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Kjeldoran War Cry

Multiverse ID: 121148

Kjeldoran War Cry

Comments (13)

Forgeling
★★★★☆ (4.9/5.0) (7 votes)
Strictly better than Glorious Charge.
DaaNz
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0) (1 vote)
nah m8
Tommy9898
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0) (6 votes)
I want to agree that it is better, but I can't say strictly because if your opponent is using them than the ones in your graveyard could be used against you. But that is unlikely of course but that's what you get when you start talking theoretically.
Buderus
★★★☆☆ (3.3/5.0) (5 votes)
what a lame argument saying that in theory this card isn't strictly better than Glorious Charge. IF your Opponent plays the same Spell you both have the same Advantage or disadvantage of this card.
Furthermore, when you compare the situations where this card is worse with the one's it is better, then you must say it's strictly better than Glorious Charge...


*This card isn't "strictly" better, if you only play it 1x in your Deck...* XD and so on...
izzet_guild_mage
★★★☆☆ (3.3/5.0) (3 votes)
Interestingly, the existence of Mindslaver means almost no card in all of Magic can be said to be strictly better than any other...still, Tommy presents the situation in which this, can, in fact, be worse than Glorious Charge.
Edit: Buderus, I suppose it's worth saying this: if anyone ever contests "strictly better", they're probably just testing their card knowledge by seeing if they can thing of any combination of cards that set up a very specific, very narrow scenario.We're just digging in the sandbox, no need to pay it much heed :)
Kryptnyt
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (3 votes)
Pauper Overrun effects are made of win!
MuffinMafia
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0) (1 vote)
I play one Kjeldoran War cry and 4 Glorious Charge in my deck. I dunno what you guys are talking about.

LordRandomness
★★☆☆☆ (2.8/5.0) (2 votes)
Forgeling: Nope. Opponent might be able to use "destroy target creature with power X or greater" effects on you. Or worse, Quickened Solar Tide because of the extra boost! Or maybe you want to run with Ensnaring Bridge and need to keep your attackers at a certain power level...

Thus continues my quest to prove that nothing is actually strictly better than anything.
DarthParallax
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
If you were wondering what the Kjeldoran War Cry IS, I think I've found it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=401BrTPRUwk&feature=related

Death!

Death!

Death!

DEATH!!!!!!!!
Kirbster
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Who knew war cries involved so much algebra?
Gandlodder
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@Kirbster: You think this is bad? You should see Pythagoras' Non-Euclidian War Cry coming up in Born of the Gods. That one is a head-scratcher for sure, and be sure to take your trigonometry notes to the prerelease.
Trygon_Predator
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
@ LordRandomness: if you had to set up a narrow, situational scenario involving extra cards, then it's still strictly better. Ignoring special cases, this card provides the option of more pump if you have extra copies, and if not you still get a Glorious Charge with no drawbacks. Hence, it is strictly better.
Phelplan
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Isn't this card a tricky little thing? At what point does it actually enter the graveyard? If you cast it before combat even starts, you will get +2/+2 even without having cast another one because the effect lasts until the end of the turn and once the main phase passes the effect will linger on and this card will be in the graveyard to grant the extra +1/+1. It even works as cast after blockers are declared to grant +2/+2 to everything because once that phase passes the effect will linger on and this will be in the graveyard before damage is dealt.
I can think of no situation where this card shouldn't grant at least +2/+2 until end of turn. Solid 5/5 unless they have errataad it to make it weaker.