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think of it as R +2+0 and he doesnt look that bad.

Actually, it seems pretty good to me. Wombo combo with goblin tunneler.

Reminds me of Char-Rumbler

i like this guy. Reminds me of an Orbitiz commercial. Orbitiz gives u that just brushed clean feeling.

Extremely strange to see an Ogre with 0 base power. You'd think that with his massive fists made out of metal he could do some damage before firebreathing.

Someone didn't brush his teeth this morning...

I really like this guy- non-boltable inflatable infect. Now only if red had other infect support.

Personally I like him, used 2 in the pre-release in RG aggro

I find it funny that he's one of the few cards with a fire breathing ability who's actually breathing fire.


I'm glad it isn't one of those inappropriate +1/-1 things.

I understand the 0 power.
His fists have welded themselves solid, so he can no longer move them. Thus, he can only breathe to hurt anyone. And his breath is so powerfully disgusting, it poisons whatever smells it.

I personally give this guy 4 stars. Of course, I love firebreathing, it's in my top few favorite abilities.

Well, that explains Geosurge...

djflo: that's a good point. I guess the idea is that in the new order of phyrexia he doesn't want to swing those fists. His /purpose/ is to breathe infectious smog on the incompleat and so that's what he does.

Also I could be wrong but it kinda seems to me like A) his fists are turned to ash or very fragile stone, rendering them useless and B) He is strapped down to avoid him moving around.

Hes fun in a casual RDWs or something ...Play him with Goblin Tunneler (a GREATLY overlooked card in my oppinion) and a few mana ...He does a few poison counters EVERY turn unless your opponent kills goblin tunnler or him ,something only Black and Red are adept at ( white and green have a FEW ways to kill them ,sure , but not that many .

Here are the cards and situations to watch out for :

Removal : ( Black ,mostly)
Doomblade
Go for the throat
victem of night
and a mirad of other crazy black cards

red can really only deal with the tunneler at this point but a few cards can kill him ,though at least he was a lightning rod for removal ....

White could
O-ring him
pascify him


Green

ambush viper


Blue : counter him with their instants

He could work as a side deck guy .

Oh and you could give him flying with an artifact for 1 or give him flyng and hexproof ,he's worth it .

Normally I'm not a huge fan of the Phyrexian cards, but this guy is pretty cool.

It looks just like our friend Josh.

works well with Tricks of the trade

He's a creature with 0 power who is a must block. That alone deserves respect.

I've always liked firebreathing, and this guy pushes it. I'll just mention a few of my personal favorites when it comes to pushing him through:
Goblin Tunneler
Artful Dodge
Bladed Pinions
Just wish there was more {R} infect support.

This guy and Char-Rumbler actually gave me an idea.


Creature — Dragon
Flying, double strike, infect
: ~ gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
-2/4

6 mana until you can actually do something with it, but all you need to do is connect with 5 power.

It's weird that a compleat ogre would be unable to use it's fists. I mean, shouldn't it be able to hit crush people AND breath fire? Wouldn't that be more practical?