So in short it reads: "Remove a good chunk of your library from the game, and put a bunch of 1/1 tokens into play."
I personally think that six mana is too much. Many cards with roughl that cmc create a ton of tokens as well (like One dozen eyes), without the randomness. If the tokens would have haste or this card would be an instant, then maybe... but like this? Unless you have a deck that cares a lot for warriors (like a Lovisa Coldeyes deck), I'd not play this.
Sinbadthepirate
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(3 votes)
solid after in the web of war
Arachibutyrophobia
★★☆☆☆ (2.1/5.0)(4 votes)
Look, it says "1/1 red warrior" not human warrior!
holgir
★☆☆☆☆ (1.4/5.0)(5 votes)
A sad crap rare.
Johnny could play Endless Horizons just with Plains in his deck and support the with a Boros Signet or something.
Still a sad crap rare.
Shikadi
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.5/5.0)(1 vote)
what if you play this with no lands in your deck? like charbelcher for 1 less mana if you give them haste.
HuntingDrake
★★★★☆ (4.2/5.0)(6 votes)
(assuming i'm doing this right...)
with an infinite library composed of 3:1 spells:land, this should repeat on average 1+(3/1) = 4 times, for 12 cards, 3/4 of which should be nonland, for an expected 9 tokens.
with an infinite library composed of 2:1 spells:land, this should repeat on average 1+(2/1) = 3 times, for 9 cards, 2/3 of which should be nonland, for an expected 6 tokens.
with an infinite library composed of 3:2 spells:land, this should repeat on average 1+(3/2) = 2.5 times, for 7.5 cards, 3/5 of which should be nonland, for an expected 4.5 tokens.
with an infinite library composed of 1:1 spells:land, this should repeat on average 1+(1/1) = 2 times, for 6 cards, 1/2 of which should be nonland, for an expected 3 tokens.
in general, (expected) tokens (with an infinite library) = 3 * % spells / % lands of course, real libraries aren't infinite, so the risk of decking yourself starts to become very real...
lol, once in my Lovisa Coldeyes EDH deck, i've once put 40 of these guys on the battlefield. so, 40 3/3 haste in your face... one-shoted 3 players, since i had a Bedlam on the battlefield...
endersblade
★★☆☆☆ (2.4/5.0)(5 votes)
@shikadi: You'd deck yourself. The card's ability would continually cause you to remove the top three cards of your library from the game. Once you remove the last card, and attempt to remove another, you'd lose.
I actually did something silly with this in a R/G/W deck. I ran all plains, and a Dryad Arbor. I cast Worldly Tutor fetching the Arbor and putting it into play. I then cast Hallowed burial, putting said Arbor onto the bottom of my library. Then I cast Endless Horizons, removing all of my lands from my library, leaving the Arbor on the bottom, then using a Boros Signet, I cast Fervor. Next turn I cast this, dropping 41 1/1s with haste.
Stupid hard to pull off? Definitely. Funny as hell? Definitely. Would I even ATTEMPT it in a serious game? HELL no. The only reason I did this was because someone said it couldn't be done. I've since dismantled the deck, now that I finally got that off. It was one of those 'perfect' games: my opponent was mostly topdecking lands, so he was pulling out slowly, and I managed to draw into everything I needed. Many a high-five was shared that day.
Szentekkel
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(2 votes)
I've put together a deck with this and lots of accel just to get some fun last time i used it I almost decked myself leaving 4 cards on my deck and putting 45 tokens that was amazing!!
A3Kitsune
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
New Oracle wording.... because this card doesn't really work with the wording as printed. The fact that it took until today for this to be fixed suggests to me that no-one outside WotC realised this without it being pointed out.
Purple_Shrimp
★★☆☆☆ (2.0/5.0)(3 votes)
nice wording dweebs
NeoKoda
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Can't deck yourself with this card, technically. You only get decked when you try to DRAW from an empty library. Nothing happens when you try to exile from one. Although, without haste, it doesn't matter a whole lot.
Axelle
★★★★★ (5.0/5.0)(3 votes)
"Exile the top card of your library. Exile the top card of your library. Exile the top card of your library."
