of Oz"?
WolfWhoWalks
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Although the 3-drop block in white is hella cluttered, this card is a must have in mono-white EDH soldier tribal. Love it!
Raexs
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
For mono-white, this is a clear choice over Knighthood. Not only is the effect superior, but this enchantment can also swing!
Hmm, Apparently this guy, and those like him were originally in New Phyrexia, http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/143 *scroll to just under the picture of Elesh Norn*
They used to be called Elites* but were cut when the Praetor's replaced them
I wonder if any WotC employee will notice this and make a note here...
Im glad this guy did eventually make it into MTG, all the Archetypes are much stronger then they look, and they all look really strong
*although personally I prefer the name 'Archetype'
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This thing is pretty pushed. Awesome in a Soldier deck.
So when the same archetype is on both sides of the battlefield, no one gets (insert ability here.)
This specific archetype does not affect double strike, seeing as a creature with double strike does not *have* first strike, it just deals damage in both the first strike, and normal combat phases.
I'm also fascinated by how color pie interacts here. first strike doesn't interact with flying or hexproof much, but its definitely good against deathtouch and haste. Unfortunately I can't quite make as much of the other ones.
While it's a bit of an awkward curve because of the double white, it's possible to have Sedge Scorpion and Baleful Eidolon come in earlier. Easily the best of the cycle.
You mean Heliod, God of the Sun, right?
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/143
*scroll to just under the picture of Elesh Norn*
They used to be called Elites* but were cut when the Praetor's replaced them
I wonder if any WotC employee will notice this and make a note here...
Im glad this guy did eventually make it into MTG, all the Archetypes are much stronger then they look, and they all look really strong
*although personally I prefer the name 'Archetype'
4/5 Stars
May 18th, 2014