Other than the original dual lands, one of the best duals of all time. Plus, it makes you popular!
syrazemyla
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(4 votes)
@Atali: River of Tears wasn't in a number of tournament-winning Extended decks.
j_mindfingerpainter
★★★☆☆ (3.9/5.0)(4 votes)
@ DarthParallax: Maybe because if you're plaing mono-red, you have to wait 7 turns just for Valakut to DO SOMETHING. And if you're not playing mono-red, good luck getting 5 mountains without shocklands or broken dual lands.
@ syrazemlya: Don't forget that River of Tears also wasn't in tournament-winning Modern decks.
Doaj
★★★★☆ (4.5/5.0)(3 votes)
I really preferred the original art, but it was a decent choice to reprint.
@syrazemyla: I realize that, but their choices do not always include cards that were well represented in tournament play, and many famous, competitive cards do not make the cut. Also, the fact that Grove of the Burnwillows is in decks that I do not play has no effect on my preference of River of Tears among the Future Sight lands.
General_Naga
★★★★☆ (4.0/5.0)(2 votes)
Against most RG decks, the lifegain is negligible. Excellent dual land.
DarthParallax
★★☆☆☆ (2.9/5.0)(5 votes)
Still not sure if I really think this card is any more or less 'Mythic' than Valakut-- I don't deny it's playability, but this one of the cards I'd definitely say is 'arguable' about whether it belongs actually in the set- but certainly it did belong in the Nomination Round, and I guess Wizards voted for this more than for Valakut...
@j_mindfingerpainter: Everything you say is true. I don't disagree with your premise- I disagree with your conclusion that that is what makes something Mythic or not. The difference between a Rare and a Mythic is not one that Spike can see (if the cards are being made properly). It's one you need to ask a Vorthos on. From the Vault is the only other Thing about MTG that *guarantees* you the Mythic Expansion symbol except for Planeswalker card type or Duel Decks Posterboy/girl. That means that cards need to be chosen not just on "What plays good/What wins games" but also on "What can we give kick ass art to/What is just awesome/What would play whether it was good or not because it's just so loveable" In short: What Do You Want. There can be *no* such thing as a Crap Vault Card. Nothing in the Vault is Filler. (Even Desert, although that was playing chicken on the train tracks :3)
Now- granted the Vault has gotten a pedigree of being fairly Spikey compared to everything else Magic does, even new Planeswalkers- but that shouldn't dominate it. I did say that I thought it would come down to this or Valakut for the 'cool Red land'. So Wizards voted for Spike over Vorthos THIS time. But that doesn't mean they have to, or should, or will, every time. ;)
Ideatog
★★★☆☆ (3.5/5.0)(2 votes)
What was wrong with the old art!? The new art is good too, which is a surprise seeing as most of the new art is canned photoshop trash, but I don't see why this needed new art more than Vesuva or Windbrisk Heights.
TheWrathofShane
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(2 votes)
If there was no punishing fire, this thing wouldn't be in this set. So why not put punishing fire as the mythic rare?
BongRipper420
★★★★☆ (4.7/5.0)(3 votes)
Wow. I'm really impressed by the artwork here. Glad they reprinted it for FTV.
Continue
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0)(2 votes)
So this card's origin that Future Sight peered into was a From the Vault set? Interesting.
orisiti
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
As much as I like the new art, I agree that other vault lands would have been more deserving. This would have looked drastically different than the orgiginal just because of the standard border. I also half suspect that this was chosen to please the many, many players who liked the original card, but were dismayed by the horrendous r/g Future sight border, In much the same way that they showcased simplicity on the new dryad arbor
Nagoragama
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This reprint's art is just gorgeous.
sweetgab
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Even without Punishing Fire (it's banned in Modern), this is almost Taiga in a deck that say, wins the game through an infinite combo. Red and green are already the most aggro of colors - if there were a U/B or U/W version they would have been even more like the original Alpha duals (minus the fetching capacities).
HotHit
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Burnwillows vs Zhur-Taa Druid! It's a race for the ages, WHO WILL WIN?!
itsandycapp
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
interesting, but somehow the flavor alludes me
blurrymadness
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Finally shelled out for these suckers. A non-blue staple in Legacy and Modern; though for very different reasons.
Both arts are quite beautiful; it's a bit sad the powerhouse Punishing Fire becomes off of the back of this; but eating creatures and Planeswalkers alike (while being a grindy win con) is a thing.
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Plus, it makes you popular!
@ syrazemlya: Don't forget that River of Tears also wasn't in tournament-winning Modern decks.
@syrazemyla: I realize that, but their choices do not always include cards that were well represented in tournament play, and many famous, competitive cards do not make the cut.
Also, the fact that Grove of the Burnwillows is in decks that I do not play has no effect on my preference of River of Tears among the Future Sight lands.
@j_mindfingerpainter: Everything you say is true. I don't disagree with your premise- I disagree with your conclusion that that is what makes something Mythic or not. The difference between a Rare and a Mythic is not one that Spike can see (if the cards are being made properly). It's one you need to ask a Vorthos on. From the Vault is the only other Thing about MTG that *guarantees* you the Mythic Expansion symbol except for Planeswalker card type or Duel Decks Posterboy/girl. That means that cards need to be chosen not just on "What plays good/What wins games" but also on "What can we give kick ass art to/What is just awesome/What would play whether it was good or not because it's just so loveable" In short: What Do You Want. There can be *no* such thing as a Crap Vault Card. Nothing in the Vault is Filler. (Even Desert, although that was playing chicken on the train tracks :3)
Now- granted the Vault has gotten a pedigree of being fairly Spikey compared to everything else Magic does, even new Planeswalkers- but that shouldn't dominate it. I did say that I thought it would come down to this or Valakut for the 'cool Red land'. So Wizards voted for Spike over Vorthos THIS time. But that doesn't mean they have to, or should, or will, every time. ;)
Both arts are quite beautiful; it's a bit sad the powerhouse Punishing Fire becomes off of the back of this; but eating creatures and Planeswalkers alike (while being a grindy win con) is a thing.