I lol'd.
Kirbster
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
Yeah, the new Oracle text is just unpleasant to look at.
@endersblade- "@shikadi: You'd deck yourself. The card's ability would continually cause you to remove the top three cards of your library from the game. Once you remove the last card, and attempt to remove another, you'd lose."
I would like to just point out that this is not entirely accurate. Since this spell exiles the cards, and does not draw them, you would not lose for having no cards in the library. This spell would exile the whole library putting lots of dudes into play, and if you could give them haste, you very well may win. Now if something causes you to actually DRAW a card before you win, then yes, you would lose.
Secondly, your combo of putting Dryad Arbor on the bottom, and THEN playing Endless Horizons does not work since after searching your library you shuffle it, as clearly written on Endless Horizons itself. If you play horizons first, and THEN put the arbor on the bottom, you would be fine.
Lastly, they templated it with 3 seperate exiles most likley to keep people honest about which card was the last one exiled. Strange, yes, but works as originally intended.
JunkHarvester
☆☆☆☆☆ (0.0/5.0)
This could possibly do something cool, but I'd rather read Voltaire's Candide again before I read this.
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"Remove a good chunk of your library from the game, and put a bunch of 1/1 tokens into play."
I personally think that six mana is too much. Many cards with roughl that cmc create a ton of tokens as well (like One dozen eyes), without the randomness. If the tokens would have haste or this card would be an instant, then maybe... but like this? Unless you have a deck that cares a lot for warriors (like a Lovisa Coldeyes deck), I'd not play this.
Johnny could play Endless Horizons just with Plains in his deck and support the
Still a sad crap rare.
with an infinite library composed of 3:1 spells:land, this should repeat on average 1+(3/1) = 4 times, for 12 cards, 3/4 of which should be nonland, for an expected 9 tokens.
with an infinite library composed of 2:1 spells:land, this should repeat on average 1+(2/1) = 3 times, for 9 cards, 2/3 of which should be nonland, for an expected 6 tokens.
with an infinite library composed of 3:2 spells:land, this should repeat on average 1+(3/2) = 2.5 times, for 7.5 cards, 3/5 of which should be nonland, for an expected 4.5 tokens.
with an infinite library composed of 1:1 spells:land, this should repeat on average 1+(1/1) = 2 times, for 6 cards, 1/2 of which should be nonland, for an expected 3 tokens.
in general, (expected) tokens (with an infinite library) = 3 * % spells / % lands
of course, real libraries aren't infinite, so the risk of decking yourself starts to become very real...
I actually did something silly with this in a R/G/W deck. I ran all plains, and a Dryad Arbor. I cast Worldly Tutor fetching the Arbor and putting it into play. I then cast Hallowed burial, putting said Arbor onto the bottom of my library. Then I cast Endless Horizons, removing all of my lands from my library, leaving the Arbor on the bottom, then using a Boros Signet, I cast Fervor. Next turn I cast this, dropping 41 1/1s with haste.
Stupid hard to pull off? Definitely. Funny as hell? Definitely. Would I even ATTEMPT it in a serious game? HELL no. The only reason I did this was because someone said it couldn't be done. I've since dismantled the deck, now that I finally got that off. It was one of those 'perfect' games: my opponent was mostly topdecking lands, so he was pulling out slowly, and I managed to draw into everything I needed. Many a high-five was shared that day.
I lol'd.
I would like to just point out that this is not entirely accurate. Since this spell exiles the cards, and does not draw them, you would not lose for having no cards in the library. This spell would exile the whole library putting lots of dudes into play, and if you could give them haste, you very well may win. Now if something causes you to actually DRAW a card before you win, then yes, you would lose.
Secondly, your combo of putting Dryad Arbor on the bottom, and THEN playing Endless Horizons does not work since after searching your library you shuffle it, as clearly written on Endless Horizons itself. If you play horizons first, and THEN put the arbor on the bottom, you would be fine.
Lastly, they templated it with 3 seperate exiles most likley to keep people honest about which card was the last one exiled. Strange, yes, but works as originally intended.