Rainbow Vale still beats this. I'd rather share a land then take a punch to the face every time i tap it.
Mode
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(4 votes)
Depends on how much that punch hurts, KarmasPayment. Unless you're going to need this land only a very view times, i advise playing City of Bráss instead. And if you're even going to need that mana of any color only a single time, use Tendo Ice Bridge instead.
Or you could, although likely not with sensible results, try to redirect the damage by using cards like Harm's Way, Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo, Pariah, or similar choices...
Dang 3 life is steep. I guess the hope is you'll only need to pay for the mana of any color a few times and decide to run Tendo Ice Bridge instead.
GCNDAN3702
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(3 votes)
@ MalleusAetis
What about Tamanoa? Yes, you gain the life back, but unless you're playing a niche deck with lifegain triggers such as Ageless Entity and Well of lost Dreams, it really doesn't matter as you're right back where you started! For those kinds of decks (which I have btw) I would rather use the painlands from 10th Ed since they essentially do the same thing but with less risk/pain before you get Tamanoa out.
No, this card is very much useless except in the most niche decks. Like my EDH Darien, King of Kjeldor deck :D
sorin688
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
this works as an emergercy card to get the right stuff as an emergency but it deals a lot of damage to you so only in an emergency so it sucks
Mattmedia
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(3 votes)
It's like a free lightning bolt each turn, although non targetable and always point at you
Nagoragama
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0)(4 votes)
Grand Coliseum comes into play tapped. City of Brass always deals damage to you when you tap it, even if all you need is colorless mana. This card allows you to get the color you need, when you need it, and then, when all you need to do is pay the colorless costs of cards, it won't damage you anymore.
HolyCause
★★★★☆ (4.8/5.0)(5 votes)
Useful in Dredge, but only because one cannot run 7 copies of City of Brass. Grand Coliseum comes into play tapped which for Dredge is a whole turn wasted; three damage is worth it if it means killing your opponent one turn sooner (i.e., winning).
Etsap
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(2 votes)
Put this in your Darien, King of Kjeldor deck! Three 1/1 Soldier tokens at instant speed, and you get a colored mana?
Kagatob
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(3 votes)
I want to try this card with Purity for added laughs.
Evil_Tactics
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(3 votes)
I gave this 3.5/5 for a reason. People are comparing this to City of Brass, which is fine. Overall Brass is more efficient if you're not trying to kill yourself as fast for colored mana.
However, keep in mind that at the worst case scenario other than outright killing yourself, you can still tap this for 1 colorless, and this land doesn't enter the battlefield tapped.
All of that aside, players have to recognize this land as a combo land. Obviously you're not going to play this over City of Brass for straight up color use. This is the only land that will give you optional painfree mana when you don't want to hurt yourself, yet can deal 3 damage to you when you WANT it to. Yes Tamanoa works okay if you combo in lifegain triggers, but currently as mentioned previously it's all about Darien, King of Kjeldor.
No other land will easily deal 3 damage to yourself while giving yourself any color mana. That's 3 1/1 soldier tokens at instant speed, and if you combo in either Essence Warden, Soul Warden, and/or Soul's Attendant you can get even more life back than you lost.
This land is best at what it can do, it shouldn't be rated so badly just cause it has specialized use. This is a combo land, nothing more. Heck, the Grand Coliseum variant of this that enters the battlefield tapped, that is even worse if you compare it to City of Brass. This land deserves at least higher than a 2, it fills a useful niche that no other land achieves.
fibonacci112358
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Do you think Conley Woods will use this card at some point?
I actually think this is better than City of Brass if you're playing it in a mostly colorless or artifact deck, where most of the time you're fine with colorless mana but occasionally need it for whatever multi-color spells you may have.
It's also fine in EDH in my opinion, where the 3 damage doesn't hurt as much and you need more land variety due to the singleton rule. And if we combine the two ideas - a mostly colorless EDH deck e.g. Sharuum - well then, we have a winner!
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Unless you're going to need this land only a very view times, i advise playing City of Bráss instead.
And if you're even going to need that mana of any color only a single time, use Tendo Ice Bridge instead.
Or you could, although likely not with sensible results, try to redirect the damage by using cards like Harm's Way, Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo, Pariah, or similar choices...
What about Tamanoa? Yes, you gain the life back, but unless you're playing a niche deck with lifegain triggers such as Ageless Entity and Well of lost Dreams, it really doesn't matter as you're right back where you started! For those kinds of decks (which I have btw) I would rather use the painlands from 10th Ed since they essentially do the same thing but with less risk/pain before you get Tamanoa out.
No, this card is very much useless except in the most niche decks. Like my EDH Darien, King of Kjeldor deck :D
People are comparing this to City of Brass, which is fine. Overall Brass is more efficient if you're not trying to kill yourself as fast for colored mana.
However, keep in mind that at the worst case scenario other than outright killing yourself, you can still tap this for 1 colorless, and this land doesn't enter the battlefield tapped.
All of that aside, players have to recognize this land as a combo land. Obviously you're not going to play this over City of Brass for straight up color use. This is the only land that will give you optional painfree mana when you don't want to hurt yourself, yet can deal 3 damage to you when you WANT it to. Yes Tamanoa works okay if you combo in lifegain triggers, but currently as mentioned previously it's all about Darien, King of Kjeldor.
No other land will easily deal 3 damage to yourself while giving yourself any color mana. That's 3 1/1 soldier tokens at instant speed, and if you combo in either Essence Warden, Soul Warden, and/or Soul's Attendant you can get even more life back than you lost.
This land is best at what it can do, it shouldn't be rated so badly just cause it has specialized use. This is a combo land, nothing more. Heck, the Grand Coliseum variant of this that enters the battlefield tapped, that is even worse if you compare it to City of Brass. This land deserves at least higher than a 2, it fills a useful niche that no other land achieves.
LOL...
It's also fine in EDH in my opinion, where the 3 damage doesn't hurt as much and you need more land variety due to the singleton rule. And if we combine the two ideas - a mostly colorless EDH deck e.g. Sharuum - well then, we have a winner!